Good. Hopefully it will dilute the Tory vote even further.As an anti-lockdown party called reform uk.
it’s almost as if they know where the gullible people will donate to.
No, his is called re-claim. That's what i meant by further diluting the Tory vote as they'll no doubt be attracting many of the Brexit voters who went to the tories.Isn't this the actor Laurence Fox's party that is rising up against the whole BLM agenda and claims that it wants to give the silent majority a voice?
There was some noise about this over a month ago.
Is there an election coming up then.....Good. Hopefully it will dilute the Tory vote even further.
Why do you think they are forming the parties then? Just for show? Or maybe fight an election when there is one?Is there an election coming up then.....
Ah a bite straight the way.....Why do you think they are forming the parties then? Just for show? Or maybe fight an election when there is one?
Controlled opposition.Why do you think they are forming the parties then? Just for show? Or maybe fight an election when there is one?
Are you 6?Ah a bite straight the way.....
Agreed it would be nice to have a real opposition party to hold the government to account. Real people with the country at Heart.Controlled opposition.
We already have what is a defacto one party state, with the exception of a few Labour MPs who actually do have real, hard left views, and a handful of genuine conservatives, who keep very quiet about everything.
Everyone else fits quite tidily into what the europeans usually call Social Democrats.
I think I know whose nearer.......Are you 6
You think Farage is a 'real'person?Agreed it would be nice to have a real opposition party to hold the government to account. Real people with the country at Heart.
He smokes & drinks = qualification as a "real" person.Agreed it would be nice to have a real opposition party to hold the government to account. Real people with the country at Heart.
Your entitled to your opinion, but people are only gullible in your eyes because you dislike everything about Farage.He smokes & drinks = qualification as a "real" person.
In reality, nothing but a person with his own interests as a priority. That he's hoodwinked so many into supporting him financially & politically, tells you how gullible the British public is.
I can't quite get my head round the fact that you see it as a 'magnificent effort', particularly in the context of a 'no deal' since Farage is not going to suffer any of the negatives that the rest of us will, pandemic or otherwise.Farage is the epitome of the 'single issue' politician.
Giving the country a chance of getting out of the EU was, for me, a quite magnificent effort, and for that he will forever have my gratitude.
Since the referendum he as become largely irrelevant, mostly down to his own poor decision making.
Thats OK MM.I can't quite get my head round the fact that you see it as a 'magnificent effort', particularly in the context of a 'no deal' since Farage is not going to suffer any of the negatives that the rest of us will, pandemic or otherwise.
The irony of the man who stopped our 'freedom of movement', now relaunching his company (& it's a company, not a party regardless of what anyone thinks) because he thinks intra-Britain freedom of movement is limited by the lockdown measures, is not lost.
Freedom of movement and travel are completely different things.Thats OK MM.
I appreciate that it is difficult for you to get your 'head round the fact' that others have a different opinion on such matters, I totally understand, after all, having different views is not exactly 'progressive'.
Personally I can't wait to get back to the pre-EU system of the 70s and 80s when, shock horror, you had to carry a passport in order to travel, work and holiday in Europe as I did for much of those decades.
It might also remind a few people of the times when you needed such documents to enter another country, rather better than the system we have now that allows any thug or criminal to enter virtually without restriction.
I'd say the way I was talking about the subject was in a much broader sense, rather than just the fact that you carry around certain documents or criminals that happened to get through, as you mention.Thats OK MM.
I appreciate that it is difficult for you to get your 'head round the fact' that others have a different opinion on such matters, I totally understand, after all, having different views is not exactly 'progressive'.
Personally I can't wait to get back to the pre-EU system of the 70s and 80s when, shock horror, you had to carry a passport in order to travel, work and holiday in Europe as I did for much of those decades.
It might also remind a few people of the times when you needed such documents to enter another country, rather better than the system we have now that allows any thug or criminal to enter virtually without restriction.
When did you last enter Europe without a passport?Thats OK MM.
I appreciate that it is difficult for you to get your 'head round the fact' that others have a different opinion on such matters, I totally understand, after all, having different views is not exactly 'progressive'.
Personally I can't wait to get back to the pre-EU system of the 70s and 80s when, shock horror, you had to carry a passport in order to travel, work and holiday in Europe as I did for much of those decades.
It might also remind a few people of the times when you needed such documents to enter another country, rather better than the system we have now that allows any thug or criminal to enter virtually without restriction.
Agreed. But they should both change significantly if we ever properly leave the EU.Freedom of movement and travel are completely different things.
I really do not see why a no-deal Brexit would influence anyone morally or aspirationally, that kind of escapes me.I'd say the way I was talking about the subject was in a much broader sense, rather than just the fact that you carry around certain documents or criminals that happened to get through, as you mention.
But I'd maintain that none of the negatives, that morally, financially or limits one aspirationally because of a no-deal Brexit, are going to affect Farage.
Farage himself has flip-flopped from "No deal Brexit won't happen" to "We'll have countries queuing up to trade with us" to "No deal was the only way to exit". What a charlatan.
Actually some truth in that. Though to be fair I have been waved through passport control in Europe a fair few times in the last 20 years or so as I lived and had a business in Spain for much of that time so was back and forth a lot.When did you last enter Europe without a passport?
When did you last get out of this country without showing a passport?
So not that difficult and no real impediment to Brexit.Back in the UK I was regularly asked to produce my passport when I started a new job.