The Gurkha Soldier!

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A Ghurka Subaltern who I met later told me that commanding a platoon of them was like leading a group of perfectly-disciplined ten-year-olds,and I believe him. Watching them play football,for example,was like watching very small children,for they hadn't the least idea of playing the game;they had no interest of teams or goals or anything of the sort. Their one idea was to chase the ball in a screaming,laughing mob,booting it as far as possible and running after it with their little skulls gleaming and pigtails bobbing,to boot it again. Unless chance directed the ball back to where they had started,they were liable to vanish into the distance,yelling: "Futtbal,Futtbal" - and the extraordinary thing was that they did it properly dressed,with their puttees on and shirts buttoned at the wrists.
Their only other recreation that I saw was the catapult, the Y - and - elastic toy which the Americans call a sling shot.Many of the Ghurkas carried them in their hip-pockets,and if you were suddenly stung a tergo and heard a smothered giggle from behind a tree,it was worth stopping and shouting: "Idderao,Johnny! Ham dekko,you little bugger" just for the pleasure of seeing the small face come cautiously peeping out,followed by the marksman himself,wearing a sheepish grin and holding up his catapult by way of explanation,as if you didn't know. As far as I could see they confined themselves to British targets(there seemed to be no great love lost between themselves and the Indian Regiments,especially the Sikhs),and we took it as a complement. No one would have dreamed of taking offence;it would have been downright cruel,for the Ghurka was as eager to please as a playful grandchild. The thought of quarrelling with one of them never even occurred - for one thing,you'd be better picking a fight with a King Cobra!
That was a thing that was often hard to remember:that this delightful little man,with his ungainly walk and protruding backside and impish grin,who barely came up to your shoulder and was one of nature's born comedians,was also probably the most fatal fighting man on earth. Their reckless courage was legendary, and I imagine that in proportion to their numbers they must have won more Victoria Crosses than any other race in the Army. I was never among them during an action, but I was once privileged to watch,from a distance,a company of them attacking a Japanese position. There was a Highland unit on their left,advancing with that slow,deliberate,110-paces-to-the-minute tread which used to be the trademark of the kilted regiments;the Ghurkas had to trot to keep up,little green uniformed figures with their bush-hats at the rakish Ghurka angle,each man with his rifle at the trail in his left hand and his drawn Kukri in his right. Over the last few yards the Highlanders suddenly accelerated,but any noise they made was drowned out by the ear-splitting scream of the little hillmen going like demented dwarves, brandishing their knives as they scampered into the trees - and I was profoundly glad that I wasn't Japanese. One of the Highlanders told me later that when they came out again they found the ground before the enemy position littered with Ghurka rifles: most of them had gone in with their Kukris alone.
There was another occasion when a Ghurka platoon close to us held a position against two companies of Japanese who wouldn't take no for answer,but kept coming time and again,yelling "Banzai!"; the Ghurkas just stood fast and stopped them until the position was littered with Jap dead. When the Ghurkas were finally withdrawn it was discovered that they hadn't a single round of ammunition left among them!
(From "Quartered Safe Out Here", a Soldiers recollections of the War in Burma).
 
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My late dad spent his National Service in India, sharing barracks with some Ghurkas.

When my dad and his mates went into the local town they used to get into all sorts of bother with the locals until they realised that if they took a Ghurka along with them the locals left them well alone. Apparently their reputation for ultra-violence and an unhealthy fetish for collecting ears was a bit too much for the local population
 
I regularly see some today in Army vehicles around the area. Or a few might be seen road running. They are Ghurka 'Signals' who spend time in the 'Gamecock' Barracks at Bramcote near Nuneaton!
 
"Quartered Safe Out Here" is a book I am reading at the moment. The author is a Scot who served with the Kings Own Borderer's in Burma. A largely Cumbrian mob of lads. They had a long held regimental history of skulduggery and thieving steeped in their history as "border reivers". The humour in the book is therefore laugh out loud as you read it. But some of the passages of loss of life and hardship are difficult to read and make you have to swallow hard!
 
Indian Corps were shipped into Marseilles in 1914 by Kitchener to address a shortage of manpower in the early stages of the Great War. Before Kitchener's British conscript Army could be brought in and deployed to full effect. The Indian Infantry endured that worst winter of the war with inadequate warm clothing. They fought in the First Battle of Ypres and Neuve Chapelle,1915.
They had arrived in France with their own Officers from India. A particular problem became the high losses of these Officers in the two battles. Replacements didn't know the many languages needed nor the Indian customs or dietary logistics to effectively lead these otherwise well trained troops. Artillery shells and Munitions were also in short supply at this stage of the conflict with not enough to sustain the initial successes in both of these battles.
As a consequence the Asquith Government was brought down to be replaced by a coalition under David Lloyd George.
When the British conscript Army had steadily grown to the numbers needed then the Indian Corps Infantry was withdrawn to the Middle East theatre. Two Indian Cavalry Divisions did remain on the Western Front for the duration.
The first Victoria Cross awarded to an Indian soldier on the Western Front was during the First Battle of Ypres and a second one followed at Neuve Chapelle.
On a local note Private William Buckingham,2nd Battalion,Leicestershire Regiment was also awarded the Victoria Cross at Neuve Chapelle!
 
