What Else Did You Expect?

Sohofox

Sohofox

Roofer
We all agree the whole set-up is rotten to the core - Management, Directors, Recruitment, Training Ground, Training Staff etc etc etc.
Its a basket case. We all know the only solution is back to square one - survive the points deductions the EFL are waiting to chuck at us when we are relegated, Top sells up, new owners, new everything - and start again.
It will take years - a lot of older Roofers won't live to see it - but one day Leicester City will rise again!
Meanwhile - its gritted teeth and try to stay in love with Leicester City - even though its hard!!!!!
Cheers!
 
Sohofox said:
We all agree the whole set-up is rotten to the core - Management, Directors, Recruitment, Training Ground, Training Staff etc etc etc.
Its a basket case. We all know the only solution is back to square one - survive the points deductions the EFL are waiting to chuck at us when we are relegated, Top sells up, new owners, new everything - and start again.
It will take years - a lot of older Roofers won't live to see it - but one day Leicester City will rise again!
Meanwhile - its gritted teeth and try to stay in love with Leicester City - even though its hard!!!!!
Cheers!
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Great post 🦊
 
You can probably pinpoint our decline from early 2020.
With Champions League within our grasp, a couple of decent signings would have given the club a positive vibe and the chance to go on and claim the CL riches.
We had a fabulous 1st half of the season and the gap we created was almost insomountable.
Yet we snatched failure from what looked like nailed on success.
Our ambition was severely tempered by just adding a Wolves loanee by the name of Ryan Bennett.
Given the millions at stake and zero chance of us being relegated why didn't they push the boat out ?
It was so demoralising to watch us do a Devon Loch.
We were riding the crest of wave and then criminally tossed it away.
We had been showered with praise and were the envy of almost every club who could only dream about what we had achieved.
I genuinely thought we had took ourselves to an unprecedented new level.
That non entity of a transfer window when so much was at stake was in hindsight a sharp reminder that we most certainly couldn't sustain the fairytale we all lived.
Whilst we didn't collapse immediately, our bubble had been popped and it was the beginning of the slippery slope that's still not been arrested to this day.
 
We also had that one season after we won the cup where we changed our model and didn’t sell a player. That was a huge mistake. We should have sold Tielemans especially as he said he wouldn’t extend his contract. That summer was when we would get the most return from his sale, when his stock was the highest after that cup winning strike.
 
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DagenhamFox said:
We also had that one season after we won the cup where we changed our model and didn’t sell a player. That was a huge mistake. We should have sold Tielemans especially as he said he wouldn’t extend his contract. That summer was when we would get the most return from his sale, when his stock was the highest after that cup winning strike.
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Correct, yet another file to add to the DOFs in tray, maybe a small post - it on the front on which, written in capitals - 'See me. Top'
 
Remember after the last game of last season - after the presentation of the trophy for winning Championship.
On come all the players wives and club staff to parade round the pitch. Then on come the groundsmen and staff. There were faacking dozens of them!!!!
I said at the time "look at how many there are all being paid wages!"
Obviously a load were employed up at Seagrave looking after all those pitches - and the snooker tables, swimming pools, sun tanning pods, table tennis tables, hot tubs etc, etc.
It was seeing that massive army of ground staff that instantly spoke volumes as to what was wrong about the way the club is run.
 
Brauny said:
You can probably pinpoint our decline from early 2020.
With Champions League within our grasp, a couple of decent signings would have given the club a positive vibe and the chance to go on and claim the CL riches.
We had a fabulous 1st half of the season and the gap we created was almost insomountable.
Yet we snatched failure from what looked like nailed on success.
Our ambition was severely tempered by just adding a Wolves loanee by the name of Ryan Bennett.
Given the millions at stake and zero chance of us being relegated why didn't they push the boat out ?
It was so demoralising to watch us do a Devon Loch.
We were riding the crest of wave and then criminally tossed it away.
We had been showered with praise and were the envy of almost every club who could only dream about what we had achieved.
I genuinely thought we had took ourselves to an unprecedented new level.
That non entity of a transfer window when so much was at stake was in hindsight a sharp reminder that we most certainly couldn't sustain the fairytale we all lived.
Whilst we didn't collapse immediately, our bubble had been popped and it was the beginning of the slippery slope that's still not been arrested to this day.
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This is where it all started. The board not backing Rodgers, we only needed another couple of bodies and we would've got champions league.
 
