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been looking through some to see if anything stands out that point toward why we are shit. I wanted to see the distance as a team that we've ran compared to others but can't find it.

3 things

We're the second worst at completed crosses.

We're have done the 2nd least dribbles (normally wingers)

We've concede the 3rd most goals.

The first 2 l believe is the misuse of inverted wingers, the 3rd is down to Armartry.
 
But he never makes pro active substitutions at half time to make the opposition Manager think. He just waits for 60 minutes to tick by and screws everything up even more then.
 
Can anyone remember once where BR tried Barnes on the right wing? I can't. If I'm right, that is strange. Why wouldn't you even try it
 
Hes the worst manager we've ever had.

Its sounds extreme but think about it, no one as had a squad like he inherited and the backing he received.
 
Lestuhfox said:
The clown tells em to cut inside and try a tippy tappy wall pass that rarely comes off.
Barnes needs to get free from the clown to save his career.
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They cut inside because they are inverted wingers. They can’t cross with their weaker foot.
Don’t most PL teams play with inverted wingers? Isn’t it the overlapping fullback that actually crosses?

I think Barnes has popped up on the right in a few occasions, don’t remember him looking that great though.
 
hackneyfox said:
They cut inside because they are inverted wingers. They can’t cross with their weaker foot.
Don’t most PL teams play with inverted wingers? Isn’t it the overlapping fullback that actually crosses?

I think Barnes has popped up on the right in a few occasions, don’t remember him looking that great though.
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the idea is to switch and confuse the defenders. If you play that Cuntos way what advantage do you gain ! none, they just show them both outside.
 
Does any other team swap wingers from side to side regularly?
Did wingers like Weller or Glover play on both sides?
 
bnet said:
the idea is to switch and confuse the defenders. If you play that Cuntos way what advantage do you gain ! none, they just show them both outside.
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If we had decent wingers it would make sense, just think we’d end up with Barnes kicking the ball into both the opposition fullbacks and wondering why they didn’t magically disappear.
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hackneyfox said:
Does any other team swap wingers from side to side regularly?
Did wingers like Weller or Glover play on both sides?
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Mahrez & Albrighton used to switch I recall.

The problem is if you don’t change it every so often, then the other team have pretty much sussed that you have a one-dimensional way of playing.
 
hackneyfox said:
Does any other team swap wingers from side to side regularly?
Did wingers like Weller or Glover play on both sides?
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Why do they have to do the same as “other teams”? Why not do something a bit different when the de-fault isnt working? The Don did, abd that didnt go badly.
 
I do remember that a lot of Leicester fans sat around us weren't huge fans of his, Glos & I used to sit there and shake our heads.
That Gary Lineker bloke wasn't much good on the wing though, or Harry kane.
 
hackneyfox said:
Does any other team swap wingers from side to side regularly?
Did wingers like Weller or Glover play on both sides?
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hackneyfox said:
Did Guppy switch?
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hackneyfox said:
Just pointing out was is 'currently' accepted thinking wwhen it comes to wingers.
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Sorry but what has any of this got to do with anything?

The comparisons are apples & oranges (I mean, if you want a comparison I guess you could try Paul Reid who once tried on the right was condemned to play there evermore whilst with us) and surely accepted thinking = predictable.

I'm all for trying it though occasionally to give the oppo something different to think about though honestly I am not sure that switching will have a dramatic impact as I don't suppose the ball will get to the wide men any quicker and as shown at Old Trafford even if it did and they were getting outside and crossing, it is pretty fucking pointless when your main striker is hanging around 10 yards outside the box waiting for a 2nd ball that will never come because he's the one supposed to be challenging to create the 2nd ball. On the other hand allowing the fullbacks to stay back is probably not a bad thing given our inability to defend.
 
hackneyfox said:
They cut inside because they are inverted wingers. They can’t cross with their weaker foot.
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Which in itself is a huge problem. I get players will usually have a dominant foot, but I'll never understand why professional footballers can't use both feet to do the basics. Makes it far too predictable and easy to defend against if you know a winger is always going to cut inside as they can't use their weaker foot...
 
bnet said:
they weren't inverted wingers, left footers on the left, right footers on the right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My point was that if they didn't swap sides, as you wanted a left footed winger on the left, why are we hoping to see our 'inverted wingers' swap sides every now and again. Managers seem to follow the trend of the day and therefore wingers get used to a way of playing.
Defenders in the past knew that a winger would always go wide.
 
hackneyfox said:
My point was that if they didn't swap sides, as you wanted a left footed winger on the left, why are we hoping to see our 'inverted wingers' swap sides every now and again. Managers seem to follow the trend of the day and therefore wingers get used to a way of playing.
Defenders in the past knew that a winger would always go wide.
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And now full-backs know (particularly with our 'wingers') they can give them acres of space knowing full well they aren't going to drop their shoulders & run past them to put a cross into the danger area (like Guppy used to).
 
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