They really are fucking barbarians

Barbarians since 2001

At least 937,000 people have been killed by direct war violence in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, and Pakistan. (At least!)

The number of people wounded or become ill as a result of the conflicts is far higher.

The number of civilians who have died as a result of destroyed hospitals and infrastructure and environmental contamination, is far higher.

38 million people living in the war zones have also been displaced by the U.S. post-9/11 wars. This number exceeds the total displaced by every war since 1900, except World War II.

The U.S. could have pursued several nonmilitary alternatives to holding accountable those responsible for the 9/11 attacks. These alternatives would have been far less costly in human lives.

The formation of Islamist militant groups spreading throughout the region counts among the many human costs of these wars.
 
Over 30,177 U.S. service members and veterans of the post-9/11 wars have died by suicide.

All brought to you by the players messing around in Ukraine politics for decades. (Where did that money come from Joe?)
 
Over 30,177 U.S. service members and veterans of the post-9/11 wars have died by suicide.

All brought to you by the players messing around in Ukraine politics for decades. (Where did that money come from Joe?)
And Mr Potatohead is losing his shit over a building getting damaged that was built to pay homage to something that doesn’t exist.
He certainly is a prize one.
 
And Mr Potatohead is losing his shit over a building getting damaged that was built to pay homage to something that doesn’t exist.
He certainly is a prize one.
Some of the most jaw dropping what aboutism from Putins useful idiots . Apart from the barbarism of their air strikes , the attempts to destroy grain stores and block exports of grain could potentially starve millions .
 
Some of the most jaw dropping what aboutism from Putins useful idiots . Apart from the barbarism of their air strikes , the attempts to destroy grain stores and block exports of grain could potentially starve millions .
No need for jaws to drop.
The title suggests a discussion about barbarism.
I believe that I've contributed to the discussion without hysteria and added a broader view.

Try to remember your professor's advice.
 
No need for jaws to drop.
The title suggests a discussion about barbarism.
I believe that I've contributed to the discussion without hysteria and added a broader view.

Try to remember your professor's advice.
He can also try to remember that his government sent his military, and mine, paid by us, to spread that death and destruction. What was it buddy? About 20 years worth.
 
Some of the most jaw dropping what aboutism from Putins useful idiots . Apart from the barbarism of their air strikes , the attempts to destroy grain stores and block exports of grain could potentially starve millions .
if you could only understand the global picture of starving the world and who's behind it !

you are so ignorant and stupid is the only reason you wouldn't be embarrassed by you daft comments.

Classic Dunning-Krugger !

l want to give you clues, but they would sail straight passed you, dumbass.
 
if you could only understand the global picture of starving the world and who's behind it !

you are so ignorant and stupid is the only reason you wouldn't be embarrassed by you daft comments.

Classic Dunning-Krugger !

l want to give you clues, but they would sail straight passed you, dumbass.
How is the weather down the QAnon rabbit hole today ?
 
No need for jaws to drop.
The title suggests a discussion about barbarism.
I believe that I've contributed to the discussion without hysteria and added a broader view.

Try to remember your professor's advice.
Fair do’s, but the snitch also called it right for me. We all know wars are bad, but they are permanently going on, and always will. Dont tell me that the Russians dont have their noses in the trough. They are behind multiple coups, rebellions and revolutions in Africa, often hiding behind PMC Wagner, who Putin now admits are funded by and take orders directly from the Kremlin. But the irritating term, “whataboutery”, actually comes into play. None of your statistics refute that the Russians invaded an independent, sovereign nation, and are now dismantling it, city by city. Russians have always had scant regard for human, or any other life. The wars they have fought and the way they have fought them, testify to this. Two wrongs dont make a right, in this conflict, there is only one aggressor.
 
