Poor Donny

sixthswan

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Twitter is a company and they decide who can use it.

It isn't a freedom of speech platform.

Perhaps Donny can set his own platform up, but I have no doubt that he would ban those who don't agree with him.
 

Running Fox

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Twitter is a company and they decide who can use it.

It isn't a freedom of speech platform.

Perhaps Donny can set his own platform up, but I have no doubt that he would ban those who don't agree with him.
They were set up as a free speech platform, now being investigated for going against there advertising. ( Judge rules in California )
 

MrTeabreak

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They were not setup as a free speech platform, they are a company that makes money from users interacting with each other, like youtube, like facebook.
Why is it people that bang on about free speech have no actual clue as to what it means??
In the USA the 1st amendment means the GOVERNMENT cannot coerce your speech.
Even then, certain speech is not free if has harmful consequences, this has been ruled on again and again and again.
Private companies can make their own rules you have to follow as long as they don't infringe any other laws, if they do they are held accountable.
"No shirt, no shoes, no service" is not the same as "Please kill my neighbor".
 

Foxgolfer

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Trump had been winding up his more dumb radicalised sheep for months to the crescendo of Jan 6th . I doubt the families of the murdered cops would agree he should have the “freedom” to do it .
As I suggested , if a known IS leader had suggested British servicemen were legitimate targets in the streets of London due to the middle Eastern situation and murder followed, I wouldn’t be suggesting it was their right of feee speech and no action should be taken . I guess some on here would disagree .
 

Running Fox

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They were not setup as a free speech platform, they are a company that makes money from users interacting with each other, like youtube, like facebook.
Why is it people that bang on about free speech have no actual clue as to what it means??
In the USA the 1st amendment means the GOVERNMENT cannot coerce your speech.
Even then, certain speech is not free if has harmful consequences, this has been ruled on again and again and again.
Private companies can make their own rules you have to follow as long as they don't infringe any other laws, if they do they are held accountable.
"No shirt, no shoes, no service" is not the same as "Please kill my neighbor".
Well one of its core values is Free expression and civil liberties that is near enough for me. The 1st amendment protects freedom of speech as well as other freedoms.
You avoid the point well
He has not avoided anything, there are national laws to protect us and the state, I want free speech that falls within those boundaries. Stopping an elected president from talking to his people is in my view bias and wrong. Why are you so bitter and twisted with your outlook of Trump and Brexit? Both of these were about freedom and choice like taking the vaccine, but you want to put everything under some form of control. Be very careful what you wish for?
 

Foxgolfer

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Well one of its core values is Free expression and civil liberties that is near enough for me. The 1st amendment protects freedom of speech as well as other freedoms.

He has not avoided anything, there are national laws to protect us and the state, I want free speech that falls within those boundaries. Stopping an elected president from talking to his people is in my view bias and wrong. Why are you so bitter and twisted with your outlook of Trump and Brexit? Both of these were about freedom and choice like taking the vaccine, but you want to put everything under some form of control. Be very careful what you wish for
Agreed but you can’t then suggest an elected President is allowed to incite violence. Please don’t insult my intelligence by pretending that’s not what he was doing.
I know this is complicated, but lines are lines regarding ‘free speech’ whoever you are - surely ? Most would argue that people in positions of power and influence have an even greater responsibility .
 

sixthswan

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Donny came out with loads of shit on Twitter. He turned it into "shitter".

In the end the incitement to violence got him banned and correctly.
 

Foxgolfer

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Donny came out with loads of shit on Twitter. He turned it into "shitter".

In the end the incitement to violence got him banned and correctly.
Trump was too “lawyered up” to be completely direct but folks died due to his treacherous words .
An IS leader, or hate preacher may not specifically call for attacks on western countries but they are as much to blame as the uneducated radicalised sheep who hang on their every word and murder innocents .
 

Running Fox

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Agreed but you can’t then suggest an elected President is allowed to incite violence. Please don’t insult my intelligence by pretending that’s not what he was doing.
I know this is complicated, but lines are lines regarding ‘free speech’ whoever you are - surely ? Most would argue that people in positions of power and influence have an even greater responsibility .
Did you hear his speech!!! he said peaceably protest, did you also see the Democrats support the BLM violence and the attack on the police station? Far far worse was ever said by Biden and his crew.
 

Foxgolfer

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Did you hear his speech!!! he said peaceably protest, did you also see the Democrats support the BLM violence and the attack on the police station? Far far worse was ever said by Biden and his crew.
You just insulted my intelligence . He only said be peaceful hours into the attack when he realised his insurrection had failed and Pence was secure.
 

sixthswan

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To be fair he did mention something about being peaceful in his pre-riot speech. But there were little hints about fighting and taking back control. Rudy was the biggest culprit "Trial by combat"...

Donny's last tweet of the day was "Remember this day forever!". He clearly wasn't perturbed by the events of the day and the deaths.
 

Foxgolfer

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To be fair he did mention something about being peaceful in his pre-riot speech. But there were little hints about fighting and taking back control. Rudy was the biggest culprit "Trial by combat"...

Donny's last tweet of the day was "Remember this day forever!". He clearly wasn't perturbed by the events of the day and the deaths.
Evidence emerging that he wanted the once loyal puppy Pence killed so he could declare martial law and stop the democratic process . When it failed, he quickly covered his tracks and threw the mob under the bus . Nice guy .
 

