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Tuz_Not_Tuzz
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bought for 40 million, sold for nothing.
that is some bullshit contract management from the hierarchy and the player right there.
2 years of negotiations that result in him leaving for nothing.
that is some bullshit contract management from the hierarchy and the player right there.
2 years of negotiations that result in him leaving for nothing.
David_Nish
Roofer
And a goodbye announcement that fails to mention our relegation. Cnut.
You need to give your head a wobble.
He'll be perfectly happy with his "contract management" when he sees his new monthly salary, reflecting the absence of a transfer fee.
The only thing he may be disappointed with is the continuing absence of CL football.
buz_not_buzz
Occasional Poster
As long as he avoided serious injury when getting close to the end of the contract it's cracking work by the player & his representatives. Will forego the otherwise obligatory "loyalty bonus" when moving but he & his reps will get a bumper pay day in signing on fees from his new employers & no negotiating with a selling club to worry about. And to be fair to the club I am not sure what more they can do if a player doesn't want to sign. I suspect his wages will not be much better anywhere else. The only leverage they really had was in the run up to the World Cup and dropping him unless he signed and they dare not do it.
I have been clear that I admired him and I think he is one of the true quality players we have had (especially for the first 2 and a half seasons) but the decent performances have got fewer and further between & it has always been hard to escape the impression (especially taking into account the Monaco situation) that he is someone who needs to be settled to perform. The thing that pisses me off is that it feels like the uncertainty was created by himself until it gets to the point when he is clear in his own mind he is going but he doesn't know where to or that anyone will want him if he gets crocked.
newboldfox
Roofer
We should have listed him from 2 years out. The threat of not playing from that distance would be too great to ignore.
Trouble is we'd still need someone to make a bid for him,it's been common knowledge that he was available for a knock down price for quite some time but despite all the rumours no offers, it's easy to say sell him but if nobody wants him and he won't sign a new contract what can you do?
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Tuz_Not_Tuzz
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i think you might be misreading what i've written (or i've written it poorly which is quite probable).
The bullshit refers both to him holding out and the club not managing to breach the divide despite having 2 years.
I think he's been a little shit like mahrez, the only difference is teilemans went on strike in plain view of the fans when on the pitch.
hackneyfox
Roofer
Well he’s a legend as far as I’m concerned, we won the FA Cup thanks to him and for that I’ll be eternally grateful.
Like most he’s been poor t hi s year but he clearly loved the club.
Thanks Youri
Like most he’s been poor t hi s year but he clearly loved the club.
Thanks Youri
newboldfox
Roofer
2 years out I think there would have been bids. In the last year interested parties will be encouraged by agents to wait.
hackneyfox
Roofer
There may have been teams make offers but perhaps he didn’t want to join them. Didn’t he say something along the lines of ‘being happy I’ve decided to stay for the season’.
DagenhamFox
Blue Roofer
2 years out we’d just won the FA Cup. We should have hauled him in then with an improved contract and if he didn’t sign it place him on the transfer list.
We chose then not to sell a player to try and drive the team forwards and look how that backfired, he was at the peak if his worth right then.
We chose then not to sell a player to try and drive the team forwards and look how that backfired, he was at the peak if his worth right then.
blackthorn8
Roofer
Dont think he loved the club that much Hackney or else his latter displays would have seen more commitment than was actually offered, damn good player but lost a lot of goodwill in his last Season with indifferent displays
Brusselsfox
Roofer
This board doesn’t really do nuance, but I think any attempt at the the Youri Tielemans and Leicester City story requires a bucketful of ‘on the other hand’. He was (and is) a very talented player, one of the best passers we have had in 20 or 30 years. He was one of the main reasons we finished 5th twice and won the cup. On the other hand his performances have declined a lot in the last 18 months and have sometimes been very poor indeed. He has done absolutely nothing wrong in the contract negotiations, he was clearly not obliged to sign an extension or accept a move to another club. On the other hand that stance did a lot of damage to the club, it was the starting point of the terrible transfer window last summer and created a very negative atmosphere. So … someone who did a lot of good for the club but who leaves with a compromised reputation.
snootyfox
Roofer
Remembered as another cog in the mechanics of destruction of Leicester City
Did nothing last six months other than return the ball to his full back and stay away from crossing the halfway line as much as possible.
