Bollocks to Boris
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Harwichfox
Roofer
Like he obeys his own rules..
AFCDorset
Roofer
Our 'rights' are being taken away piece by piece.
English Common Law is being transformed into 'Corpus Juris', if that does not trouble you, then you are not paying attention.
The Covid scamdemic is being used as a tool to bring this about and to do so remarkably quickly.
"Papers Please".
English Common Law is being transformed into 'Corpus Juris', if that does not trouble you, then you are not paying attention.
The Covid scamdemic is being used as a tool to bring this about and to do so remarkably quickly.
"Papers Please".
Sorry,
Your worried about a system of law introduced by the Romans in 534ad.
Can you explain what the issue is here?
Running Fox
Roofer
Well there is the roads for starters!
AFCDorset
Roofer
Holy Roman Empire IIRC.
Corpus juris, in its modern form derives from Napoleonic law, revised and implemented by (mostly) left wing authoritarian regimes of the 20th century.
As always, the real world implications are somewhat cruder than the legal theory which can be, and is, discussed and argued at the highest academic levels.
For ordinary people in the real world it is the currently rapid change from the freedoms of English Common Law to the restraints of a system that requires that you have 'permission' from the government to actually 'do' anything.
In the UK, you now need 'permission' to socialise with your family at Christmas, to travel overseas, to go to the gym or the pub and umpteen other things. These restrictions will be formalised and organised, they will be deliberately complex so it becomes virtually impossible to be in full compliance at all times. There will always be an excuse to stop, question and arrest anyone.
Some people do not seem to have an issue with that, some do.
hackneyfox
Roofer
So you think that ater the vaccine they'll continue to to control who we can see at Christams or when we can go to the gym?
Do you not think that unusual times need unusual ways to deal with them and that in a post Covid world we'll just revert to how things were before?
Do you not think that unusual times need unusual ways to deal with them and that in a post Covid world we'll just revert to how things were before?
AFCDorset
Roofer
Yes, that is exactly what I think. The vaccine as a health measure is not real, it is just a device to ensure compliance.
The 'unusual times' that we are living in is a political coup d'etat. It is designed to change our society for ever, so there is no way that things will revert to 'how things were before'.
S
SardiniaFox
Guest
Well, it's a viewpoint. I disagree completely.
hackneyfox
Roofer
With the exception of your hospital visit, have you been locked indoors for the last 6 months?
Unbelievably high levels of paranoia, but thankfully Foxtrot I know you don't mean it.
AFCDorset
Roofer
Feel free, actually I hope you are right.
I just look at how much everything has changed in that time. I have attempted to live as normally as possible but as a retired person whose life usually revolves around social activities, music gigs, restaurants and socialising in pubs and coffee shops, the difference is staggering.
I do not believe that things will get better anytime soon, what we have now, with a few minor adjustments, is going to be the 'new normal' and I hate it.
Club_B00k_Crutchless
Registered
Are you one of the Freemen-of-the-land? These are the ones putting little signs in shop windows and turning up in court with a piece of paper to tell the judge they have no jurisdiction over them.
Richardvanles
Roofer
Think he doesn't like following orders for no clear reason.
It's clear that most folk love following orders, it's their security blanket.
Easy to see how the Nazis got away with it.
Club_B00k_Crutchless
Registered
No reason? Not during a pandemic? We've done all the arguments but I know people who have had Covid, some were on a ventilator. One of my neighbours still can't walk much more than 50 yards without having to stop for a rest. Yeah most of the dead were elderly but I'm not prepared to sacrifice more elderly people just because some people don't believe it's real and they might have died anyway.
Hardly comparable to Nazis is it?
Hardly comparable to Nazis is it?
S
SardiniaFox
Guest
Some people cannot post without hyperbole.
Richardvanles
Roofer
Thanks for telling me all about your security blanket and dummy.
How about tell us the % of deaths compared to those who have contracted the virus?
Or the breakdown of deaths per age bracket?
We've crashed and burnt the economy due to a virus that most people don't even know they have or have very little side effects.
