The morning after the shite before.

Brauny

Brauny

The optimistic pessimist
Usually nearly 24 hours after a shit show I've calmed down enough to allow a bit more logic to filter through.
Not this time, I'm personally seething at yesterday's shambles.
You can point to 2 or 3 big opportunities squandered, but it wasn't that for me it was our whole approach to the game.
Within the first 15 mins we had conceded about 8 (4 on target) attempts on goal against 2 (0 on target) of our own.
This wasn't the first time we have allowed an opponent to take a strong foothold in the game. We rarely go and show why we are at the top end of the table. Why can't they start in an aggressive fashion and put down a marker that's saying to an opponent ' you boys ain't gonna live with us '
My initial thoughts are that there is a lack of tempo from us from the start and we allow teams to find their feet far too easily.
That 1st half was absolutely rubbish from a team at the top end.
We didn't have hardly any great control of the game, our lack of pace one again in defence exposed us to conceding some dangerous moments and potential penalties.
By half time it needed a Jock Wallace style little chat and an immediate and visible reaction to another poor first half. What we got was the latest addition to the Carry on films........Carry on being lethargic.
15 mins into the 2nd half, no changes to the tactics, formation or personal, just carry on.
The head honcho declared afterwards about being pleased with the numerous chances we had created, he was less vocal about the fact that statistically the opponent created more.
The Bristol manager didn't rest on his laurels, with numerous new additions introduced, whilst our Messiah just arrogantly thought that nothing was wrong and our walking football would prevail.
Then the inevitable concession, even if you argued they didn't deserve it, the way things are going for us it wasn't anything you didn't expect.
The pundits pointed out we had £90M sitting on the bench but it still took mastermind until the 75th minute to react.
After that ? Nothing really, no big reaction, no Alamo, just a feeble and disappointing end to a crucial game at a crucial time of the season.
No wonder the fans gave it them big time, had I have been there I would have joined the chorus of disapproval.

So on to Monday and Norwich.
Quite frankly I have no faith that the rot stops here.
This brand of football is not going to win the fans back, they'll only do that by having a right good go ( no walking football)
Only if they walk off the pitch with the fans knowing they gave it absolutely everything, will they escape the full wrath of the fans.

I can't see it happening though, this boss thinks he's something special, he's to stubborn and mardy to accept things ain't right and to change it.
 
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The majority of Leicester fans will accept any old shite.

They clapped off the losers that got us relegated last season.

Another missed sitter, “He comes
From Zambia”, another simple 5 yard through ball ballooned out for a goal kick, “and after all, you’re my…”, another failure to take on a rank rotten full back, “Enzo went to Europe” or “Leicester’s going straight back up”.

Jimmy Willis got the treatment, Martin O’Neill took his medicine the support has never dared since.
 
I've not been critical of Enzo until yesterday....yes we've had no Ricardo but hamza should be nowhere near this squad (also justin another donkey)...I also remember a report where allegedly the Belgium manager said if wout wants international football then he'll need to move which was fine by me as he's incredibly overrated....not getting sensi in was a blow but the admin team at leicester are experts in fucking things up.
Monday I hope coady is in as we need leadership and grit...I'd also chuck albrighton in as mavadiddi looks lost at the moment....the other problem is the midfield...no general in there in the mould of parker or mcallister..a ball player who can pick the passes through the opposition defence.....cannon being out doesn't help as I think he's got something.....the off the field circus doesn't help either I'm certain this mess wouldn't have arose if vichai was still here.
Anyway...we're still in it so fingers crossed.
 
