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Could you take the knee

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The players get asked the question.

The players give a reasonable answer.

People refuse to believe or accept the answer.

Suggests the players aren’t the problem.
bovine rear end excretion stuff, you twats believe anything don't you.
 

Pen4

Steward
The players get asked the question.

The players give a reasonable answer.

People refuse to believe or accept the answer.

Suggests the players aren’t the problem.
The players are generally ignorant, stupid and ill-informed

The FA and Clubs got mugged on this whole issue and have been back peddling ever since.
 

mac

Gold Bellend
."There is no right or wrong decision, but for me personally I feel kneeling has just become a part of the pre-match routine and at the moment it doesn’t matter whether we kneel or stand, some of us still continue to receive abuse."
 

Richardvanles

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So had they said “We’re not going to do it - it has too many negative connotations”, I’m guessing you’d be commending them on their intelligence?
It’s a deflection. It’s the establishment who should be on their knees, they are the ones who’ve created the ghettos, they’re the ones who have failed black people with little investment in education and recreational activities in those areas. They are the ones who shove the latest trends down people’s throats and make sure they’re out of reach of the underclass. They’re the ones who ensure that injustices are ignored and rather than take responsibility for their actions and inactions they blame the white man and expect him to shoulder the blame and repent on their knee. They can fuck right off!
 

Pen4

Steward
So had they said “We’re not going to do it - it has too many negative connotations”, I’m guessing you’d be commending them on their intelligence?
So you want me to comment on something that hasn't happened and most likely will never happen. I prefer to comment on actions that have been taken and my opinion on them.

If it does happen it won't be because a footballer has taken the time to grasp the issues so no, I won't be commending them. It will be because their 'advisors ' judge that the positive impact on their brand is becoming negative,

Is that clear enough?

Anyway why are you asking me questions when you dodge even the simple ones?
 

Club_B00k_Crutchless

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So little research
Here we go again. How much research have you done on the subject? You don't need much "research" if you listen to what people say about it, read their blogs, Twitter accounts and talk to real people.

You have a fixed idea, an opinion of what it is. You won't accept anything from the people who are actually doing it.
 

Club_B00k_Crutchless

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."There is no right or wrong decision, but for me personally I feel kneeling has just become a part of the pre-match routine and at the moment it doesn’t matter whether we kneel or stand, some of us still continue to receive abuse."
I agree. It's got to a point where they probably want to stop doing it but need a way to do so. However, the fact they are still getting abuse and people boo them doing clearly shows things need to change. What else can they do?


It’s a deflection. It’s the establishment who should be on their knees, they are the ones who’ve created the ghettos, they’re the ones who have failed black people with little investment in education and recreational activities in those areas. They are the ones who shove the latest trends down people’s throats and make sure they’re out of reach of the underclass. They’re the ones who ensure that injustices are ignored and rather than take responsibility for their actions and inactions they blame the white man and expect him to shoulder the blame and repent on their knee. They can fuck right off!
I agree with some of that but how can they challenge the establishment? At least it's better than doing nothing. It obviously gets people thinking about it a bit, seeing as some applaud and some boo. Keep chipping away.
 

Richardvanles

Season Ticket Holder
I agree. It's got to a point where they probably want to stop doing it but need a way to do so. However, the fact they are still getting abuse and people boo them doing clearly shows things need to change. What else can they do?



I agree with some of that but how can they challenge the establishment? At least it's better than doing nothing. It obviously gets people thinking about it a bit, seeing as some applaud and some boo. Keep chipping away.
It annoys me that it’s a way for the establishment not only not to take responsibility of their actions and inactions it’s shifting the guilt onto the white man and sticking a wedge between the working class. If you don’t agree with it you’re labelled a racist when generally nothing could be further than the truth. Taking a knee is historically a sign of submissiveness and that’s what folk see.
 

Pen4

Steward
Because you’ve demonstrated that even when someone gives you a response, you don’t believe them.

Hope that gives you absolute clarity & that you’re no longer confused.
But you haven't given me a response to a simple direct question that I have asked many times

I don't believe many of the assertions made by some on here and when I have asked for evidence they have failed to come up to proof.

Thus my lack of belief is re- enforced by facts or rather the inability of some to back up vacuous assertions with evidence.

Anyway, I find it sad that you are not confident in your own skin enough to answer the question. But as you seem happy to be vague on how you identify your Nationalty, talk about 'Flag Shaggers' and bleat about racism, I will draw my own conclusions.
 
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