Apparently Trumps "effectively"

theres the problem, you have to get out of this mind set that the two party system is real. They are two sides of the same coin, its there to make you think your vote is important and you are voting one side in to work for you, they are not and never have been. It changed in 2016 completely, the US voted someone in who is "For the People". The two party system is controlled completely by the, for want of a better word, the Deep State. Some of you need to wake up to this. Has there ever been an elected party that as done what the people wanted when they voted them in ? the answer is NO, look at Brexit for instance. We are controlled by the DS by the financial system helped by the medical killing machine. There is no reason for inflation except to keeps us struggling and under the pressure to survive. Take away inflation you take away our slave masters control. To find the truth you've got to dismiss what they restrain us with, l see it every minute because ive removed these mental barriers. One l always struggle with and have to remind myself often of is that most think individual countries have autonomy, they don't, we are again separated by whats best described as farms. Check out Lockstep, its happened in every country in the same way, no different, why ? because its the same committee who control, its Davos, Billderburg,United Nations,WHO, its all the same hand in glove. Trump as changed the dynamics, thats why theres been 50 attempts on his life, ala JFK who tried the same tactics. Its amazing how people defend to the death "their party", none of them are your party. You have to know how we are controlled, try learning about Common Law, which is the only law that we need to abide by, Maritime Law is for the sea not the land but is forced onto us. If you knew its only by consent and you can oppose it, not easy, but they can't enforce any of it lawfully. It always, well mostly comes from the left, this defence of the slavery system that we are in, that brainwashing at its finest!

The 2 party system is a part of the divde and conquer system, black v white, protistant v catholic, left v right, its all in you head, they've put it there and you've allowed them too. Facism, Marxism, Comonism, dictatorships are all the same thing, control by a few on the masses, its that simple, but you have to stop believing what they drop feed you from a child.

l know how Trump broke this locked in system, just remember hes only a figure head for you to have a target of hate, or for the awake people , to follow.
Meanwhile on planet earth ......
 
show me were i'm wrong, not denying l can be but i'd like to hear it from an expert.
You are far far far too far down the rabbit hole to ever be assisted by simple rationality or facts I’m afraid , But there are organisations that can assist you with anti- radicalisation . Give it a try .
 
You are far far far too far down the rabbit hole to ever be assisted by simple rationality or facts I’m afraid , But there are organisations that can assist you with anti- radicalisation . Give it a try .
try, show me where i'm wrong
 
try, show me where i'm wrong
Icke has been banging on about this stuff for years. It doesn't mean he's right.

You asked for examples of Trump being racist. The two that spring immediately to mind are when he referred to Mexicans as rapists and drug dealers, and when to told the black congresswoman to go back to where they came from.

I'm not naive enough to think all people get into politics out of the goodness of their hearts. There are bigger forces at play, eg Bilderberg but Democrats will run the country differently to Republicans, hopefully in a fairer way.

So do you think all those people who were at the Capitol the other night understand all the stuff you're on about and are so upset because the Democrat supporters have got it so wrong?
 
theres the problem, you have to get out of this mind set that the two party system is real. They are two sides of the same coin, its there to make you think your vote is important and you are voting one side in to work for you, they are not and never have been. It changed in 2016 completely, the US voted someone in who is "For the People". The two party system is controlled completely by the, for want of a better word, the Deep State. Some of you need to wake up to this. Has there ever been an elected party that as done what the people wanted when they voted them in ? the answer is NO, look at Brexit for instance. We are controlled by the DS by the financial system helped by the medical killing machine. There is no reason for inflation except to keeps us struggling and under the pressure to survive. Take away inflation you take away our slave masters control. To find the truth you've got to dismiss what they restrain us with, l see it every minute because ive removed these mental barriers. One l always struggle with and have to remind myself often of is that most think individual countries have autonomy, they don't, we are again separated by whats best described as farms. Check out Lockstep, its happened in every country in the same way, no different, why ? because its the same committee who control, its Davos, Billderburg,United Nations,WHO, its all the same hand in glove. Trump as changed the dynamics, thats why theres been 50 attempts on his life, ala JFK who tried the same tactics. Its amazing how people defend to the death "their party", none of them are your party. You have to know how we are controlled, try learning about Common Law, which is the only law that we need to abide by, Maritime Law is for the sea not the land but is forced onto us. If you knew its only by consent and you can oppose it, not easy, but they can't enforce any of it lawfully. It always, well mostly comes from the left, this defence of the slavery system that we are in, that brainwashing at its finest!