Fair do’s, but the snitch also called it right for me. We all know wars are bad, but they are permanently going on, and always will. Dont tell me that the Russians dont have their noses in the trough. They are behind multiple coups, rebellions and revolutions in Africa, often hiding behind PMC Wagner, who Putin now admits are funded by and take orders directly from the Kremlin. But the irritating term, “whataboutery”, actually comes into play. None of your statistics refute that the Russians invaded an independent, sovereign nation, and are now dismantling it, city by city. Russians have always had scant regard for human, or any other life. The wars they have fought and the way they have fought them, testify to this. Two wrongs dont make a right, in this conflict, there is only one aggressor.
Everyone is right sometimes, but I don't think OnWatter is here.

It's easy to show that what I've written IS that silly phrase he uses. All you have to do is find my messages of support for Putin. You won't find them. I don't support Putin or the invasion. Neither do I think he's some angel.

There are reasons why this war has happened though, and it's not all down to Putin. I hope that you can see that. I agree with many people that the west has been pushing a conflict with Russia for decades.

What I wrote has a connection to the war. Wstern propaganda, lapped up and repeated by our media and people like OnWatter, tells us that Putin is bad, the west is good, and ignores the glaringly obvious truth.

As OnWatter's professor might have told him, life is a little more complicated than he thinks. Even I learned that before I left school at 16.

👍
 
Some of the most jaw dropping what aboutism from Putins useful idiots .

Jaw dropping? 20 odd years of bombing the fuck out of huge swathes of the earth?
Barging in, wrecking countries...
With no 'positive outcome' in any of it. None. (Except for making some people very rich.)

Oh yeah.... All of that is just 'whataboutism'.
 
Well chatgpt says

Dear fellow forum members,

I've been following this thread with great interest, and I must say that discussions about war and its far-reaching consequences are crucial in fostering a deeper understanding of the complexities involved. The toll of war on human lives and the displacement of civilians are undoubtedly devastating realities that cannot be ignored.

Astleyfox made a valid point about wars being a perennial aspect of human history. While this may be true, it's essential for us to recognize and address the underlying factors that perpetuate conflicts. The involvement of various geopolitical players, whether it's Russia, the United States, or others, demands thorough analysis and introspection.

Moreover, it is essential to remember that conflicts rarely have a single aggressor, and multiple parties may share blame for escalating situations. It's a nuanced issue, and attributing all responsibility to one side may oversimplify a complex geopolitical landscape.

We must also be cautious about getting carried away with generalizations and assumptions about entire nations or peoples. Stereotyping and demonizing each other based on nationality or political affiliation only serve to escalate tensions and hinder constructive dialogue.

As we discuss war and its consequences, let's remember the importance of empathy and open-mindedness. Engaging in respectful conversations can lead to better insights and pave the way for finding solutions to global challenges.

Best regards,
 
Well chatgpt says

Dear fellow forum members,

I've been following this thread with great interest, and I must say that discussions about war and its far-reaching consequences are crucial in fostering a deeper understanding of the complexities involved. The toll of war on human lives and the displacement of civilians are undoubtedly devastating realities that cannot be ignored.

Astleyfox made a valid point about wars being a perennial aspect of human history. While this may be true, it's essential for us to recognize and address the underlying factors that perpetuate conflicts. The involvement of various geopolitical players, whether it's Russia, the United States, or others, demands thorough analysis and introspection.

Moreover, it is essential to remember that conflicts rarely have a single aggressor, and multiple parties may share blame for escalating situations. It's a nuanced issue, and attributing all responsibility to one side may oversimplify a complex geopolitical landscape.

We must also be cautious about getting carried away with generalizations and assumptions about entire nations or peoples. Stereotyping and demonizing each other based on nationality or political affiliation only serve to escalate tensions and hinder constructive dialogue.

As we discuss war and its consequences, let's remember the importance of empathy and open-mindedness. Engaging in respectful conversations can lead to better insights and pave the way for finding solutions to global challenges.

Best regards,
We may as well pack up now. The AI is already better than us.
 
Well chatgpt says

Dear fellow forum members,

I've been following this thread with great interest, and I must say that discussions about war and its far-reaching consequences are crucial in fostering a deeper understanding of the complexities involved. The toll of war on human lives and the displacement of civilians are undoubtedly devastating realities that cannot be ignored.