Brauny said:
Usually nearly 24 hours after a shit show I've calmed down enough to allow a bit more logic to filter through.
Not this time, I'm personally seething at yesterday's shambles.
You can point to 2 or 3 big opportunities squandered, but it wasn't that for me it was our whole approach to the game.
Within the first 15 mins we had conceded about 8 (4 on target) attempts on goal against 2 (0 on target) of our own.
This is nowhere near the first time we have allowed an opponent to take a strong foothold in the game. Why do we rarely go and show why we are at the top end of the table ? Why can't they start in an aggressive fashion and put down a marker that's saying to an opponent ' you boys ain't gonna live with us '
My initial thoughts are that there is a lack of tempo from us from the start that we allow teams to find their feet far too easily.
That 1st half was absolutely rubbish from a team at the top end.
We didn't have hardly any great control of the game, our lack of pace one again in defence exposed us to conceding some dangerous moments and potential penalties.
By half time it needed a Jock Wallace style little chat and an immediate and visible reaction to another poor first half. What we got was the latest addition to the Carry on films........Carry on being lethargic.
15 mins into the 2nd half, no changes to the tactics, formation or personal, just carry on.
The head honcho declared afterwards about being pleased with the numerous chances we had created, he was less vocal about statistically that the opponent created more.
The Bristol manager didn't rest on his laurels, with numerous new additions introduced, whilst our Messiah just arrogantly thought that nothing was wrong and our walking football would prevail.
Then the inevitable concession, even if you argued they didn't deserve it, the way things are going for us it wasn't anything you didn't expect.
The pundits pointed out we had £90M sitting on the bench but still took mastermind until the 75th minute to react.
After that ? Nothing really, no big reaction, no Alamo, just a feeble and disappointing end to a crucial game at a crucial game of the season.
No wonder the fans gave it them big time, had I have been there I would have joined the chorus of disapproval.

So on to Monday and Norwich.
Quite frankly I have no faith that the rot stops here.
This brand of football is not going to win the fans back, they'll only do that by having a right good go ( no walking football)
Only if they walk off the pitch with the fans knowing they gave it absolutely everything, will they escape the full wrath of the fans.

I can't see it happening though, this boss thinks he's something special, he's to stubborn and mardy to accept things ain't right and to change it.
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"this boss thinks he's something special, he's to stubborn and mardy to accept things ain't right and to change it."

Haven't we been here before? The whole team seem to be believing all the hype around the "best squad to ever play in the championship" bollox. I'm all for confidence but not at the expense of any sort of effort.

But, Enzo won't change partly due to, as you say his arrogance, but, also because I don't think he knows how to.

Let's be honest, how many games have we won comfortably this season? not many that I can think of.
 
It just reminds me of John beck at Cambridge, we have been completely sussed, there is no way forward without change
 
blackthorn8 said:
Yes Brauny but don't cut your fingernails
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Tbh I'm starting to feel resigned to it.
I just don't believe this brand of football is going to dig us out of a hole.
When the pressure is on we have wilted.
There is a lack of leaders on the pitch.
A lack of tempo.
A lack of bottle.
A lack of fight.
A lack of managerial nous.
A lack of momentum.

I don't believe the team is made of the right stuff, the stuff that's imperative for any side to get promoted.

I want to be so wrong, I want us to go and take the frustration out on Norwich. I want us to recover and get promoted.
You can say it's the same brand of football that got us to the top, but we've been sussed.
We have been rarely convincing over the last 3 months.

I just don't see it happening
 
Brauny said:
Usually nearly 24 hours after a shit show I've calmed down enough to allow a bit more logic to filter through.
Not this time, I'm personally seething at yesterday's shambles.
You can point to 2 or 3 big opportunities squandered, but it wasn't that for me it was our whole approach to the game.
Within the first 15 mins we had conceded about 8 (4 on target) attempts on goal against 2 (0 on target) of our own.
This is nowhere near the first time we have allowed an opponent to take a strong foothold in the game. Why do we rarely go and show why we are at the top end of the table ? Why can't they start in an aggressive fashion and put down a marker that's saying to an opponent ' you boys ain't gonna live with us '
My initial thoughts are that there is a lack of tempo from us from the start that we allow teams to find their feet far too easily.
That 1st half was absolutely rubbish from a team at the top end.
We didn't have hardly any great control of the game, our lack of pace one again in defence exposed us to conceding some dangerous moments and potential penalties.
By half time it needed a Jock Wallace style little chat and an immediate and visible reaction to another poor first half. What we got was the latest addition to the Carry on films........Carry on being lethargic.
15 mins into the 2nd half, no changes to the tactics, formation or personal, just carry on.
The head honcho declared afterwards about being pleased with the numerous chances we had created, he was less vocal about statistically that the opponent created more.
The Bristol manager didn't rest on his laurels, with numerous new additions introduced, whilst our Messiah just arrogantly thought that nothing was wrong and our walking football would prevail.
Then the inevitable concession, even if you argued they didn't deserve it, the way things are going for us it wasn't anything you didn't expect.
The pundits pointed out we had £90M sitting on the bench but still took mastermind until the 75th minute to react.
After that ? Nothing really, no big reaction, no Alamo, just a feeble and disappointing end to a crucial game at a crucial game of the season.
No wonder the fans gave it them big time, had I have been there I would have joined the chorus of disapproval.