The 2 party system is a part of the divde and conquer system, black v white, protistant v catholic, left v right, its all in you head, they've put it there and you've allowed them too. Facism, Marxism, Comonism, dictatorships are all the same thing, control by a few on the masses, its that simple, but you have to stop believing what they drop feed you from a child.

l know how Trump broke this locked in system, just remember hes only a figure head for you to have a target of hate, or for the awake people , to follow.
Can't really argue with much of that, I've been touching on this stuff for years. Falls on deaf ears. Few of points though.
1. Don't bother with golfer. Thick as pig shit.
2. Much admiration for John Harris. Unfortunately I never got chance to meet him in the flesh. Proper decent caring human being which was ultimately his demise. He made the same mistake as you have, by suggesting that none compliance is the key. Unfortunately our system is so corrupt eventually judges will make decisions that are not lawful and you end up in a whole host of trouble. People have lost their homes, businesses and liberty by following this mantra.
I'm not saying it's right, it's absolutely wrong but sticking your head above the pulpit will only get it shot off.
From legalese to the banking system to inflation to debt creation to Registering a birth to media ownership and control, its all linked for a purpose but until something radical happens we are stuck with it. Until folk wake up individuals will just be picked off.
3. I'm not sure about Trump, maybe he had the right intentions to start with but I'd question his mental capacity to follow them through. He failed to expose the deep state when he had the platform to do so. I know many of his original supporters (I'm not talking about the buck toothed Cletus's) are now calling him a stooge and a shrill.
The one thing he has done is make it harder for any mass protest by the people to achieve their goals.
 
Can't really argue with much of that, I've been touching on this stuff for years. Falls on deaf ears. Few of points though.
1. Don't bother with golfer. Thick as pig shit.
2. Much admiration for John Harris. Unfortunately I never got chance to meet him in the flesh. Proper decent caring human being which was ultimately his demise. He made the same mistake as you have, by suggesting that none compliance is the key. Unfortunately our system is so corrupt eventually judges will make decisions that are not lawful and you end up in a whole host of trouble. People have lost their homes, businesses and liberty by following this mantra.
I'm not saying it's right, it's absolutely wrong but sticking your head above the pulpit will only get it shot off.
From legalese to the banking system to inflation to debt creation to Registering a birth to media ownership and control, its all linked for a purpose but until something radical happens we are stuck with it. Until folk wake up individuals will just be picked off.
3. I'm not sure about Trump, maybe he had the right intentions to start with but I'd question his mental capacity to follow them through. He failed to expose the deep state when he had the platform to do so. I know many of his original supporters (I'm not talking about the buck toothed Cletus's) are now calling him a stooge and a shrill.
The one thing he has done is make it harder for any mass protest by the people to achieve their goals.
He's made it harder? That's debatable. Wherever we've ended up, it's been a collective effort and acts from many different sources and areas that have got us here.
Irrespective of whether he is a player or not, the obvious lesson for us all to get into our thick heads is the one they banged on about 6 years ago and never let up with: you mustn't choose anyone who isn't part of the system. These people are dangerous. Just let us go on screwing you over and believing that there are choices.
 