DagenhamFox said:
We also had that one season after we won the cup where we changed our model and didn’t sell a player. That was a huge mistake. We should have sold Tielemans especially as he said he wouldn’t extend his contract. That summer was when we would get the most return from his sale, when his stock was the highest after that cup winning strike.
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There are 3 things about this: firstly, how much serious interest was there in him (there was talk of Arsenal but that always looked more like paper bollocks, outside of Leicester did his stock really go so high after the Cup winner?) and how much interest did he have in leaving? Even when available on a free 2 years later there was hardly a huge fight for his signature (albeit after 2 seasons of ever diminishing returns) & his refusal to sign a new contract for 2 years despite apparently ongoing negotiations even though it never in reality stops a player from leaving if they want & that it was clearly more about Leicester trying to get something for him. It always made it look like running down his contract was always his plan (Hugh will be happy but it did us no favours). Secondly, if he had gone he would have needed replacing, at that point he was only half way through his contract so the price would have needed to be high to both generate profit to buy & help offset the future loses. Thirdly, (and least significantly) as supporters we have for decades lambasted the club for selling our better players so it feels a little churlish being critical of us not selling.

I don't dispute that his leaving for a significant profit would have in retrospect been better for us in the long run but I question how possible it was. We might have gotten away with not selling a player had our recruitment been better that following season but it would have only delayed the demise given that it appears that the salary structure had tipped into the realms of requiring European Football every season to make it even remotely sustainable.
 
MeltonFox said:
This is where it all started. The board not backing Rodgers, we only needed another couple of bodies and we would've got champions league.
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But didn’t we need to move players on first who wouldn’t budge as on good contracts I guess or were not wanted by other clubs ? And that’s when the stand off with top and br started I’m thinking , hands up I don’t read about them things in depth nowadays .
 
Sohofox said:
Remember after the last game of last season - after the presentation of the trophy for winning Championship.
On come all the players wives and club staff to parade round the pitch. Then on come the groundsmen and staff. There were faacking dozens of them!!!!
I said at the time "look at how many there are all being paid wages!"
Obviously a load were employed up at Seagrave looking after all those pitches - and the snooker tables, swimming pools, sun tanning pods, table tennis tables, hot tubs etc, etc.
It was seeing that massive army of ground staff that instantly spoke volumes as to what was wrong about the way the club is run.
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Left at full time and was told in pub later by others they wish they had due to what you post soho🦊, never saw it as celebration as we should never have gone down in 23 , it was all down to lazy people at club not alert to what was unwinding and the blame game hence stand off.
 
Whoever thought Ryan Bennett was the answer didn’t know the question.
Whoever set set on mid level players on long expensive contracts and thinks we can just move them on is completely naive.
Root and branch change is needed. We may have the ideal opportunity for that if we go down and get kicked in the bollocks by the EFL. Otherwise, we’ll linger on stinking the place out like Everton.
 
Not long before the Club merchandise wizards produce "Straight back down" T shirts, hoodies, scarves and badges.
They really do think fans are muppets don't they?
 
Popside said:
Left at full time and was told in pub later by others they wish they had due to what you post soho🦊, never saw it as celebration as we should never have gone down in 23 , it was all down to lazy people at club not alert to what was unwinding and the blame game hence stand off.
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Why shouldn't we of gone down we were a awful team and easily one of the worst three in league.
 