Yes, poisoned by Rodgers but did nothing last few weeks to help the club that pays his wages get out of trouble.
I’d previously defended him but his recent inactions make him culpable
Did nothing last six months other than return the ball to his full back and stay away from crossing the halfway line as much as possible.
Yes, poisoned by Rodgers but did nothing last few weeks to help the club that pays his wages get out of trouble.
I’d previously defended him but his recent inactions make him culpable
swabianfox
Rare Continental Breed
I think he was both culprit and victim in this situation.
You could argue it's not his fault that Rodgers downed tools and that seemingly nobody undertook any steps to rectify the appalling situation regarding squad planning and contracts. In hindsight, it would clearly have been wiser to play hardball with him but hindsight is a great thing, isn't it?
On the other hand, it's clear his performances have dropped, and as one of our best players he probably could have done more to pull us out of this mess. On the contrary, you could also argue his delaying and underperformance affected other players, too, and contributed to our downfall.
Under Pearson, players seemed to have got together and tried to find ways themselves to pull us out. That's how good the team was then. That spirit has long gone, and that lack of commitment and leadership has cost us.
I'm curious where he ends up. He's still only 26 and should have a few good years left in him.
You could argue it's not his fault that Rodgers downed tools and that seemingly nobody undertook any steps to rectify the appalling situation regarding squad planning and contracts. In hindsight, it would clearly have been wiser to play hardball with him but hindsight is a great thing, isn't it?
On the other hand, it's clear his performances have dropped, and as one of our best players he probably could have done more to pull us out of this mess. On the contrary, you could also argue his delaying and underperformance affected other players, too, and contributed to our downfall.
Under Pearson, players seemed to have got together and tried to find ways themselves to pull us out. That's how good the team was then. That spirit has long gone, and that lack of commitment and leadership has cost us.
I'm curious where he ends up. He's still only 26 and should have a few good years left in him.
blackthorn8
Roofer
The efforts that Cambiasso put in whilst on the pitch gives you the insight of how poor Teilemans efforts were given the talents the lad possessed.
Teilemans should look at Estabans enthusiasm for the games he played here short as it was but a World Star of standing
I am grateful for "that goal" but it was obvious when he started pissing about after that season he'd never sign a new deal but the cxnt rodgers kept playing him, is it any wonder that maddison and others thought they'd give it a go as well? There's where the rot really set in, no discipline leads to people taking the piss and we can all see where that gets us
Oadlad
Roofer
You have to play your best player as he is on top money and paid to do that.
And a 75% YT is better than many even in the Prem.
To suggest that his shortcomings led to a whole team losing its will to win is not fair.
I think he lost faith in the team and club as did many others and no wonder.
This mental/attitude issue is what managers are supposed to be for and BR's poor handling
for the same reason was the root cause.
And a 75% YT is better than many even in the Prem.
To suggest that his shortcomings led to a whole team losing its will to win is not fair.
I think he lost faith in the team and club as did many others and no wonder.
This mental/attitude issue is what managers are supposed to be for and BR's poor handling
for the same reason was the root cause.
blackthorn8
Roofer
But surely Oadlad your Mental attitudes depend on your goodself he played as though he had a poor attitude to football
Admitting to himself he wasnt up to the challenge of keeping a team ethic working
By allowing his standards of play to fall dramatically that to me smacks of "poor me"
I cant do it on my own
Look at KANE a one man show at Spurs his attitude is entirely the opposite keeping his
side on the go when all is falling around him
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Tuz_Not_Tuzz
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He turned up once a month, that is simply unacceptable for an elite player in any top league.
Rarely did he and Maddison both turn it on in the same game, and is another reason along with the complete disintegration of ndidi (and rodgers inability to fix any of it) as to why our midfield was so poor.