C'Mon - What These Owners Have Done For Us!!!

Sohofox

Sohofox

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Since 2010 - surely we'd all have taken this current mess if we'd known in 2010 we were gonna win what we have over the next 14 years????
Think of those CL trips, Bocelli singing his heart out, the Tielemans goal at Wembley.
Never, ever did I even remotely believe these things could happen to us.
So come what may - even if its years in the doldrums - I can't ever thank these Thai guys enough.
We've lived the dream. And now its over. Wake up time to this cruel world.
Thats life.
Thanks Vichai and family.
Its been magical.
Love you all!
 
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Sohofox said:
Since 2010 - surely we'd all have taken this current mess if we'd known in 2010 we were gonna win what we have over the next 14 years????
Think of those CL trips, Bocelli singing his heart out, the Tielemans goal at Wembley.
Never, ever did I even remotely believe these things could happen to us.
So come what may - even if its years in the doldrums - I can't ever thank these Thai guys enough.
We've lived the dream. And now its over. Wake up time to this cruel world.
Thats life.
Thanks Vichai and family.
Its been magical.
Love you all!
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Thai Guys 🤣🤣 that’s a Georgism if there ever was one 😘🤣🤣
 
Far be it from me argue with my learned friend and founder member of this board but think back to how this glorious era started.

To make the club more attractive to new owners, Mandaric - who I do not knock because having fucked up with Olly then got us out of L1 with the NP appointment - then mistakenly appointed a so called better manager in Sousa, unfairly binning NP who had done a fantastic job getting us straight back from the ignomy of L1. We all know how that worked out.

Then our new owners went for a so called marquee manager in Sven who signed a load of so called star players like Beckford and Mills who were useless so to give credit to them they then reappointed NP. They didn't give him a massive budget but he got us back into the PL.

The team which fantastically won the PL was basically NP's team with the addition of Kante and good management by the Don. No great investment by the owners. Plenty of money invested by them since but a lot on duds.
 
OldFox said:
They didn't give him a massive budget but he got us back into the PL.
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Relative to recent transfer fees the budget was tiny of course but It was still pretty substantial compared to most in the division and at a time when we were still making huge loses. More importantly the hit rate on those players we did bring in for a fee under NP's 2nd spell was impressively high (in the space of 2 and a half seasons pre-promotion; Morgan, Drinkwater, De Laet, James, Vardy, Knockaert & Mahrez most notably and Hammond, Marshall & Wood weren't exactly flops either though Marshall in particular struggled after a promising start).
 
buz_not_buzz said:
Relative to recent transfer fees the budget was tiny of course but It was still pretty substantial compared to most in the division and at a time when we were still making huge loses. More importantly the hit rate on those players we did bring in for a fee under NP's 2nd spell was impressively high (in the space of 2 and a half seasons pre-promotion; Morgan, Drinkwater, De Laet, James, Vardy, Knockaert & Mahrez most notably and Hammond, Marshall & Wood weren't exactly flops either though Marshall in particular struggled after a promising start).
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My memory is not so good so you would have to remind me but I don't remember any big fees, even for those times, except for Ulloa. Why were we making big losses with sell out crowds? Was it Sven's spending?
 
buz_not_buzz said:
Relative to recent transfer fees the budget was tiny of course but It was still pretty substantial compared to most in the division and at a time when we were still making huge loses. More importantly the hit rate on those players we did bring in for a fee under NP's 2nd spell was impressively high (in the space of 2 and a half seasons pre-promotion; Morgan, Drinkwater, De Laet, James, Vardy, Knockaert & Mahrez most notably and Hammond, Marshall & Wood weren't exactly flops either though Marshall in particular struggled after a promising start).
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Don't forget big Waz
 
OldFox said:
My memory is not so good so you would have to remind me but I don't remember any big fees, even for those times, except for Ulloa. Why were we making big losses with sell out crowds? Was it Sven's spending?
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Obviously they were not big fees compared to what we have been spending recently (and not big compared to what Sven was allowed to spend at the start of 2011/12 from which you'd have to say only Schmeichel and possibly Konchesky can be viewed in a positive light). You wouldn't have thought "wow, they are breaking the bank". Most appear to have been £750k-£1m (Ulloa was post-promotion). But my point was that it wasn't insignificant in the context of the times though to concede to your point, despite being a complete load of duffers we still managed to make a net accounting profit on the sales of the unwanted, so that helped raise funds.

As for the losses, yes, Sven's spending had a significant impact but by the time the start of the promotion season came around the duffers were all out the door and we still made a £20m loss on £31m turnover in that season (and there were very few sell outs even then). In a foreshadowing of a decade later I'd say that the wage bill was a significant factor (being 100% or over of turnover in both seasons).
 
Will Hay said:
Don't forget big Waz
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Yeah but he was a freebie I think. Our record with freebies and loans (especially) was a bit more variable but when you look at who it appears we paid for over the course of those 2 and a half Championship seasons, what we paid for them and the contributions they made it really is an impressive success rate.
 
The fact is we had a really great business model. It worked.

We then started chasing the dream to maybe become a top 6 team, spent far too much money on what turned out to be fairly rubbish players and paying them far too much money (same with our manager) and now it’s all imploded big time.

I don’t blame us for chasing that dream, but someone should have had their eye on the finances.
 
