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hackneyfox

Roofer
A chap on the telly has just said they don’t expect the same problems coming back which suggests that the French are implementing the checks more vigorously than the UK.
We won’t be checking for the 180 day rule and won’t be stamping as many passports.
 

RubberDoug

Non-Member
Laugh all you want Hackney buddy.
Some of us have got you fixed just right.
You'd rather your own country fail, just because it 'ain't woke or Labour enough'.
 

hackneyfox

Roofer
Ooh, some of you, which little gang is that?
I live here, my future and that of my son is dependant on the country being a success. I just happen to believe that Brexit, our current PM and the next one (I’m assuming Liz Truss) have and will be a disaster for this country. Doesn’t make me dislike my country or it’s people, just not that keen on certain rabid xenophobes.
I’d also have liked the opportunity to buy and live abroad and for my son to perhaps further his education inside Europe. Those choices have been taken away.
 

Pen4

Non-Member
Ooh, some of you, which little gang is that?
I live here, my future and that of my son is dependant on the country being a success. I just happen to believe that Brexit, our current PM and the next one (I’m assuming Liz Truss) have and will be a disaster for this country. Doesn’t make me dislike my country or it’s people, just not that keen on certain rabid xenophobes.
I’d also have liked the opportunity to buy and live abroad and for my son to perhaps further his education inside Europe. Those choices have been taken away.
Nothing to stop you living abroad

Nothing to stop your son furthering his education inside Europe.
 

Sohofox

Roofer
I'm allowed to call them "Frogs".
Cos I am a quarter French. My grandma (not the one with the greenhouse) was French.
 

Pen4

Non-Member
The passport booths for the French border are in DOVER

The passport booths for the UK are in CALAIS.

The delays were/are in DOVER because the FRENCH border officials didn't turn up to man the booths in DOVER

If the Government had paid for the additional booths then all that would have happened is there would have been more empty booths in DOVER because the FRENCH border officials didn't turn up.
 
The passport booths for the French border are in DOVER

The passport booths for the UK are in CALAIS.

The delays were/are in DOVER because the FRENCH border officials didn't turn up to man the booths in DOVER

If the Government had paid for the additional booths then all that would have happened is there would have been more empty booths in DOVER because the FRENCH border officials didn't turn up.
 

Pen4

Non-Member
Only 90 days in 180 as mentioned by adumass earlier. Fees are now higher for education as no longer a member.
If you plan to live abroad - rather than have a holiday home- then the 90 or 180 day limit is somewhat irrelevant I would have have thought

If your son really wants to study in Europe then I am sure your won't object to paying the additional cost. I don't see why the UK Working Class should subsidise the Middle Classes to be honest.
 
The passport booths for the French border are in DOVER

The passport booths for the UK are in CALAIS.

The delays were/are in DOVER because the FRENCH border officials didn't turn up to man the booths in DOVER

If the Government had paid for the additional booths then all that would have happened is there would have been more empty booths in DOVER because the FRENCH border officials didn't turn up.
French Govt passport booths in Dover are check on the way out, they rejected paying to double the capacity. How do you know they wouldn't turn up if they provided them.
 

hackneyfox

Roofer
If you plan to live abroad - rather than have a holiday home- then the 90 or 180 day limit is somewhat irrelevant I would have have thought

If your son really wants to study in Europe then I am sure your won't object to paying the additional cost. I don't see why the UK Working Class should subsidise the Middle Classes to be honest.
So you’ve just admitted there are problems now due to Brexit. Glad you’ve finally seen the light.
 

hackneyfox

Roofer
If you plan to live abroad - rather than have a holiday home- then the 90 or 180 day limit is somewhat irrelevant I would have have thought

If your son really wants to study in Europe then I am sure your won't object to paying the additional cost. I don't see why the UK Working Class should subsidise the Middle Classes to be honest.
Why have you assumed I’m middle class.
 

hackneyfox

Roofer
More like a bit of inconvenience
An inconvenience? Can’t decide to stay in holiday home for as long as I want and sons education costs thousands more.
An inconvenience is the local shop closing and having to walk another couple of minutes.
Apologies that’s a city dweller comment, not so convenient if you only have one local shop.
 

hackneyfox

Roofer
You don’t know me or my background so you have no idea. The idea of motoring in France horrifies me. I don’t drive.
 

Pen4

Non-Member
French Govt passport booths in Dover are check on the way out, they rejected paying to double the capacity. How do you know they wouldn't turn up if they provided them.
No. They are are a check on the way in. It was clearly explained in the comment piece that i posted earlier.

The system is that you don't get to board the ferry to France unless you have cleared French Border control in DOVER. That's DOVER. Dover in the United Kingdom. If you clear FRENCH BORDER CONTROL in DOVER in the UNITED KINGDOM, when you get to CALAIS in FRANCE you drive off the ferry and hit the highway. I have done this many many times.

On the return trip you pass through UK CUSTOMS & BORDER CONTROL in FRANCE. I have done this many times and have been pulled up a couple of times but passed. When I hit the UK i drove straight off the ferrry/Eurostar and hit the highway.

The border control control is done in the Country of departure not entry.

Clearly, you have never done the trip ever.
 

Pen4

Non-Member
So you’ve just admitted there are problems now due to Brexit. Glad you’ve finally seen the light.
Nope

It's due to the French as per usual.

The lazy fuckers decided not to turn up. They have history in this regard. Stayed at home
 

Pen4

Non-Member
Why have you assumed I’m middle class.
Well if you are worried that access to your holiday home has been reduced to 90 days per annum from 180 days per annum you are not Working Class by any definition that is plausible.

Anyway as I said, if you are planning to move abroad, time limits should be of no relevance at all
 

HughJanus

Roofer
An inconvenience? Can’t decide to stay in holiday home for as long as I want and sons education costs thousands more.
An inconvenience is the local shop closing and having to walk another couple of minutes.
Apologies that’s a city dweller comment, not so convenient if you only have one local shop.
Simply take citizenship then you can stay as long as want and get the Frogs to pay for your son’s education
 
No. They are are a check on the way in. It was clearly explained in the comment piece that i posted earlier.

The system is that you don't get to board the ferry to France unless you have cleared French Border control in DOVER. That's DOVER. Dover in the United Kingdom. If you clear FRENCH BORDER CONTROL in DOVER in the UNITED KINGDOM, when you get to CALAIS in FRANCE you drive off the ferry and hit the highway. I have done this many many times.

On the return trip you pass through UK CUSTOMS & BORDER CONTROL in FRANCE. I have done this many times and have been pulled up a couple of times but passed. When I hit the UK i drove straight off the ferrry/Eurostar and hit the highway.

The border control control is done in the Country of departure not entry.

Clearly, you have never done the trip ever.
Jeesus. So, the massive queue is on the way out, that's why it's in Dover, which is in the UK. The French check the documents for those travelling to France, whilst in Dover in the UK. This is now taking a bit longer due to changes made after Brexit, so the queues in Dover in the UK have got quite long. It was proposed for the UK to pay to double the number of booths for the French officials to use, in Dover in the UK, to check those traveling to France, not in the UK. The UK Govt declined. Some people who make lazy assumptions about the French say they wouldn't have turned up anyway. If you're that good at predicting the future perhaps you should be playing on the lottery, in the UK.
 
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