So on to Monday and Norwich.
Quite frankly I have no faith that the rot stops here.
This brand of football is not going to win the fans back, they'll only do that by having a right good go ( no walking football)
Only if they walk off the pitch with the fans knowing they gave it absolutely everything, will they escape the full wrath of the fans.

I can't see it happening though, this boss thinks he's something special, he's to stubborn and mardy to accept things ain't right and to change it.
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The team shouldn't be getting the wrath of the fans. It's about time the fans got behind the team for once this season. Some fans are beginning to sound like spurs fans with their sense of entitlement.
 
MeltonFox said:
The team shouldn't be getting the wrath of the fans. It's about time the fans got behind the team for once this season. Some fans are beginning to sound like spurs fans with their sense of entitlement.
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Try telling that to the fans who paid good money to travel and watch them yesterday.
On top of Coventry, QPR, Boro and other recent lacklustre performances I'd say they are entitled to their opinions.
You don't lay into them for 1 bad game, it's a collation of being underwhelming for a good 3 months.
 
Brauny said:
Tbh I'm starting to feel resigned to it.
I just don't believe this brand of football is going to dig us out of a hole.
When the pressure is on we have wilted.
There is a lack of leaders on the pitch.
A lack of tempo.
A lack of bottle.
A lack of fight.
A lack of managerial nous.
A lack of momentum.

I don't believe the team is made of the right stuff, the stuff that's imperative for any side to get promoted.

I want to be so wrong, I want us to go and take the frustration out on Norwich. I want us to recover and get promoted.
You can say it's the same brand of football that got us to the top, but we've been sussed.
We have been rarely convincing over the last 3 months.

I just don't see it happening
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From what I recall, his back-room team is entirely unsuited to the demands of this sort of crisis. Novices, mates and no-names. Hand-picked by the creator (copier, actually) of the Big Idea.
 
We've been giving the opposition chances all season. We've gotten away with it in a lot of games becaseu the other strikers were crap, if not we scored more.
We don't have proper striker, sorry but we don't, we have have daka who might make sunday a league team, JV who cannot play 90 mins and isn't anywhere near his best, and nacho who can be brilliant or awful in the same game.
Look at a shite side like plymouth who despite being near the bottom have a striker who's scored 20 already this season.
If we had a 20 a season man in the #9 position we'd be up already and it's criminal we don't.
 
Brauny said:
I can't see it happening though, this boss thinks he's something special, he's to stubborn and mardy to accept things ain't right and to change it.
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I feel this is spot on & it’s infuriating that someone with no experience in the field of management could possibly think they are special.
Mourinho joined Chelsea & immediately told the press he was the special one, & he bloody well was after winning the champions league with porto.
This cheeky shit has the nerve to come to a club like ours, a club that has won every domestic trophy in this early part of the century & threaten to walk out if he gets wind that his ideas aren’t embraced & loved.
The moby needs to give his head a wobble. He won the bloody lottery getting his first ever gig at a club as big as us.
 
TopFox said:
What the fucking hell do you need the team to do before you think they deserve a bit of wrath?
I've never known such a soppy cunt as what your posts continually suggest you are.
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It's a clone of Spliff Ginetta.....
 
blackthorn8 said:
No because of what they see hasn't warranted it........ lm surprised they haven't voted with there feet
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But surely it's the crowds responsibility on occasions to gee the team up otherwise what is the point of a crowd if they are being reactive rather than proactive.
 