Icke has been banging on about this stuff for years. It doesn't mean he's right.
hes right about a lot of things, my opinion of him is that he is quite possibly a shill.
You asked for examples of Trump being racist. The two that spring immediately to mind are when he referred to Mexicans as rapists and drug dealers, and when to told the black congresswoman to go back to where they came from.
I did ask but l ask for REAL evidence of this but you ignored that and went into moron mode, repeat, repeat repeat.
I'm not naive enough to think all people get into politics out of the goodness of their hearts. There are bigger forces at play, eg Bilderberg but Democrats will run the country differently to Republicans, hopefully in a fairer way.
"A fairer way" really ! what as Trump genuinely done thats unfair, not saying hes nor but l don't know what. You don't mention him being the first president not to go to war in 32 years, stopping repayments of student loans (if you really understood the political reasons behind putting millions into debt for life by giving them an "education" you'd think differently). Ending of payroll tax. Clearing the country of central American cartels (who did the CIA's dirty work covertly). Theres lots more, but the press is and always will surpress this. I'm guessing you don't know about any of this, so as per you will say its BS, but its not, its true.
So do you think all those people who were at the Capitol the other night understand all the stuff you're on about and are so upset because the Democrat supporters have got it so wrong?
I have no idea what anyone else thinks, how could l ? It was very very convenient how it panned out in one of the best protected building in the world, surely thats food for thought. Fuck me. i'm being polite to a fucking idiot !!!!
 
He's made it harder? That's debatable. Wherever we've ended up, it's been a collective effort and acts from many different sources and areas that have got us here.
Irrespective of whether he is a player or not, the obvious lesson for us all to get into our thick heads is the one they banged on about 6 years ago and never let up with: you mustn't choose anyone who isn't part of the system. These people are dangerous. Just let us go on screwing you over and believing that there are choices.
Making it harder in the fact that the slightest signs of mass protest will be crushed using what happened in Capital Hill as an example as to why they can’t let things go too far.
 
try, show me where i'm wrong
You seem to think I am supportive of a political party . Far from it . I do not deny the system is rotten ,no more so in the U.K. where 57 % of voters at the last election now have no voice .
But populist authoritarianism is not the answer and Trumps corrupt 4 year attack on decency and the basics of democracy lead to the division , violence,and sadly , death and anarchy we saw on Wednesday.

Frankly as I said - addressing you is the very definition of futile . Life is to short to discuss politics with blancmange. You know my opinion . If you want to vent I suggest you slip over to Parler where you can find like minds.
 
Can't really argue with much of that, I've been touching on this stuff for years. Falls on deaf ears. Few of points though.
1. Don't bother with golfer. Thick as pig shit.
2. Much admiration for John Harris. Unfortunately I never got chance to meet him in the flesh. Proper decent caring human being which was ultimately his demise. He made the same mistake as you have, by suggesting that none compliance is the key. Unfortunately our system is so corrupt eventually judges will make decisions that are not lawful and you end up in a whole host of trouble. People have lost their homes, businesses and liberty by following this mantra.
I'm not saying it's right, it's absolutely wrong but sticking your head above the pulpit will only get it shot off.
From legalese to the banking system to inflation to debt creation to Registering a birth to media ownership and control, its all linked for a purpose but until something radical happens we are stuck with it. Until folk wake up individuals will just be picked off.
3. I'm not sure about Trump, maybe he had the right intentions to start with but I'd question his mental capacity to follow them through. He failed to expose the deep state when he had the platform to do so. I know many of his original supporters (I'm not talking about the buck toothed Cletus's) are now calling him a stooge and a shrill.
The one thing he has done is make it harder for any mass protest by the people to achieve their goals.
l don't believe non compliance is the way, its got to move slowly and build up momentum in my opinion, and l think it actually is. My views have slightly changed over the last few days. I always thought NESARA was a pipe dream and a hope, but something that basically was not directly involved with what is going on with all this fraud and the coup that is being attempted, l now believe its part of it as theres no other way unfortunately. The 6,000 medical patents that are suppressed, of which are world changing need to be exposed to the world even if not immidiately available, but it would be a huge wake up to the asleep. I've said that Trump is a figure head only, and l truly believe whats been said that the US military brought him in to avoid a military take over of the corrupt system. THe DS have all their big guns in action, none more so than the CCP and that pedi filth Trudeau collaboration with them (even though they are all the same thing). They are now suggesting that the 3 dams are gong to be destroyed, and the offer of 250,000 Chinese soldiers deployed to DC to see that Biden gets to rule. I don't know if these are facts or fiction and neither does anyone else on here, but it makes sense if you know how the world really works.
 
I did ask but l ask for REAL evidence of this but you ignored that and went into moron mode, repeat, repeat repeat.
I don't see how it can be more real than watching a recording of what he said without actually being there but maybe you know a way of transportation through time so we can be there so you know it's real.