Astleyfox made a valid point about wars being a perennial aspect of human history. While this may be true, it's essential for us to recognize and address the underlying factors that perpetuate conflicts. The involvement of various geopolitical players, whether it's Russia, the United States, or others, demands thorough analysis and introspection.

Moreover, it is essential to remember that conflicts rarely have a single aggressor, and multiple parties may share blame for escalating situations. It's a nuanced issue, and attributing all responsibility to one side may oversimplify a complex geopolitical landscape.

We must also be cautious about getting carried away with generalizations and assumptions about entire nations or peoples. Stereotyping and demonizing each other based on nationality or political affiliation only serve to escalate tensions and hinder constructive dialogue.

As we discuss war and its consequences, let's remember the importance of empathy and open-mindedness. Engaging in respectful conversations can lead to better insights and pave the way for finding solutions to global challenges.

Best regards,
Wow! Bravo! Can you sort whack-a-mole out with some of what youre smoking, today?
 
Well chatgpt says

Dear fellow forum members,

I've been following this thread with great interest, and I must say that discussions about war and its far-reaching consequences are crucial in fostering a deeper understanding of the complexities involved. The toll of war on human lives and the displacement of civilians are undoubtedly devastating realities that cannot be ignored.

Astleyfox made a valid point about wars being a perennial aspect of human history. While this may be true, it's essential for us to recognize and address the underlying factors that perpetuate conflicts. The involvement of various geopolitical players, whether it's Russia, the United States, or others, demands thorough analysis and introspection.

Moreover, it is essential to remember that conflicts rarely have a single aggressor, and multiple parties may share blame for escalating situations. It's a nuanced issue, and attributing all responsibility to one side may oversimplify a complex geopolitical landscape.

We must also be cautious about getting carried away with generalizations and assumptions about entire nations or peoples. Stereotyping and demonizing each other based on nationality or political affiliation only serve to escalate tensions and hinder constructive dialogue.

As we discuss war and its consequences, let's remember the importance of empathy and open-mindedness. Engaging in respectful conversations can lead to better insights and pave the way for finding solutions to global challenges.

Best regards,
the simple thing to remember about ALL wars is, the reason, is to steal someone else's assets.

Everything else is bull shit.
 
the simple thing to remember about ALL wars is, the reason, is to steal someone else's assets.

Everything else is bull shit.
Or pre-emptive, to protect yourself from aggressors.

I'm sure it's happened a few times for real, even if it's classic false flag territory.
 
Well, ChatGPT as decided to talk to you all as if you were all 7 years old.

Hey there!

I see you found this fun forum thread with lots of people talking about different things. It's like a big online conversation!

In the first message, someone said, "Ooo, I’m livid! 😂😂 I know a catch-fart." Well, sometimes people use funny words or expressions to show they are upset or frustrated, but it's okay, they are just having a little fun!

Then, another person said, "isn't war horrible!" And you know what, they are right! War is a very sad and scary thing. It's when people fight each other, and it can hurt a lot of people and cause a lot of damage.

But then, someone else said, "All in a good cause though, eh?" and another person replied, "no its actually horrible, wasn't sure if you knew this." They are talking about whether there can be good reasons for war or if it's just always terrible. It's a big question that grown-ups often discuss.

Next, someone wrote some numbers about how many people have been affected by wars. It's a lot, and it's really sad to hear about so many people getting hurt.

After that, a person talked about something called "QAnon," which is actually a complicated grown-up topic about conspiracy theories and politics. It's okay if you don't understand it, because it's not something kids need to worry about.

Then, someone else talked about a fundraiser to help people in Ukraine. Fundraisers are like events or activities where people try to collect money to help others who are going through a tough time.

Finally, there was more discussion about wars and who might be responsible for them. It can be confusing to understand all of it, but just remember that wars are bad, and we should always try to find peaceful solutions to problems.

I hope this explanation helps you understand the messages better! If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Keep being curious and learning new things! 😊
 
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