Vichai was a great man, he knew how to spot an opportunity when it came
his way.Once he had learnt the ins and outs of running a football club
he was not a fool.He could handle people treated every body with respect,
but unfortunatly for us he was the brains behind King Power. With his loss
some body had to step up, but no body has, this is why the club is having these
problems, the club needs a leader from some where, it needs restructuring
or it will slip into football obscurity
 
buz_not_buzz said:
Relative to recent transfer fees the budget was tiny of course but It was still pretty substantial compared to most in the division and at a time when we were still making huge loses. More importantly the hit rate on those players we did bring in for a fee under NP's 2nd spell was impressively high (in the space of 2 and a half seasons pre-promotion; Morgan, Drinkwater, De Laet, James, Vardy, Knockaert & Mahrez most notably and Hammond, Marshall & Wood weren't exactly flops either though Marshall in particular struggled after a promising start).
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Hammond, as in Elvis? Are you having a laugh?
 
Breadfan said:
Hammond, as in Elvis? Are you having a laugh?
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Hampshirefox said:
Dean, but he didn't play much I don't think.
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Yes, Dean but, still, amusing to see that the mere mention of the surname appears to have undone years of no doubt intense therapy for Breadfan.

Mainly used from the bench in the promotion season and played a part in the first PL season (including all 90 minutes in the 5-3 against Man United). Never the fastest and I guess you'd call him steady at best but by no means a flop.
 
You could see some time ago that when Top had to put his hand in his pocket for over 100 million some years back to bail the club out the shit. That then should have raised the alarm bells, but little was done to rectify the problem since. Some failure of financial management that.
 
buz_not_buzz said:
Yes, Dean but, still, amusing to see that the mere mention of the surname appears to have undone years of no doubt intense therapy for Breadfan.

Mainly used from the bench in the promotion season and played a part in the first PL season (including all 90 minutes in the 5-3 against Man United). Never the fastest and I guess you'd call him steady at best but by no means a flop.
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For some reason I always likened him to a marginal upgrade on Junior Lewis! Seeing some of these names is all quite disturbing Buz and I'll be back at my therapist pronto.
As a parting shot I will raise you Jimmy Casino Nielson...
Oh no it has set me off again.
Zsolt Laczko anyone?!
 
Whilst Top has the desk where the buck stops, few on here have condemned him.
But our executive is clearly not up the the job now, if it ever was.
We hear that player trading is our business model and under the Pearson /Walsh regime
we were regarded as the best at it.
Since then we have been overtaken by the Brentfords and Brightons and even spent
a window without a man in charge of our supposed main business department.
Now it is like N. Korea as a deafenig silence reigns. FFS someone get a grip.
 
buz_not_buzz said:
Yes, Dean but, still, amusing to see that the mere mention of the surname appears to have undone years of no doubt intense therapy for Breadfan.

Mainly used from the bench in the promotion season and played a part in the first PL season (including all 90 minutes in the 5-3 against Man United). Never the fastest and I guess you'd call him steady at best but by no means a flop.
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buz_not_buzz said:
Yes, Dean but, still, amusing to see that the mere mention of the surname appears to have undone years of no doubt intense therapy for Breadfan.

Mainly used from the bench in the promotion season and played a part in the first PL season (including all 90 minutes in the 5-3 against Man United). Never the fastest and I guess you'd call him steady at best but by no means a flop.
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Wasn't Dean Hammond our loans manager at one point?
 
AlgarFox said:
You could see some time ago that when Top had to put his hand in his pocket for over 100 million some years back to bail the club out the shit. That then should have raised the alarm bells, but little was done to rectify the problem since. Some failure of financial management that.
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Vichai did something similar as well...from memory.
 
sixthswan said:
Vichai did something similar as well...from memory.
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Not from memory (don't tell JG but the internet can be useful sometimes) but, yes, that happened in 2013 (about £105m). Top has previously given (a) personal loan(s) I believe but the vast majority of funding has been from the parent group in the form of loans (for which note KP obviously receive interest) that have then subsequently in effect been converted into equity (reducing the debt to KP accordingly).
 
And to think that some supposedly bright posters on here were busy denying – until quite recently – that selling a player each summer was the bedrock of our business model.
The problem with that is the need to recruit young players very skilfully, in addition to producing some of your own. Brighton are in the midst of a tremendous run of doing so but, like with Brentford will aftar Toney leaves, that pipeline may run dry. That said, the guy who scored the winner against us (for Prague, was it?) a few years back will be in their squad next season after two or three years of regular-game loans inc Rangers this season, so I reckon they've a good few seasons left to thrive.....
 
We must be the only club in football history, who won the League and then had to limit our spending...
Yes we could buy new players, but we had to be careful with wages and therefore had limits on the type of players we could purchase.
Which is why we had some expensive duds.
FFP and PSR must surely be anti-competitive and hopefully we can smash the rules...the People's Club...
Though it's all corrupt, so...
 
There have to be rules but currently they are totally regressive and favour the BCCs....but even then they seek to cheat.

Somehow a system which is designed to help "smaller clubs" compete on a more level playing field is needed.

Only x7 teams have ever won the Premier League and only one came from nowhere.
It's all unfairly weighted and needs huge changes applied. Good luck with that.
No wonder we were 5000 to 1
 
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