The Lady’s Not for Gurning

Spineless wankers wearing blue ties or useless wankers wearing red ties!!!

How the fuck has it come to this

Lets not bother with an election, we should just do what "the markets" want
 
Kwarteng sacked. I'm really curious to see how Truss will spin this given he delivered exactly the policies that she said she'd implement during the leadership campaign....
 
Mistryman said:
Kwarteng sacked before Rodgers. Anyone had this on their slip?
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I've got cheese in my fridge that has lasted longer than KK was chancellor for.

Even Watford managers have survived longer than KK.

David Blane was in that box for longer.

When asked by the BBC whether he would still be chancellor this time next month, KK replied "100% yes". Proves that he's never been that good with numbers.
 
TartanFox said:
Jeremy Hunt in. He's been such a roaring success elsewhere.
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Fancy hitching your wagon to Liz Truss, reckon that's his future in the tory party royally screwed.
The current bunch of brexit radicals were never likely to vote for him as a future leader though.
 
MPs need to realise they are there to serve others not themselves. First Labour slime balls ignore their members and get rid of Corbyn and now these shit bags are not content to get rid of one prime minister they want to defy their members and get rid of another
Never mind vote for them I wouldn’t piss on them
 
Don’t believe all you read in the press, this is getting fucking ridiculous, she’s only been doing the job 5 minutes and she’s being hounded out by the egos of the money men/washer women in the city and the Tories haven’t got the balls to tell them to fuck off whilst Labour are sniggering in the background not realising they are complicit in the destruction of true democracy
 
HughJanus said:
Don’t believe all you read in the press, this is getting fucking ridiculous, she’s only been doing the job 5 minutes and she’s being hounded out by the egos of the money men/washer women in the city and the Tories haven’t got the balls to tell them to fuck off whilst Labour are sniggering in the background not realising they are complicit in the destruction of true democracy
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And while she's busy facing down the money men and washer women (?) the mortgage rates stay astronomical, and the borrowing costs (paid for by you and me) stay astronomical. How do you think that will play out?

You can blame the press, and the city, and the washer women... but this is self made. She was cautioned against doing it, ignored the warnings, apparently continues to ignore the warnings, and appears completely out of her depth.
 
Adumass said:
And while she's busy facing down the money men and washer women (?) the mortgage rates stay astronomical, and the borrowing costs (paid for by you and me) stay astronomical. How do you think that will play out?

You can blame the press, and the city, and the washer women... but this is self made. She was cautioned against doing it, ignored the warnings, apparently continues to ignore the warnings, and appears completely out of her depth.
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The borrowing costs are not astronomical they are just a bit higher than they were. The interest rates were increasing due to inflation anyway and will probably continue to do so and that is a world wide fact. Many of us can remember mortgage rates up to 18% due to rampant inflation. The main problem is people coming off fixed rates and being shocked that interest rates do go up as well as down, further exacerbated by mortgage companies seeing an opportunity to make more from the public. One of the reasons the fund managers went into meltdown was because the Fed raised interest rates and the B of E didn’t this made some of their under performing portfolios look even worse.
There is no doubt that the government have fucked up but the mass hysteria surrounding it is mainly caused by the markets seeing a chance to fuck over the establishment and the media being determined to try to out do each other with grossly exaggerated reporting.
The MPs (of all persuasions) have decided that they know better than their membership (which might be true) but they all have systems for electing their leaders and they have a duty to respect the choice as we all do with each general election and right now we have the money men trying to dictate fiscal policy and the MPs behaving like an unruly rabble determined to look after themselves rather than doing their duty to their parties and more importantly the country as a whole
 
Of course the MPs know more than the membership...I just have to read your post to realise that. It's never nice to back a car crash...

Just cos Jacob RM says something...doesn't mean it's true.
 
You miss the point. All the political parties have systems for electing their leaders, just because you don’t like the result doesn’t mean it’s OK to ignore it.

In the same way the people we have elected have made some decisions, we might not agree with them but we can’t have a situation where unelected horse traders can force governments to change policy

Democracy is being undermined here, it’s nothing to do with political preferences
 
I've said nothing about the leadership election process. Its clear from that process her colleagues didn't rate her, and they've been proved correct.

The market reaction is completely of her own making. She was warned, she did it anyway. The market can't 'force' anyone into a U-turn.

I'm afraid you're just going to have to suck this one up...you've got someone in charge who appears less electable than Corbyn, and less capable than any leader in my lifetime .
 
You might not have said it but it was entirely my point. If democracy is worth anything it can’t be undermined by out side interests. The market reaction should not influence the decisions of a government whether it’s right or wrong and changing things every three weeks because someone shouts loudly is hardly giving the policy a chance.

As an aside I’m not sure whether I prefer being worse off because of higher interest rates or higher taxation
 
They’re now Unturning on matters that were known before the mini budget like the corporation tax proposal.

Totally rudderless.
 
IR35 changes scrapped.
Reduction of Paye from by 1% scrapped.
Her boast of help with fuel bills for two years is now hollow.

What is the point of her now? Clearly followig an economic aganda that she doesn't agree with and didn't get elected on.
 
hackneyfox said:
IR35 changes scrapped.
Reduction of Paye from by 1% scrapped.
Her boast of help with fuel bills for two years is now hollow.

What is the point of her now? Clearly followig an economic aganda that she doesn't agree with and didn't get elected on.
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Her economic agenda was an attempt to take Brexit to its logical conclusion - and it disintegrated immediately after being launched. She's now a lame duck and will remain so while she stays in the job. There is no point whatsoever in her being there.

This is quite interesting...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1581911292218331136
 
Seeing that it looks impossible for anything other than a Labour victory at the next election, I sincerely hope that they win it outright.
Any kind of Tory revival would likely mean Labour having the burden of sharing with Madam Krankie and her disciples.
 
ClaphamFox said:
Her economic agenda was an attempt to take Brexit to its logical conclusion - and it disintegrated immediately after being launched. She's now a lame duck and will remain so while she stays in the job. There is no point whatsoever in her being there.

This is quite interesting...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1581911292218331136
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Brexit did not really disintegrate, it was wilfully and deliberately obstructed and finally destroyed by the massed pro globalist remainers that make up most of the government (all parties, both houses), the civil service and all of the associated agencies set up by the government over several decades.

The fun and games surrounding the incumbents of Downing St, are simply another distraction fuelled by the media whilst the globalists quietly put into place 'their' men. Look out for the return of Sunak, Gove and others just as powerful but less well known. Put in place by outside forces, cheered on by the broadcast and print media.

Brauny said:
Seeing that it looks impossible for anything other than a Labour victory at the next election, I sincerely hope that they win it outright.
Any kind of Tory revival would likely mean Labour having the burden of sharing with Madam Krankie and her disciples.
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Will not make the slightest difference, Labour are just as keen to sell the country down the globalist river as the current incumbents. It is a coup, all parties are in on it.
 
AFCDorset said:
Brexit did not really disintegrate, it was wilfully and deliberately obstructed and finally destroyed by the massed pro globalist remainers that make up most of the government (all parties, both houses), the civil service and all of the associated agencies set up by the government over several decades.
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Please - not this again. Brexit has actually happened, & that's why we're in so much of the shit we're in right now.

None of those championing it & that convinced you to vote for it, actually had a credible plan, which is why they used so many divisive means to convince people otherwise.
 
buz_not_buzz said:
Indeed. Media editorials extolling or demonising specific political parties should be a criminal offence & political parties should only be funded by individual members (not through association) through membership fees capped at a maximum of £50.
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Depends who they’re demonising apparently.
 
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