TopFox said:
What the fucking hell do you need the team to do before you think they deserve a bit of wrath?
I've never known such a soppy cunt as what your posts continually suggest you are.
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Because I'm a realist I understand football. You win some games you lose some. Teams get promoted, teams get relegated, it happens. We were always going to get relegated again because of our financial predictments. It happened sooner than I imagined though.. I've never turned on the team and I never will. As I said before it's great when we win but if we lose, it doesn't spoil my weekend. People may think I'm soppy that I don't show my wrath and I can understand why but I always thought it was counterproductive to boo your own team and manager.
 
MeltonFox said:
But surely it's the crowds responsibility on occasions to gee the team up otherwise what is the point of a crowd if they are being reactive rather than proactive.
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A group of very wealthy individuals need geeing up to get them going ?
I expect 100% from them every single second they wear the shirt, nothing less.
If they can't deal with criticism then they should find another club to take the piss out of.
It's not the fans job to give them unconditional love, but it should be a privilege for them to play for the club.
 
Brauny said:
A group of very wealthy individuals need geeing up to get them going ?
I expect 100% from them every single second they wear the shirt, nothing less.
If they can't deal with criticism then they should find another club to take the piss out of.
It's not the fans job to give them unconditional love, but it should be a privilege for them to play for the club.
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Like any job though surely you respond better if you had the backing rather than continually moaning.
 
TopFox said:
What the fucking hell do you need the team to do before you think they deserve a bit of wrath?
I've never known such a soppy cunt as what your posts continually suggest you are.
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Dont do it to yourself. Ignore him. He’s a troll, double log in twat.
 
MeltonFox said:
Like any job though surely you respond better if you had the backing rather than continually moaning.
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Back for what!!!
We could be shouting the fuckin roof off but it wouldn't enhance the game plan or the speed, skill or application. They're programed to Enzoball, which has been sussed and has been failing badly since just after Christmas.
 
astleyfox said:
Dont do it to yourself. Ignore him. He’s a troll, double log in twat.
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No only have one log in the other one I had has been blocked which the administrator is quite within his rights according to the rules. So had to create a new one. Once again though I'm not a troll I only post what I feel, which is what a message board is for isn't it?
 
MeltonFox said:
But surely it's the crowds responsibility on occasions to gee the team up otherwise what is the point of a crowd if they are being reactive rather than proactive.
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The apathy is created by what you see it dumbs you down, how can you respond to non tries, how can you respond to players going through the motions
It is good open play and effort that makes you respond.
 
essingtonblue said:
I feel this is spot on & it’s infuriating that someone with no experience in the field of management could possibly think they are special.
Mourinho joined Chelsea & immediately told the press he was the special one, & he bloody well was after winning the champions league with porto.
This cheeky shit has the nerve to come to a club like ours, a club that has won every domestic trophy in this early part of the century & threaten to walk out if he gets wind that his ideas aren’t embraced & loved.
The moby needs to give his head a wobble. He won the bloody lottery getting his first ever gig at a club as big as us.
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So, we're now at the stage of personal attacks on the manager. What has he actually said that's Mourinho-like, or made himself out to be something special?
 
He might be 'soppy' but he's not a foul mouthed oaf who routinely breaks the board's rules and gets away with it.
I refuse to debate with such people except to recommend the Alex Crook piece on Talksport, now available. spot on.
 
Brauny said:
A group of very wealthy individuals need geeing up to get them going ?
I expect 100% from them every single second they wear the shirt, nothing less.
If they can't deal with criticism then they should find another club to take the piss out of.
It's not the fans job to give them unconditional love, but it should be a privilege for them to play for the club.
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Brauny, I’ve worked in professional football, that’s just Roy of the Rovers thinking, I’m afraid.

It’s a job, a very well paid job, and it’s treated as such by the vast majority. Any player telling you otherwise is giving you Christmas Card pish.

We’ve got a squad filled with blokes who’s football next season will be well away from the KP, when the going gets tough they don’t care.

So fans are are between a rock and hard place, let them know what you think and they down tools, or scream your lungs out in support but they lack any kind of mental fortitude or willingness to go the extra and deal with pressure so they wilt.
 
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