Fairer ways such as taxing the rich, introducing health care people can afford, preferably free as part of a better welfare system.
 
You seem to think I am supportive of a political party . Far from it . I do not deny the system is rotten ,no more so in the U.K. where 57 % of voters at the last election now have no voice .
57% ! no one as a voice. Wake up.
But populist authoritarianism is not the answer and Trumps corrupt 4 year attack on decency and the basics of democracy lead to the division , violence,and sadly , death and anarchy we saw on Wednesday.
"decency" lets hear this,
"Trumps corrupt 4 years" are you serious, explain where ?
:division and violence and death" explain how he as been responsible for any of this and who was the upholder of these important things prior ?

Frankly as I said - addressing you is the very definition of futile . Life is to short to discuss politics with blancmange. You know my opinion . If you want to vent I suggest you slip over to Parler where you can find like minds.
this sounds like a get out, as you have no real answers.

Parler is being closed down because of the free speech it allows, you like that ? you think surpression of free speech is good, yeh ! just because its not what you believe. Mind numbing shit. You've got nothing have you except a brainwashed indoctrinated mind. You are a good slave basically.
 
l don't believe non compliance is the way, its got to move slowly and build up momentum in my opinion, and l think it actually is. My views have slightly changed over the last few days. I always thought NESARA was a pipe dream and a hope, but something that basically was not directly involved with what is going on with all this fraud and the coup that is being attempted, l now believe its part of it as theres no other way unfortunately. The 6,000 medical patents that are suppressed, of which are world changing need to be exposed to the world even if not immidiately available, but it would be a huge wake up to the asleep. I've said that Trump is a figure head only, and l truly believe whats been said that the US military brought him in to avoid a military take over of the corrupt system. THe DS have all their big guns in action, none more so than the CCP and that pedi filth Trudeau collaboration with them (even though they are all the same thing). They are now suggesting that the 3 dams are gong to be destroyed, and the offer of 250,000 Chinese soldiers deployed to DC to see that Biden gets to rule. I don't know if these are facts or fiction and neither does anyone else on here, but it makes sense if you know how the world really works.
We all shift our stance over the years. I guess I ‘got into’ this sort of shit years ago, probably through my left leaning and seeing social injustice. In hindsight mayb that was the first obstacle the DS needed to overcome, social injustice to become acceptable and the norm or more like get social injustice to a level that the woke left accept. Enter the next faze of tackling the right. The division of the people was there to exploit.
When you stand back and look at it, it’s now the right who are challenging the authorities and being locked up and silenced when 30 years ago it was the left going to prison and silenced.
Folk really need to wake up and realise it’s not left and right it’s them and us.
 
I don't see how it can be more real than watching a recording of what he said without actually being there but maybe you know a way of transportation through time so we can be there so you know it's real.

Fairer ways such as taxing the rich, introducing health care people can afford, preferably free as part of a better welfare system.
are you seriously that daft ?? v i d e o s might prove it, did you not think about that. So in a court case you can accuse someone of something and offer NO proof, just that "you heard", would you win, no of course not, so stop being a twat.
 
I don't see how it can be more real than watching a recording of what he said without actually being there but maybe you know a way of transportation through time so we can be there so you know it's real.

Fairer ways such as taxing the rich, introducing health care people can afford, preferably free as part of a better welfare system.
Biden has had influence in policy in the US for how many years. Have you checked out his voting record and some of the comments he’s made in the past and the wars he’s supported?
The lesser of two evils is still evil.
 
We all shift our stance over the years. I guess I ‘got into’ this sort of shit years ago, probably through my left leaning and seeing social injustice. In hindsight mayb that was the first obstacle the DS needed to overcome, social injustice to become acceptable and the norm or more like get social injustice to a level that the woke left accept. Enter the next faze of tackling the right. The division of the people was there to exploit.
When you stand back and look at it, it’s now the right who are challenging the authorities and being locked up and silenced when 30 years ago it was the left going to prison and silenced.
Folk really need to wake up and realise it’s not left and right it’s them and us.
agreed. Theres one thing that as puzzled me is how they flipped the Citizen Smith pretenders who wear army jackets like real rebels to totally defend the system.
 