We've already killed a large population of our elderly due to this governments handling at the start and this is the most important part, this government still have the full support of the largest number of voters for the way they've helped to kill thousands of elderly while reducing your / our liberties.
You all LOVE it!
Out in the streets clapping the NHS like demented seals.
Your craving for feeling you belong is quite frankly pathetic.
Brauny
The optimistic pessimist
Had my weekly pilgrimage to the supermarket today.
Busy, very busy, and the non compliance particularly amongst the young generation is fast descending into a farce .Kind of annoys that tomorrow I will be told that I can't have my lovely pint in my favourite covid compliant pub for the foreseeable future, whilst the government is still happy to let me wonder into shops that seemingly have lost control of the rules.
Busy, very busy, and the non compliance particularly amongst the young generation is fast descending into a farce .Kind of annoys that tomorrow I will be told that I can't have my lovely pint in my favourite covid compliant pub for the foreseeable future, whilst the government is still happy to let me wonder into shops that seemingly have lost control of the rules.
AFCDorset
Roofer
I'm just a regular bloke who pays his taxes, obeys the law and prefers to be allowed to make his own choices wherever possible. I have learned to expect little from our government and believe strongly that they lie to us on a daily basis.
Covid is a scam, not that it isn't real, but that it is a 'seasonal virus' no worse than those that occur every year or three in modern times and nothing like as bad as some. It has been used to manipulate the population into a funk that is allowing our laws, legal system and way of life to be altered beyond recognition with greater changes to come.
The big question is will we ever be allowed to come out of this or will 'this' become the 'new normal'?
I am rather of the opinion that it will be the latter.
hackneyfox
Roofer
Why would the government want to keep us in our houses, close pubs and stop us from going abroad?
AFCDorset
Roofer
That is the question hackneyfox, why trash the economy and wreck our way of life?
If it was just this country that was doing it I would simply put it down to the monumental stupidity of our government, but many western governments are reacting in a similar way.
The Great Reset is openly discussed, what it will mean in reality is what troubles me.
If it was just this country that was doing it I would simply put it down to the monumental stupidity of our government, but many western governments are reacting in a similar way.
The Great Reset is openly discussed, what it will mean in reality is what troubles me.
Running Fox
Roofer
Lets deal in facts ? Hospitals are not full, There are no more Deaths this year than in an average year ( taken over the last 5 years ) so why have we locked everyone down killing the economy and in the long run more people than Covid will? There is a reason but its not that they want to protect us. I dont have the answer but something is not right. There is a reset taking place I doubt its a great one.
Can i ask where your getting your fact that there's no more deaths this year than the 5 year average?
that would be incredible, if true
AFCDorset
Roofer
The ONS shows that, over the year so far, deaths in the UK are about average. This includes the peak earlier in the year when the virus was allowed to run through the care homes.
Until a few weeks ago the total deaths for 2020 were below 2018 (year so far) though the deaths have overtaken the numbers for 2018 in recent weeks. We are being told that this is the 'second wave'.
However the recent weekly increase compared with 2018 may be because there was no early flu season that year (viral or regular) or rather more controversially, significantly reduced treatment for patients with non-covid related illnesses during the last 8 months or so. Deaths from cancer and heart disease are both up compared to the norm.
Until a few weeks ago the total deaths for 2020 were below 2018 (year so far) though the deaths have overtaken the numbers for 2018 in recent weeks. We are being told that this is the 'second wave'.
However the recent weekly increase compared with 2018 may be because there was no early flu season that year (viral or regular) or rather more controversially, significantly reduced treatment for patients with non-covid related illnesses during the last 8 months or so. Deaths from cancer and heart disease are both up compared to the norm.
Running Fox
Roofer
There are a number of sites, but Saturdays Daily Mail did a large article about it. They said the stats were from Government figures. there is an interview on talk Radio between Mike Graham and Peter Hitchin ( can be found on you tube ) that speaks about it and a agrees with the figures. 2min and 28 seconds in. I would urge you to listen to all of it though.
Club_B00k_Crutchless
Registered
Was that the one that included the chart put together by the Covid-denier who goes by the name statistics guy?