From the official Notts Forest Twitter/X account

But Mark Clattenburg (who we pay handsomely) has deemed this to be the case. I’ll scweem and scweem until I’m sick.
 
No remind me why do they play Mull of Kintyre every home game
Was it released the last time they won ‘owt😀
 
I have to say I admire them for this. They're only saying what everyone knows - VAR is there for the top 6.
Other clubs should have the balls to say it.
 
They were 3 stonewall pens in today’s world. They have a point but they’ll get a massive fine for this. Maybe another point deduction?
 
Surely no referee with any allegiances should officiate PL matches involving their team. The only three known potential conflicts of interest are Attwell with Luton, Pawson with Sheff Utd and Oliver with Newcastle. As none of those three have on-field officiated their teams matches this season its safe to assume that VAR for some bizarre reason is exempt. Premier League/PGMOL incompetence in the extreme.
Well done Notts ;) Forest
 
Yorkfox said:
Surely no referee with any allegiances should officiate PL matches involving their team. The only three known potential conflicts of interest are Attwell with Luton, Pawson with Sheff Utd and Oliver with Newcastle. As none of those three have on-field officiated their teams matches this season its safe to assume that VAR for some bizarre reason is exempt. Premier League/PGMOL incompetence in the extreme.
Well done Notts ;) Forest
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There isn't one VAR, there is a team per game, so the conspiracy theorists will have a tough job convincing people that Attwell could manipulte the others in the team.

How many off the incidents were clear and obvious errors?
 
Stuart Attwell was the VAR. Whether he has people helping him on offside technical stuff or spotting incidents it is he who makes the call and he surely shouldnt be in that position for situations such as this.
 
TartanFox said:
There isn't one VAR, there is a team per game, so the conspiracy theorists will have a tough job convincing people that Attwell could manipulte the others in the team.

How many off the incidents were clear and obvious errors?
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I'd say all three were clear pens under the current rules. If they'd been awarded, there would be no controversy. By contrast, Coventry's offside goal yesterday was as marginal as it gets, but VAR still overruled the on field decision.

I don't blame Forest for feeling aggrieved. It will be interesting to see how the FA deals with it - if they just punish Forest without acknowledging they have a point about the decisions, they'll just provide more fuel for the conspiracy theories...
 
Yorkfox said:
Stuart Attwell was the VAR. Whether he has people helping him on offside technical stuff or spotting incidents it is he who makes the call and he surely shouldnt be in that position for situations such as this.
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Who says he is a Luton fan?

When they released the audio of the 'error' in the Spurs vs Liverpool match earlier this season all the VAR officials were involved in discussions and there is someone with oversight of the 'VAR' on the day. So at the minute I am struggling to see where this cheating of Forest exists.

As it goes I don't think Attwell is that good as a referee full stop, but that's not the charge levelled at him by Forest.
 
ClaphamFox said:
I'd say all three were clear pens under the current rules. If they'd been awarded, there would be no controversy. By contrast, Coventry's offside goal yesterday was as marginal as it gets, but VAR still overruled the on field decision.

I don't blame Forest for feeling aggrieved. It will be interesting to see how the FA deals with it - if they just punish Forest without acknowledging they have a point about the decisions, they'll just provide more fuel for the conspiracy theories...
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The Coventry decision was a binary, offside or onside, there are only 2 outcomes, even mark Robins accepts it was offside.

As for the penalties, they remain subjective and open to the 'clear and obvious error' scope afforded for these scenarios. The interpretation of which is open to a multitude of opinions. This is where the authorities have muddled the whole thing, and anything that has Howard Webb's finger prints on it will not end well.
 
TartanFox said:
The Coventry decision was a binary, offside or onside, there are only 2 outcomes, even mark Robins accepts it was offside.

As for the penalties, they remain subjective and open to the 'clear and obvious error' scope afforded for these scenarios. The interpretation of which is open to a multitude of opinions. This is where the authorities have muddled the whole thing, and anything that has Howard Webb's finger prints on it will not end well.
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Yes - fair point about offside being a binary decision. But those penalty appeals from Forest didn't look marginal to me. We'd be livid if that had happened to us.
 
The challenge from behind with the right angles that the VAR had access to was as clear as you could get. The handballs I struggle to judge as I disagree so vehemently with the rules
 
ClaphamFox said:
Yes - fair point about offside being a binary decision. But those penalty appeals from Forest didn't look marginal to me. We'd be livid if that had happened to us.
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We probably would be, but the charge levelled towards Attwell is about his integrity and not about his competence, of which there is an entire back catalogue of evidence that would back up Forest had they gone down that path.

But they didn't and also besmirched Luton Town, who have done naff all wrong, other than getting tanked at home by Brentford.
 
It is an interesting angle that F***** have adopted.
They think an alleged Luton Town fan, would grant more points to Everton than to themselves.
Even though Everton face a slightly bigger points deduction and if those reductions stand, are more likely to be relegated.
Why would a Luton fan want Everton to have more points toward safety, from this game?
I think F***** will have to explain the logic there, if Attwell sues them...
 
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