Running Fox

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You just insulted my intelligence . He only said be peaceful hours into the attack when he realised his insurrection had failed and Pence was
Evidence emerging that he wanted the once loyal puppy Pence killed so he could declare martial law and stop the democratic process . When it failed, he quickly covered his tracks and threw the mob under the bus . Nice guy .
You really do get everything wrong
 

astleyfox

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Im on the edge of my seat, waiting to see Donald J Trump ride back into DC on his white charger, to take America back from the Peado’s! Tick tock!
 

AFCDorset

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Hi Running fox. Good to see you taking on those with advanced TDS, bravo. Sadly I gave up conversing with such spiteful and deranged idiots some time back.

Deus vult.
 

Foxgolfer

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Hi Running fox. Good to see you taking on those with advanced TDS, bravo. Sadly I gave up conversing with such spiteful and deranged idiots some time back.

Deus vult.
Well Dorset you are clearly so far down the rabbit hole despite your measured tone to believe the evidence of your own eyes and ears . I am sure the party would be very proud of you . Chilling
 

Running Fox

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Hi Running fox. Good to see you taking on those with advanced TDS, bravo. Sadly I gave up conversing with such spiteful and deranged idiots some time back.

Deus vult.
To be honest I have to say your wise not to bother, I think lockdown is sending me stir crazy. Be careful AFC or I will pass the baton on to you ;)
 

Running Fox

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Well Dorset you are clearly so far down the rabbit hole despite your measured tone to believe the evidence of your own eyes and ears . I am sure the party would be very proud of you . Chilling
AFC is smart enough to realise debating with you is futile because your views are fixed and whatever proof is presented you will just not understand it because your belief structure would not allow it. This is not a criticism but a personality fact. ( we all filter information to suit our perceived world view ) you and I have two totally different views on most things I fear, and will never agree but unlike AFC I cannot help myself trying to enlighten you.
 

Foxgolfer

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AFC is smart enough to realise debating with you is futile because your views are fixed and whatever proof is presented you will just not understand it because your belief structure would not allow it. This is not a criticism but a personality fact. ( we all filter information to suit our perceived world view ) you and I have two totally different views on most things I fear, and will never agree but unlike AFC I cannot help myself trying to enlighten
Please try . Here’s my interpretation of the evidence .
Trump spent months preparing for the overturn of the election should he lose - which of course he did heavily despite admittedly gaining 70m votes himself . He encouraged his radicalised supporters who he’d prepared for a “wild day“ to assemble with the intent to try to overthrow the election result . (Someone on here used a similar phrase while wetting his knickers because he was privy to the chatter on SM about Jan 6th .) If not - Why did he ask his wound up armed mob to march on Capitol Hill. Why had he threatened election officials in his own party to “find” more votes ?
He realised by Jan. 6th Pence was the only person who could save him by refusing to do his constitutional duty and declare the result . Why did he then specifically mention Pence as a man who had “betrayed” him even as the mob were chanting “ Hang Mike Pence “ ? All of this can clearly be heard on video footage of the event . The answer for me he was unconcerned he had unleashed a mob and was quite happy to watch them kill Pence and probably murder Pelosi and any other senators they found who they thought were against Trump . He would then have been able to suspend the democratic process and declare martial law .
What is your explanation ?
 

AFCDorset

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AFC is smart enough to realise debating with you is futile because your views are fixed and whatever proof is presented you will just not understand it because your belief structure would not allow it. This is not a criticism but a personality fact. ( we all filter information to suit our perceived world view ) you and I have two totally different views on most things I fear, and will never agree but unlike AFC I cannot help myself trying to enlighten you.
Morning RF. Busy day yesterday, but here are a few thoughts on what has been said.

A substantial proportion of the population, including a few on here, have been totally conditioned by years, decades of cultural marxist rhetoric to believe that up is down, black is white and all the rest. They see everything through a lens that turns everything around so that it is 100% opposite the truth, they then repeat this as 'fact'. It is called 'projection'.

Personally I do not care in the slightest what such people think, but I do care that I (and the rest of us) are required to think the same. It is kind of bearable for people like me who is not in public life as my views are kept pretty close, but for anyone who has any kind of a social or political profile and has different views, it can be dangerous.

It is most apparent in the US, once the Trump trial is over the corrupt legal system will go after and attempt to destroy anyone with any profile who might have supported Trump or his policies. This is unprecedented in US politics and could easily lead to the kind of political 'show trials' that were such a feature of life in the Soviet Union in the 50s and 60s.
 

Foxgolfer

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Morning RF. Busy day yesterday, but here are a few thoughts on what has been said.

A substantial proportion of the population, including a few on here, have been totally conditioned by years, decades of cultural marxist rhetoric to believe that up is down, black is white and all the rest. They see everything through a lens that turns everything around so that it is 100% opposite the truth, they then repeat this as 'fact'. It is called 'projection'.

Personally I do not care in the slightest what such people think, but I do care that I (and the rest of us) are required to think the same. It is kind of bearable for people like me who is not in public life as my views are kept pretty close, but for anyone who has any kind of a social or political profile and has different views, it can be dangerous.

It is most apparent in the US, once the Trump trial is over the corrupt legal system will go after and attempt to destroy anyone with any profile who might have supported Trump or his policies. This is unprecedented in US politics and could easily lead to the kind of political 'show trials' that were such a feature of life in the Soviet Union in the 50s and 60s.
You mean the legal system Trump tried with some success to corrupt ? You have things so far upside down you must have vertigo .
 
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