Sir Tom

So you are categorically stating that you saw a Sky News UK report, that says Sir Tom had a first vaccine.
 
Masonic Tom?
Edit - don't worry - I've seen the claims now...

Very unlike Sky News, to get some facts wrong ;)

If the MSM lie, then they are lying here too.
 
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sixthswan said:
Masonic Tom?
Edit - don't worry - I've seen the claims now...

Very unlike Sky News, to get some facts wrong ;)

If the MSM lie, then they are lying here too.
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You try and find the news clip of it now, or news article on google. You wont, because they've made it like it never happened.
 
A few possibilities:

1 This is a faked video
2 The video is from a real broadcast and the presenter "believed" wrongly
3 The video is from a real broadcast and the lizards have supressed it
4 We live in a matrix and this is a glitch
5 We have all entered a wormhole in the spacetime fabric and had a glimpse at one of the infinite alternate universes

I'm going for option 2, but with an eye on option 1
 
I am quite clear in my own mind that most of what we are told about covid by the authorities is a lie.

Actually it is sometimes not a lie per se, it is a willful miss-representation of the facts. A good example being the portrayal of the 100,000+ 'excess' deaths as being due to covid, when the numbers given are described as 'deaths from all causes occurring within 28 days of a positive covid test'.

Censorship is a huge problem too, in recent weeks there has been a substantial increase in the death rates of the elderly in care homes, this has been barely reported. The 'surge' in this period does not follow the usual pattern for winter respiratory illness, the surge is usually much earlier in the winter as the disease spreads among the vulnerable, pretty much as it did in October/November.

It coincides with the roll out of the 'vaccine' into care homes, silence from the authorities. Interesting.
 
I thought excess deaths was just a number related to the 5 year average?

How do you know there has been a "surge" in death rates in care homes? I'm not doubting it. But if this has been censored, then how do you know?
 
sixthswan said:
I thought excess deaths was just a number related to the 5 year average?

How do you know there has been a "surge" in death rates in care homes? I'm not doubting it. But if this has been censored, then how do you know?
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It is. The narrative is greatly helped by the recent 5 year average being historically low.

A week or so back I saw a well produced article, that showed care home deaths rising significantly from the beginning of January. It cited sources for the numbers and related them to the roll out of the vaccine.

I thought it was convincing, well written and quite believable. Sadly I did not bookmark or get a screen jab, I am not a researcher so do not think in those terms as a rule. I tried to find this earlier today but none of the obvious search engines can find it, I suspect that it has been taken down, either because it really was fake or because it is something the authorities do not want us to know about.

Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
That's because it's not a seasonal respiratory illness. The 'surge' is largely a result of Johnson again ignoring the advice and trying to be popular so people could get together for Christmas.
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Afternoon Club Book. Even government figures show that this disease largely disappeared through the summer months, the very definition of seasonal. The surge in deaths was related to care homes and the very elderly. I doubt that there was much getting together over Christmas.


I am finding these arguments increasingly frustrating, we know that the authorities have been miss-leading us and lying to us for almost a year so I find it very difficult to believe anything that we are being told.
 
AFCDorset said:
The narrative is greatly helped by the recent 5 year average being historically low.
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sorry, that's not correct.

ignoring 2020, the '5 year average' has been rising rapidly for the last decade. in fact the 2010s were the highest since the 1960s.

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Adumas. Data is tricky, in this case it is using raw data that causes the issue.

If the data is adjusted for population and age differentials, generally considered to be the more meaningful measure, the death rate has been declining significantly since the turn of the century. The link shows the differences between 'raw' and 'adjusted' death rates.

Deaths registered in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics

Registered deaths by age, sex, selected underlying causes of death and the leading causes of death. Contains death rates and death registrations by area of residence and single year of age.
www.ons.gov.uk

More importantly I think that it is a decent example of how data can be manipulated and chosen to support a particular viewpoint, personally I have no real idea which set of data is the most significant, which is worrying.

It shows that practically anything can be interpreted to fit the government and media narrative.
 
AFCDorset said:
Adumas. Data is tricky, in this case it is using raw data that causes the issue.

If the data is adjusted for population and age differentials, generally considered to be the more meaningful measure, the death rate has been declining significantly since the turn of the century. The link shows the differences between 'raw' and 'adjusted' death rates.

Deaths registered in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics

Registered deaths by age, sex, selected underlying causes of death and the leading causes of death. Contains death rates and death registrations by area of residence and single year of age.
www.ons.gov.uk

More importantly I think that it is a decent example of how data can be manipulated and chosen to support a particular viewpoint, personally I have no real idea which set of data is the most significant, which is worrying.

It shows that practically anything can be interpreted to fit the government and media narrative.
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Or your own, for that matter.
 
With respect Dorset, we were talking purely about excess deaths. An established measure, and method, that is not open to manipulation as you claim.


You've then introduced a completely different set of data, a completely different measure.


This is where 'alternative facts' come from I suppose.
 
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