57% ! no one as a voice. Wake up.

"decency" lets hear this,
"Trumps corrupt 4 years" are you serious, explain where ?
:division and violence and death" explain how he as been responsible for any of this and who was the upholder of these important things prior ?


this sounds like a get out, as you have no real answers.

Parler is being closed down because of the free speech it allows, you like that ? you think surpression of free speech is good, yeh ! just because its not what you believe. Mind numbing shit. You've got nothing have you except a brainwashed indoctrinated mind. You are a good slave b
57% ! no one as a voice. Wake up.

"decency" lets hear this,
"Trumps corrupt 4 years" are you serious, explain where ?
:division and violence and death" explain how he as been responsible for any of this and who was the upholder of these important things prior ?


this sounds like a get out, as you have no real answers.

Parler is being closed down because of the free speech it allows, you like that ? you think surpression of free speech is good, yeh ! just because its not what you believe. Mind numbing shit. You've got nothing have you except a brainwashed indoctrinated mind. You are a good slave basically.
57% ! no one as a voice. Wake up.

"decency" lets hear this,
"Trumps corrupt 4 years" are you serious, explain where ?
:division and violence and death" explain how he as been responsible for any of this and who was the upholder of these important things prior ?


this sounds like a get out, as you have no real answers.

Parler is being closed down because of the free speech it allows, you like that ? you think surpression of free speech is good, yeh ! just because its not what you believe. Mind numbing shit. You've got nothing have you except a brainwashed indoctrinated mind. You are a good slave basically.
Trumps corrupt 4 years
Pointless though it is .....here’s a top 10
1. Sacking anyone who dare disagree with him
2. Filling government offices with members of his own family
3. Filling key offices of state with unqualified friends and cronies including vital areas of national security
4. Attempting to disrupt the postal services to disenfranchise voters during a pandemic
5. Intimidating election officials to “ find” votes
6. Continuing to make totally unfounded claims about election fraud which 61 independent courts including the Republican biased Suoreme court find laughable
7. Inciting a rabble to attack the seat of the American constitution
8. Wishing the pimp of a notorious paedophile well
9. Bribing prostitutes to remain silent
10. Proven to have publically lied to the people 20000+ times since inauguration.
Swamps don’t come close , but thankfully he’s gone and we can only hope the financial fraud alone ensured a very long stretch in jail.
That’s it I’m done
 
are you seriously that daft ?? v i d e o s might prove it, did you not think about that. So in a court case you can accuse someone of something and offer NO proof, just that "you heard", would you win, no of course not, so stop being a twat.
Heard? The video evidence is there for all to see. It's pointless trying to have a conversation with someone who is so fixed that their opinions are right they can see something and deny it.
The lesser of two evils is still evil.
Correct but there's not much choice for them is there? Fortunately I don't live there.
 
Heard? The video evidence is there for all to see. It's pointless trying to have a conversation with someone who is so fixed that their opinions are right they can see something and deny it.
Where ? You said it, why don’t you show us ? Win us over eh ! Or just carry on in a world of make believe. I guess this is what you get from bull shitters. You’ve got the floor weirdo
Correct but there's not much choice for them is there? Fortunately I don't live there.
 
hes right about a lot of things, my opinion of him is that he is quite possibly a shill.

I did ask but l ask for REAL evidence of this but you ignored that and went into moron mode, repeat, repeat repeat.

"A fairer way" really ! what as Trump genuinely done thats unfair, not saying hes nor but l don't know what. You don't mention him being the first president not to go to war in 32 years, stopping repayments of student loans (if you really understood the political reasons behind putting millions into debt for life by giving them an "education" you'd think differently). Ending of payroll tax. Clearing the country of central American cartels (who did the CIA's dirty work covertly). Theres lots more, but the press is and always will surpress this. I'm guessing you don't know about any of this, so as per you will say its BS, but its not, its true.

I have no idea what anyone else thinks, how could l ? It was very very convenient how it panned out in one of the best protected building in the world, surely thats food for thought. Fuck me. i'm being polite to a fucking idiot !!!!
I just want to challenge a couple of things here, namely payroll tax and student debt.