MeltonFox said:
Why shouldn't we have gone down we were an awful team and easily one of the worst three in league.
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Wasn’t clear was i, meant at the start of 22 23 with the squad we had ,so much quality individually as was proved with players who left in summer 23 going to most would say big clubs and I accept said players are at present squad impact players at those teams. But 2 years ago they were in their prime . I’m not a br hater he won the cup and nephew and I were privileged to be there with him and top embracing in front on us , a bottled moment then 14 months later they both had the fall out that lead to br going on strike and not motivating those players. But as a team as you put YES we were awful and the league doesn’t lie . Apparently 🤷‍♂️
 
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buz_not_buzz said:
There are 3 things about this: firstly, how much serious interest was there in him (there was talk of Arsenal but that always looked more like paper bollocks, outside of Leicester did his stock really go so high after the Cup winner?) and how much interest did he have in leaving? Even when available on a free 2 years later there was hardly a huge fight for his signature (albeit after 2 seasons of ever diminishing returns) & his refusal to sign a new contract for 2 years despite apparently ongoing negotiations even though it never in reality stops a player from leaving if they want & that it was clearly more about Leicester trying to get something for him. It always made it look like running down his contract was always his plan (Hugh will be happy but it did us no favours). Secondly, if he had gone he would have needed replacing, at that point he was only half way through his contract so the price would have needed to be high to both generate profit to buy & help offset the future loses. Thirdly, (and least significantly) as supporters we have for decades lambasted the club for selling our better players so it feels a little churlish being critical of us not selling.

I don't dispute that his leaving for a significant profit would have in retrospect been better for us in the long run but I question how possible it was. We might have gotten away with not selling a player had our recruitment been better that following season but it would have only delayed the demise given that it appears that the salary structure had tipped into the realms of requiring European Football every season to make it even remotely sustainable.
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Of course we don’t know, we never know anything nowadays and that’s probably the way it should be.

We did however know we went into that summer openly saying we were going against the grain and not selling a player.

We don’t know about the recruitment either and history shows we aren’t too good in that department. It was a risk and I subscribe to risk reward, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Other clubs however with more experience would have worked really hard to offload him.

I just think this too was a turning point for our decline.
 
If only it was as simple as isolating a deal of just one player.
One of the few quotes to have escaped the secret citadel was by JR who admitted that their forecasting for the last full BR season had been well. awry.
Of course, all executive policy is based on accurate judgements and the previous few seasons had been well judged, the model' admired by clubs who now eclipse us..
But the necessary management skills lately, particularly around league spending rules, have been sadly lacking.
If managers, coaches and players pay for substandard performance then so should directors.
I don't think a change of ownership is needed. Top has steered us through the financial waters well but he has delegated poorly
 
Sohofox said:
We all agree the whole set-up is rotten to the core - Management, Directors, Recruitment, Training Ground, Training Staff etc etc etc.
Its a basket case. We all know the only solution is back to square one - survive the points deductions the EFL are waiting to chuck at us when we are relegated, Top sells up, new owners, new everything - and start again.
It will take years - a lot of older Roofers won't live to see it - but one day Leicester City will rise again!
Meanwhile - its gritted teeth and try to stay in love with Leicester City - even though its hard!!!!!
Cheers!
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Oadlad said:
If only it was as simple as isolating a deal of just one player.
One of the few quotes to have escaped the secret citadel was by JR who admitted that their forecasting for the last full BR season had been well. awry.
Of course, all executive policy is based on accurate judgements and the previous few seasons had been well judged, the model' admired by clubs who now eclipse us..
But the necessary management skills lately, particularly around league spending rules, have been sadly lacking.
If managers, coaches and players pay for substandard performance then so should directors.
I don't think a change of ownership is needed. Top has steered us through the financial waters well but he has delegated poorly
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And that where losing Vichai was the worst thing to happen
 
wints said:
We PERFORMED as one of the worst three. We were not one of the worst three squads. We all know why we performed that badly, but some wont acknowledge the one who lead the 'downing of the tools'
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We had one of the three worst squads. Look at the players that have left us. None of them pulling up trees at new ckubs and only Tielmans is a regular.
 
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