Hey thicko. Did LBJ start the Vietnam War? No. But he sure is responsible for making a hell of a mess of it once he 'went for it'. Ditto Libya and Obama and H Clinton.Did Obama start the Libyan Civil War?
All on record. There's a differnce between kissing a kid, I do it often, it's what normal people do, and being a nonce. People who can't see the differnce are creepy.Trump tends to 'big up' any person he spends time with, socially or in business, it's his way.
He banned Epstein from his resorts and, effectively his presence, in 2007/8.
Hey thicko. Did LBJ start the Vietnam War? No. But he sure is responsible for making a hell of a mess of it once he 'went for it'. Ditto Libya and Obama and H Clinton.
Point 1. "only"?
I'll say it again thicko.Look at the title of the thread, before throwing insults around. You're looking for the word "start" if that helps. So we discuss wars started by Presidents. Does that make sense?
When did H Clinton start a war?
You do realise that the USA continues to bomb Libya, that hasn't stopped under trumpI'll say it again thicko.
Trump ain't started 'a war' with Iran. It didn't happen.
Try looking at the title of a thread before you reply.
Okay, I probably made a 'word' mistake with my reply too.
But let's get back to YOUR words.
"Did Obama start the Libyan Civil War?"
How could Obama start the Libyan Civil war?? He ain't a fucking Libyan. Total BS reply.
But you did know exactly what he started and you knew exactly what I meant, but you're more interested in scoring points and trying to look clever.
Obama could and did decide to get the US involved in a war in Libya.
Go read up on it. HC was a driving force in the whole thing.
If you look at all of these leaders over a period of time, once the truth gets out, I'm sure you'll see there was loads of stuff going on, not just overtly, but covertly. With Trump, with the stuff that happened overtly, no one had any time time for it cpet the neo cons, the dems and the usual crew on msm. He was called 'weak' for not doing more. So no ones satisfied with him. But how about sharing with us all of this info on the continuous bombing campaign in Libya. I'm open to everything.You do realise that the USA continues to bomb Libya, that hasn't stopped under tr
Continues, not continuous.If you look at all of these leaders over a period of time, once the truth gets out, I'm sure you'll see there was loads of stuff going on, not just overtly, but covertly. With Trump, with the stuff that happened overtly, no one had any time time for it cpet the neo cons, the dems and the usual crew on msm. He was called 'weak' for not doing more. So no ones satisfied with him. But how about sharing with us all of this info on the continuous bombing campaign in Libya. I'm open to everything.
Good stuff. Come on then give us a link.Continues, not continuous.
2017 Edit
18–19 January – US B-2 bombers target and neutralize 80–90 ISIL affiliates.
22– September strikes on an ISIL camp killing over 17 militants and destroying 3 vehicles.[64]
26 September – Multiple ISIL militants targeted during precision strikes.
17 November – One airstrike on ISIL affiliates.[65]
19–2 November airstrikes near Fuqaha.[66]
2018 Edit
30 March – First airstrike conducted against AQIM. The strike kills "two al Qaeda terrorists, including Musa Abu Dawud, a high ranking al-Qa'ida in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) official."[67]
2019 Edit
7 April – The US military announced it has withdrawn all of its ground forces from Libya at the time due to renewed fighting in the civil war there. But said that it will keep intelligence and surveillance UAVs in the region to track terrorists[68]
19 September- a Drone strike killed 8 Islamic State militants in town of Murzuq.[69]
24 September - a Drone strike killed 11 Islamic State Militants near town of Murzuq.[70]
28 September- a Drone strike killed 17 Islamic State militants in south Libya.[71]
Your welcome
Continues, not continuous.
2017 Edit
18–19 January – US B-2 bombers target and neutralize 80–90 ISIL affiliates.
22– September strikes on an ISIL camp killing over 17 militants and destroying 3 vehicles.[64]
26 September – Multiple ISIL militants targeted during precision strikes.
17 November – One airstrike on ISIL affiliates.[65]
19–2 November airstrikes near Fuqaha.[66]
2018 Edit
30 March – First airstrike conducted against AQIM. The strike kills "two al Qaeda terrorists, including Musa Abu Dawud, a high ranking al-Qa'ida in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) official."[67]
2019 Edit
7 April – The US military announced it has withdrawn all of its ground forces from Libya at the time due to renewed fighting in the civil war there. But said that it will keep intelligence and surveillance UAVs in the region to track terrorists[68]
19 September- a Drone strike killed 8 Islamic State militants in town of Murzuq.[69]
24 September - a Drone strike killed 11 Islamic State Militants near town of Murzuq.[70]
28 September- a Drone strike killed 17 Islamic State militants in south Libya.[71]
Your welcome
Looks like a cut and paste from a Wikipedia page, I expect easy enough to googleGood stuff. Come on then give us a link.
It a false premise though isn't it and completely hypothetical.All of it out there man. Good stuff. I'm not here to defend a lot of Trump's foreign adventures. I've never supported what he did, up to a point. And the term ISIS can be thrown around easily. They should get out of most places. That's my way of thinking. It's all wrong.
But humor me here a minute.
What do you think? Which of these three groups are wrongest?
1. GWB and all of his croanies starting wars and destroying at least one society. Iraq.
Result, chaos, civil war and groups terrorizing locals.
2. BO and HC and JB joining in wars around North Africa and helping to destroy at least one society. Libya.
Result, more chaos and groups terrorizing locals.
3. DJT, not destroying a country, but taking out ISIS who entered the vacuum created by the last two presidencies.
Possible result, taking out psychotic groups terrorizing locals.
Let me know what you think.
It pretty sick really, cuntsSome people make a lot of wealth from war.
BS.It a false premise though isn't it and completely hypothetical.
The question should be: faced with the same circumstances how would different leaders respond.
So far trump hasn't been faced with situations that lead to sending the troops in. But he has ramped up attacks across Africa and the Middle East.
The GWB situation was inevitable once the towers came down, the pride of the us was hurt and they were always going to show the world how big and strong they are.
In think that trump or any other US president would have done the same, for that matter if the tories had been in power at the time they would have to.
Can we keep him? please@RubberDoug - i'm intrigued. care to tell me your username on the old site?
I think we should. After all, we still have you.Can we keep him? please
Difficult call though sixth'. it has always been Trump policy to cut US involvement in the region but but he has been blocked at every turn by the Intelligence services, Military and the 'deep state' in general.Most of the recent wars in the Middle East have been about oil and energy source protection. They have just been dressed up to be about something else, like WMD, or Bin Laden, Saddam, Taliban or ISIS.
Trump has continued to protect these assets, but in a hissy fit is planning to withdraw these protections on the eve of leaving office. Which will sadly lead to more chaos and conflict.