I'm fairly sure that payroll tax hasn't ended, it was only deferred not ended, here's the detail:

Under the payroll tax deferral, employers can choose not to withhold the employee portion of the Social Security tax through the end of 2020. Participating employees may allow their employees to opt out of the deferral. If taxes are deferred, the amount must be repaid in full by April 2021

And secondly us student debt is quoted as being $1.7t, in March last year trump tried to reduce existing student debt rules to ensure an additional $11b was paid by students.

In October trump looked to reduce total debt by $25b via the relief bill
 
Where ? You said it, why don’t you show us ? Win us over eh ! Or just carry on in a world of make believe. I guess this is what you get from bull shitters. You’ve got the floor weirdo
Number one - Mexicans

Number two was actually a series of Tweets

 
We all shift our stance over the years. I guess I ‘got into’ this sort of shit years ago, probably through my left leaning and seeing social injustice. In hindsight mayb that was the first obstacle the DS needed to overcome, social injustice to become acceptable and the norm or more like get social injustice to a level that the woke left accept. Enter the next faze of tackling the right. The division of the people was there to exploit.
When you stand back and look at it, it’s now the right who are challenging the authorities and being locked up and silenced when 30 years ago it was the left going to prison and silenced.
Folk really need to wake up and realise it’s not left and right it’s them and us.
So assuming all the world governments and institutions are dodgy, corrupt, self serving and all in it together to a certain extent what's the answer? You say people need to wake up but what can they actually do and what do you replace the current stuff with? There are two fundamental truths which make action generally pointless as itl just end up going back to where it is now 1) There are way too many humans on the planet, 2) All humans, to varying degrees, are inherently selfish.
 
Trumps corrupt 4 years
Pointless though it is .....here’s a top 10
why is it pointless ? you are trying to explain your stupidity, you need to do it.
1. Sacking anyone who dare disagree with him
1. is there a football manager in the world who wouldn't replace certain players who are not working for the team ? as for "daring to disagree" you don't know that at all, guessing using you confiration bias as proof.
2. Filling government offices with members of his own family
2. The first lady is always the first lady, doesn't every president involve his most trusted ? why wouldn't you. and what is your point here ?
3. Filling key offices of state with unqualified friends and cronies including vital areas of national security
3. This is too ridiclious for words as a quote, just stop being stupid yet again. Mad thing to say really. How do you know they are unqualified, what qualifications do you need, Jesus, i'm regretting replying now its just silliness.
4. Attempting to disrupt the postal services to disenfranchise voters during a pandemic
4. This question is worse, the postal vote was the key to election fraud and the world knows it. There are figures that prove it. Why would one party want it and not another, can you explain that ? no you can't because you haven't thought of that have you. It was for one reason and one reason only, grow up.
5. Intimidating election officials to “ find” votes
5. I think that you will find it was the DS Democrats who shut the vote counts down with Trump walking it, then carried on counting the imported votes while watchers were sent home. This is in 260 court cases being processed now. More bollocks from you.
6. Continuing to make totally unfounded claims about election fraud which 61 independent courts including the Republican biased Suoreme court find laughable
6. Are you seriously this daft, it was huge huge fraud, have you heard of the Dominion machines, Do you know the counties that used Dominion was given grants to do so (back handers). No you don't because you know fuck all. Theres mountains of evidence n various voting manipulation. Its not even an argument.
7. Inciting a rabble to attack the seat of the American constitution
7. No he didn't, it was at best a false flag, you have not one job of proof that Trump "incited" that easy entrance to one of the worlds most secure building. Look at the paramilitary police photo on the steps when BLM protested outside and then look at the flimsy barriers and the un tooled up OB for this farce, you won't because you deal in lies. Also the constitution is not being adhered to by the DS anywhere in the world, its the opposite to what you are lying about. Do you know what Common Law is as opposed to Admiltery Law is, do you know what the Corperation of the United States is ? do you know that this is what Trump is taking down and going to the hijacked Bill of Rights ? No you don't.

