Brexit

The 4 million EU citizens who moved to the UK are not returning home most want to stay and more continue to come while they can, so much for the wonderful opportunities in the EU .

I would hope all the pro-EU followers would relocate to mainland Europe, soon.
 
Barrel said:
The 4 million EU citizens who moved to the UK are not returning home most want to stay and more continue to come while they can, so much for the wonderful opportunities in the EU .

I would hope all the pro-EU followers would relocate to mainland Europe, soon.
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Already got my Irish passport 👍🏻
 
On the fishing rights, it's a real shame we didn't have someone sitting on the EU fisheries committee, fighting tooth and nail for British rights....
 
Greenland fought the EU over its fishing rights to be told you have to share your fishing grounds or else that's why they left .

The EU dictates it never listens because 27 countries never agree on anything they are bullied by Germany and France with threats of withdrawing funding which was infact a great deal of our money .
 
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For those interested we trade more outside of the EU than in it, also we import £67million less than we export. its not the fish that we lose but the side benefits of the processing plants that in Germany and France who sell our own fish back to us. I think this discussion can only be continued 5 years from now when hindsight says Brexit was good or bad?
 
Running Fox said:
For those interested we trade more outside of the EU than in it, also we import £67million less than we export. its not the fish that we lose but the side benefits of the processing plants that in Germany and France who sell our own fish back to us. I think this discussion can only be continued 5 years from now when hindsight says Brexit was good or bad?
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Good one. Shame we can't tag this and revisit in five years 👍🏻
 
We had 45 years to get any benefits from the EU, they never appeared apart from the slum landlords coining it by bring back slum housing packed to the roof with immigrants.
 
Watch the TV program "Slum Landlords bad tenants " it's a disgrace that upto EU 40 immigrants are living in 4 bedroom houses being exploted by asian landlords .This country has gone backwards in every way possible.
 
Barrel said:
Watch the TV program "Slum Landlords bad tenants " it's a disgrace that upto EU 40 immigrants are living in 4 bedroom houses being exploted by asian landlords .This country has gone backwards in every way possible.
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Come on barrel, not just Asian landlords but I do get where you're coming from.
 
Watching the program all the landlords were either Indian or from the far east and none of them were prosecuted because the powers that be are happy to let them carry on with a slap on the wrist.

Rents in the UK are the highest in Europe that's what the freedom of movement had achieved.
 
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Watching the program all the landlords were either Indian or from the far east and none of them were prosecuted because the powers that be are happy to let them carry on with a slap on the wrist.

Rents in the UK are the highest in Europe that's what the freedom of movement had achieved.
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No doubt rents are a disgrace.
 
Barrel said:
Watching the program all the landlords were either Indian or from the far east and none of them were prosecuted because the powers that be are happy to let them carry on with a slap on the wrist.

Rents in the UK are the highest in Europe that's what the freedom of movement had achieved.
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Was immigration an influence on you voting for Brexit by any chance?
 
I voted to join the Common Market because I thought it would drive the economy forward, the real poverty it has bought gives me nothing but a bad taste in my mouth.
Runing a country on cheap unskilled labour that have no real future has destroyed all we achieved in equality for all.
 
Barrel said:
I voted to join the Common Market because I thought it would drive the economy forward, the real poverty it has bought gives me nothing but a bad taste in my mouth.
Runing a country on cheap unskilled labour that have no real future has destroyed all we achieved in equality for all.
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Fair play to ya, however, I know many immigrants who are no more English than you or me. Who defend everything British with a passion. It's sort of potatoe potato
 
Barrel said:
I voted to join the Common Market because I thought it would drive the economy forward, the real poverty it has bought gives me nothing but a bad taste in my mouth.
Runing a country on cheap unskilled labour that have no real future has destroyed all we achieved in equality for all.
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Everyone wants everything cheap, so how else can you get it cheap. Do you want to pay more for your fruit and veg? Not that the indigenous population want to do that kind of work. Pay better wages prices go up so imports undercut locally produced goods.
 
My son was lucky enough to go university when there was no fees and before we joined the EU it was easy to get social housing now 4 million are on a waiting list with 3.5 million council homes all full.
Wages to housing cost is way out of affordability, unskilled labour will be unable to find work because of automation yet we are unprepared for new technologies.
The UK just keeps getting more real poverty.
Scandinavia keeps wages high and people have a higher standard of living , strange that.
 
Yeah the boomers had it all, free uni places, full grants to piss up the wall, final salary pensions, affordable housing etc. but you need to look beyond immigration for the blame. Maggie introduced council house sell-offs. what better way to control the working man than give him a mortgage. Who's gonna strike then? They made it illegal for councils to put the money from the sales into building new stock. You're being fed the immigrant line and buying it. We've discussed this on another thread but there's plenty of money to go round in this country, you need to look up not down and question where it's all going.
 
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Everyone wants everything cheap, so how else can you get it cheap. Do you want to pay more for your fruit and veg? Not that the indigenous population want to do that kind of work. Pay better wages prices go up so imports undercut locally produced goods.
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The myth that British workers wont do the menial work is just that. Its bollocks.
 
Capitalism works on supply and demand, to much cheap labour and it reflects in the wages paid , Thatcher was in power eight years after we joined the common market that gave us three major reccesions in those eight years on which she gained power on.

I see real poverty now and it's down to the countries inability to cope with the present population in every way, our national debt is unbelievable high .
 
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Capitalism works on supply and demand, to much cheap labour and it reflects in the wages paid , Thatcher was in power eight years after we joined the common market that gave us three major reccesions in those eight years on which she gained power on.

I see real poverty now and it's down to the countries inability to cope with the present population in every way, our national debt is unbelievable high .
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You're perfect Tory fodder. Job done for you.
 
We are all fodder because we just accepted the lies about freedom of movement and low wage rises over the last 40 years .
 
Sorry update, We now import £90 billion more than we export to the EU. over the last 4 years business has prepared for Brexit it would appear. figures given out today.
 
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My son was lucky enough to go university when there was no fees and before we joined the EU it was easy to get social housing now 4 million are on a waiting list with 3.5 million council homes all full.
Wages to housing cost is way out of affordability, unskilled labour will be unable to find work because of automation yet we are unprepared for new technologies.
The UK just keeps getting more real poverty.
Scandinavia keeps wages high and people have a higher standard of living , strange that.
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This is what I find strange about these discussions, on either side. I think there are good arguments in favour of leaving the EU, some (not all) being intellectually coherent and empirically-based (and even if they are not then people are obviously entitled to their views). But why muddy the waters with irrelevant issues? Neither social housing nor university fees have to do with being in the EU, or not. (And fwiw my guess is that university fees are generally lower across the EU countries than here; I wouldn't be surprised if there is greater provision of social housing there too.)
 
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