Squadron Leader Edwin Dunning,R.N.A.S, the first pilot to land an aeroplane successfully onto the moving deck of a rudimentary Aircraft Carrier,H.M.S Furious,in 1917. He was killed on his 3rd such landing when his aeroplane skidded on the deck and fell over the side. Unconscious in the wreckage of the cockpit he drowned in the sea before he could be rescued.
This costly experiment with many pilots lives lost culminated in the first airborne raid launched from sea on an enemy airbase. Seven aircraft took off from H.M.S Furious,which had sailed to within 12 miles of Denmark,to attack the German Zeppelin base at Tondern!
 
Viet Minh kicked the poo out of them in '45 :oops:
I didn't know about this so I just did some research. I had no idea that British forces were in Vietnam for 7 months in 1945-46. What I read suggests that they were extremely succesful in actions against the Viet Minh as most troops were battle-hardened and experienced in jungle fighting whereas the Viet Minh were just starting out. British, Gurkha, Indian and Japanese troops worked together.
 
We used a lot of Japanese soldiers in the Far East for 'policing duties' after their surrender. By far the largest number of Japanese soldiers in WWII were in Manchuria fighting Nationalist and Communist Chinese. The Russians defeated that Japanese Army in the end!
 
Harold Wilson later refused all American requests to send any British troops to Vietnam. Robert McNamara,US Secretary of Defence, even desperately implored for just a British Medical contingent and Nurses to be sent so it would look good to the American public who were by then turning against the war.
Robert Menzies,the Australian PM, sent some Aussie troops on a small scale and an even smaller number of New Zealanders saw service out there too!
 
What I read suggests that they were extremely succesful in actions against the Viet Minh as most troops were battle-hardened and experienced in jungle fighting whereas the Viet Minh were just starting out. British, Gurkha, Indian and Japanese troops worked together.



Largely, but specifically the Binh Xuyen at the Battle of Saigon. One of their local commanders defected to the Viet Minh in 1943 with 2,000 men. They were decisive against Empire, French and Japanese troops and slightly vicious - they took out a Gurkha squad on the Marchaise Road under command of Le Van Vien and kept up the fight as a unit to '54.

Look up the Binh Xuyen, sort of a Tong equivalent!
 
Thanks to all posters...very interesting read. My Dad was in the RAF at tail-end of the war, in Burma Malaya and Singapore
He brought home some WWII memorabilia and passed on a Ghurka kukri to me which I treasure today
Dad always gave great respect to the Ghurkas he served alongside as being patriotic and fierce warriors
What i found disturbing was 5-10 years ago when the British government refused to grant British citizenship to ex-Ghurka fighters who had put their lives on the line for the Crown - fortunately, after uproar from many sides, UK Government relented and allowed the Ghurka soldiers and their families to remain in Britain.
An old cliche but you would want to fight with them, not against them. Respect.
 
Remember reading the autobiography of a former head of the French secret service ages ago (can't remember his name). When the services of the Gurkhas became surplus to requirements for the Crown - he tried to facilitate a deal with the Saudis. They were desiring their own 'Imperial Guard' mercenary force and the Gurkhas required employment. It didn't happen - the Saudis broke it off, but it it did that would be quite the journey.
 
The giant centipede is exactly like the little amber beastie that you find in civilised gardens,except that he is literally twenty times bigger. This baby was just short of sixteen inches,with a body as thick as a golf ball,and when he scuttled out with his pincers to the fore and his myriad legs going like the oars of a galley,the section dispersed at speed. He snaked out on the muddy ground and took stock of his position,and I for one was on top of the grub-box with a single bound.
"Doan't ga near it!" shouted Morton,as if anyone really wanted to. "The boogers is poisonous! If he nips ye ye've 'ad it"
"That's cobblers!" said Nick,keeping his distance. "There's nowt tae worry aboot unless 'e gets on ye - doan't try tae broosh 'im off backwards or 'e'll dig 'is claws intil ye, 'an there's 'oondreds 'on 'em,'an they'll fester! 'It 'im oop the arse 'an 'ei'll fall off 'eid foorst"
"'It him oop the arse yer'sel" cried Wattie "by will ye look at the 'oogly sod! That's it,Tommo, 'it 'im wid' yer dah"!
Corporal Peel had drawn his machete and was approaching the brute warily,for when it moved it scuttled like lightning. He took a swipe and missed,jumping back as Little-Many-Legs shot in his direction,and then it changed it's mind scurrying towards the grub-box,and nestling at one end as I left precipitately at the other. But I'm proud to say that even in my haste I hadn't lost sight of the interests of zoology.
"Tairo! Hold on" I cried "Don't kill it! It must be about two feet long-my God,I'll bet it's a record! If we can bottle the booger,and preserve it in petrol,it could be sent home to a museum. We might even" I added hopefully,appealing to their better instincts, "flog it. No kidding,the Imperial Science people would give their back teeth for it!"
I can only say that it seemed a good idea at the time,but the weight of opinion was against me, crying "Barmy Booger" and suggesting that why don't I catch it and bottle it myself. By then it was too late,Peel had bisected it neatly,but the top part continued to wriggle until he hit it again,after which it was beyond repair.I still think it was a pity,because when I measured the pieces the next morning (without touching them) they amounted to almost three times the the amount of tropical centipede previously known to science,six inches being the norm according to the encyclopaedia. It was a genuine monster,and possibly lethal, for all centipedes are poisonous to some degree,and if size is anything to go by then this one was in the cobra class!
 
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Just read the Chapter about "Captain Grief" and the PIAT. Just so funny and my sides are aching. Brilliant British Army humour that only those who lived it could possibly reproduce. It's left me in awe.
Those who have read it will know already and those who wish to a treat awaits. Brilliantly written book an absolute gem!
 
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