Club_B00k_Crutchless
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Anyway, once Trump has been dragged out by his toupee and we're in the sunlit uplands of Brexit Land, what are we going to do about the climate crisis?
Next year
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Club_B00k_Crutchless
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Squeezing the last remaining drops out of the rocks. Never mind what it supposedly also causes, then what?
AFCDorset
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It doesn't cause anything. Man made global warming is not real. Good short to medium term solution.
Then nuclear, 'small modular reactors'. Rolls Royce have the technology and they can be built in the UK. An array of 4/5 smr's produce as much power as the new Hinckley point. Proven technology, British and safe.
Then nuclear, 'small modular reactors'. Rolls Royce have the technology and they can be built in the UK. An array of 4/5 smr's produce as much power as the new Hinckley point. Proven technology, British and safe.
Club_B00k_Crutchless
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So you don't think melting ice at the poles and glaciers, coral dying etc is a result of human activity?
Short to medium term solutions are no good, and what about the waste from nuclear power? Just keep dropping it into the deep sea for future generations?
We need to invest heavily in renewable energy, wave and wind power for a start.
Short to medium term solutions are no good, and what about the waste from nuclear power? Just keep dropping it into the deep sea for future generations?
We need to invest heavily in renewable energy, wave and wind power for a start.
AFCDorset
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There is no evidence to suggest that the melting ice is anything other than part of the normal cycle, ice melts in some areas, increases in others, it is normal. It is all to do with the solar cycle.
Coral is a living entity, it lives, it grows, it dies back. I have been a reef driver since the 1980s, there are issues damaging the reefs but they are local and down to development and local polution, not global climate change.
SMRs are a short to medium term solution granted, but they are well developed technology and waste is minimal compared to our current reactors which are primarily 'military'. They are designed to produce plenty of fissionable material for weapons and dangerous nuclear waste is largely a function of that.
Even better would be the switch to Thorium 'molton salt' reactors, far cheaper, safer and more productive with even less waste. Not used for the simple reason that they do not produce fissionable material.
Renewables will produce too little and at too high a cost. Energy will become a luxury.
Coral is a living entity, it lives, it grows, it dies back. I have been a reef driver since the 1980s, there are issues damaging the reefs but they are local and down to development and local polution, not global climate change.
SMRs are a short to medium term solution granted, but they are well developed technology and waste is minimal compared to our current reactors which are primarily 'military'. They are designed to produce plenty of fissionable material for weapons and dangerous nuclear waste is largely a function of that.
Even better would be the switch to Thorium 'molton salt' reactors, far cheaper, safer and more productive with even less waste. Not used for the simple reason that they do not produce fissionable material.
Renewables will produce too little and at too high a cost. Energy will become a luxury.
hackneyfox
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Well what a surprise.
jackieguaccamo
Flat Earther
Remember in the 80's when we were all going to burn to death as the planet was heating up.
It's all bollocks.
It's all bollocks.
AFCDorset
Roofer
We are at the start of a solar minimum. The scale and cycles of the sun's output are only recently being studied, but they change over years, decades even centuries.
The science on this is still developing, that we are heading into a minimum is undeniable but the length and depth of the temperature drop is still being debated and calculated.
To cut back on our energy generating capacity at such a time is not good. I believe that strongly enough that, I would be 'heading south' by the end of next year if it is at all possible.
Club_B00k_Crutchless
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Solar minimums don't affect the Earth's temperature to the extent we're experiencing. It's pretty much proven that the increase on CO2 since industrialisation has caused the greenhouse effect and increasing temperatures.
Not quite to that level but they were correct, and it's continuing.
You may be right but they haven't worked out how to harness it yet and we need to be cracking on.
AFCDorset
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Club book, your concern does you credit but you are being 'sold a pup'.
Solar minima caused the last ice age that ended some 40,000 years ago, a warm period allowed the Romans to grow vines in the north of England and we had malarial marshland in the south. It was also instrumental in the deforestation in large parts of northern Africa, which interestingly is recovering in some areas due to the increase in CO2.
In the later Middle Ages we had a colder period that is well documented (ice fairs etc) and we may well be moving to into something similar. The sun has numerous different 'cycles' and sometimes the will diverge and sometimes reinforce. The science is new and not enough is known to offer precise predictions, the next decade or two will be very interesting.
Solar minima caused the last ice age that ended some 40,000 years ago, a warm period allowed the Romans to grow vines in the north of England and we had malarial marshland in the south. It was also instrumental in the deforestation in large parts of northern Africa, which interestingly is recovering in some areas due to the increase in CO2.
In the later Middle Ages we had a colder period that is well documented (ice fairs etc) and we may well be moving to into something similar. The sun has numerous different 'cycles' and sometimes the will diverge and sometimes reinforce. The science is new and not enough is known to offer precise predictions, the next decade or two will be very interesting.
Club_B00k_Crutchless
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Who's selling me a pup? Given that billions of dollars are being made in the petrochemical industry, who stands to benefit from this pup?
AFCDorset
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The 'Climate Change' industry. 100% of paid climate change scientists support climate change...
Your second question though is genuinely interesting. I have some theories on that, but they are pretty wild, even for me.
hackneyfox
Roofer
100% of climate change denying scientists are paid by the oil industry.
AFCDorset
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Fair call, 'cui bono' is always worth investigating.
That the oil/energy business is deeply corrupt is another fact that is, to me, entirely 'self evident'.
There is stuff going on that is way above my pay grade and I suspect the pay grade of anyone on here.
I often describe what is happening as being like the layers of an onion, but in this case every layer is different and often contradicts what we learn from the adjacent layer.
That the oil/energy business is deeply corrupt is another fact that is, to me, entirely 'self evident'.
There is stuff going on that is way above my pay grade and I suspect the pay grade of anyone on here.
I often describe what is happening as being like the layers of an onion, but in this case every layer is different and often contradicts what we learn from the adjacent layer.