8. Wishing the pimp of a notorious paedophile well
8. What are you talking about ?
9. Bribing prostitutes to remain silent
9. Absolute bull shit.
10. Proven to have publically lied to the people 20000+ times since inauguration.
10. Just an obvious plain silly comment, like the previous 2 with nothing nthe slightest evidence, just hate filled propaganda.
Swamps don’t come close , but thankfully he’s gone and we can only hope the financial fraud alone ensured a very long stretch in jail.
10. you have nothing to back any of that up just more bull shit.
That’s it I’m done
10. you've been done a long time, your thick as shit and bias as any idiot could be.
 
Number one - Mexicans

Number two was actually a series of Tweets

are you for real, that first one is cobbled together and using paraphrases as l said don't use, because only an idiot would believe the chopped together attack as proof.
l can't see the second as i'd have to subscribe but l guess its the same.

If thats the evidence you have then just say sorry and admit you have nothing, once again too stupid for words.
 
So assuming all the world governments and institutions are dodgy, corrupt, self serving and all in it together to a certain extent what's the answer? You say people need to wake up but what can they actually do and what do you replace the current stuff with? There are two fundamental truths which make action generally pointless as itl just end up going back to where it is now 1) There are way too many humans on the planet, 2) All humans, to varying degrees, are inherently selfish.
I honestly don’t know the answer. I’m at the stage in my life where just knowing it’s all bullshit is the best I can achieve.
 
So assuming all the world governments and institutions are dodgy, corrupt, self serving and all in it together to a certain extent what's the answer? You say people need to wake up but what can they actually do and what do you replace the current stuff with? There are two fundamental truths which make action generally pointless as itl just end up going back to where it is now 1) There are way too many humans on the planet, 2) All humans, to varying degrees, are inherently selfish.
3 things
Forget that there are countries who are self determined and run by the honestly elected people, for the benefit of the people. This is the biggest illusion that keeps us trapped.

1) The world is not over populated, its simple to prove but l don't have the time or inclination.
2) Agreed, but its called self survival and is built in and its a good thing not a bad thing.
 
why is it pointless ? you are trying to explain your stupidity, you need to do it.

1. is there a football manager in the world who wouldn't replace certain players who are not working for the team ? as for "daring to disagree" you don't know that at all, guessing using you confiration bias as proof.

2. The first lady is always the first lady, doesn't every president involve his most trusted ? why wouldn't you. and what is your point here ?

3. This is too ridiclious for words as a quote, just stop being stupid yet again. Mad thing to say really. How do you know they are unqualified, what qualifications do you need, Jesus, i'm regretting replying now its just silliness.

4. This question is worse, the postal vote was the key to election fraud and the world knows it. There are figures that prove it. Why would one party want it and not another, can you explain that ? no you can't because you haven't thought of that have you. It was for one reason and one reason only, grow up.

5. I think that you will find it was the DS Democrats who shut the vote counts down with Trump walking it, then carried on counting the imported votes while watchers were sent home. This is in 260 court cases being processed now. More bollocks from you.

6. Are you seriously this daft, it was huge huge fraud, have you heard of the Dominion machines, Do you know the counties that used Dominion was given grants to do so (back handers). No you don't because you know fuck all. Theres mountains of evidence n various voting manipulation. Its not even an argument.

7. No he didn't, it was at best a false flag, you have not one job of proof that Trump "incited" that easy entrance to one of the worlds most secure building. Look at the paramilitary police photo on the steps when BLM protested outside and then look at the flimsy barriers and the un tooled up OB for this farce, you won't because you deal in lies. Also the constitution is not being adhered to by the DS anywhere in the world, its the opposite to what you are lying about. Do you know what Common Law is as opposed to Admiltery Law is, do you know what the Corperation of the United States is ? do you know that this is what Trump is taking down and going to the hijacked Bill of Rights ? No you don't.


8. What are you talking about ?

9. Absolute bull shit.

10. Just an obvious plain silly comment, like the previous 2 with nothing nthe slightest evidence, just hate filled propaganda.

10. you have nothing to back any of that up just more bull shit.

10. you've been done a long time, your thick as shit and bias as any idiot could be.
No doubt if I dare ask for an example of the “mountains of evidence“ you will direct me to some video of a bloke dressed as a bison spouting gibberish . Just give up and grow up . He lost Bigly .
 
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