Voter ID

Adumass said:
a certain section of society are all for compulsory identification, as they believe it is the only way to combat election fraud.
a certain section of society are dead against compulsory identification, as they believe it will restrict access to venues, or travel and over extend government control.

there is a large crossover in those two sections of society.

expect logic gymnastics all over the place.
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Is there any evidence of voter fraud in the UK, this won’t cover postal votes, that’s a red herring.
Pretty much all the fraud I hear about are the bastards we voted in due to the promises they make and fail to keep.
 
Mistryman said:
I’d say a voter ID card would be closer to a full digital ID, than a Covid passport.
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Quite possibly, but I must point out that I have not mentioned 'voter ID card', even once.
Adumass said:
a certain section of society are all for compulsory identification, as they believe it is the only way to combat election fraud.
a certain section of society are dead against compulsory identification, as they believe it will restrict access to venues, or travel and over extend government control.

there is a large crossover in those two sections of society.

expect logic gymnastics all over the place.
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As I have said, I think it is right that anyone eligible and wishing to vote in a British election should identify themselves in an appropriate manner and wherever possible vote in person. This does not, and should not require compulsory voter ID cards.

The 'Compulsory Identification' required to travel and access services or events require you to take a 'vaccine' with unknown and possibly dangerous side effects. it also requires that you keep your 'vaccine status' up to date.

Any thinking person can see that is not the same thing at all, no gymnastics required.
 
AFCDorset said:
Quite possibly, but I must point out that I have not mentioned 'voter ID card', even once.

As I have said, I think it is right that anyone eligible and wishing to vote in a British election should identify themselves in an appropriate manner and wherever possible vote in person. This does not, and should not require compulsory voter ID cards.

The 'Compulsory Identification' required to travel and access services or events require you to take a 'vaccine' with unknown and possibly dangerous side effects. it also requires that you keep your 'vaccine status' up to date.

Any thinking person can see that is not the same thing at all, no gymnastics required.
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What appropriate manner though?
Plenty with no passport if drivers license.
 
hackneyfox said:
What appropriate manner though?
Plenty with no passport if drivers license.
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The usual, Council tax or similar official document, bank statement/card ID, birth certificate etc, etc.

Some people might consider that a faff, for me it is the price you pay if you want to vote.
 
AFCDorset said:
The usual, Council tax or similar official document, bank statement/card ID, birth certificate etc, etc.

Some people might consider that a faff, for me it is the price you pay if you want to vote.
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Doesn't the proposed bill say photo id?
 
hackneyfox said:
All of which can be ‘borrowed’ so doesn’t solve the problem (which doesn’t exist).
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In fact Hackney, the first part of your statement makes it obvious that the problem does exist.

Strangely, I find myself the one trying to be positive here, I want people to know that their vote is not devalued by the fraudulent voting of others. Set up a system that ensures that is the case, if there is no fraud, nothing changes.
SardiniaFox said:
Doesn't the proposed bill say photo id?
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Possibly. It can get very difficult if we demand a system that is perfect. There are plenty of fake passports and driving licences out there so even that system is flawed.

A sort of universal ID may have to be the answer, goes against the grain for me but possibly the lesser evil. Until recently I have never considered whether voter frauds/is a thing at all, now I am not so sure.

That some people are so set against the idea of looking into the matter makes me think that something is up, they have an agenda.
 
AFCDorset said:
Set up a system that ensures that is the case, if there is no fraud, nothing changes.
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It’s effectively yet another means of distraction by this wonderful govt to ensure that a number of people get annoyed/concerned about something that isn’t as widespread a problem as some folk want it to be.
 
Mistryman said:
It’s effectively yet another means of distraction by this wonderful govt to ensure that a number of people get annoyed/concerned about something that isn’t as widespread a problem as some folk want it to be.
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Don't 'want it to be', just fear that it might be the case.

But I agree, it is a distraction.

Also I do not think that it is this particular government, awful though they are, that is the problem.

I fear that it is a systemic issue that needs to be addresses by means other than tinkering with a discredited (in many ways) voting system.
 
AFCDorset said:
Until recently I have never considered whether voter frauds/is a thing at all, now I am not so sure.
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Genuine question, why do you think this was not a consideration for you until recently?

Timing is coincidental, given the voter fraud narrative in the States.
 
hackneyfox said:
Explain how everyone who has the right to vote will have appropriate ID?
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Isn't this the crux of the matter? How to know that the person at the polling station does indeed have the right to vote? There aren't many important times when a simple "Yes, that's who I am" is an adequate response to being asked to prove who you are.
And you need fucking photo ID to pick up Click and Collect beer at a supermarket!
 
AFCDorset said:
In fact Hackney, the first part of your statement makes it obvious that the problem does exist.

That some people are so set against the idea of looking into the matter makes me think that something is up, they have an agenda.
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The first part of my statement shows that it could exist not that it does.

That some people are so for the idea makes me think that they have an agenda.
 
Filbo65 said:
Isn't this the crux of the matter? How to know that the person at the polling station does indeed have the right to vote? There aren't many important times when a simple "Yes, that's who I am" is an adequate response to being asked to prove who you are.
And you need fucking photo ID to pick up Click and Collect beer at a supermarket!
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Why not use the COVID passport?
 
Adumass said:
Genuine question, why do you think this was not a consideration for you until recently?

Timing is coincidental, given the voter fraud narrative in the States.
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To be quite honest, I was not really much interested in practical politics until the Brexit referendum became a real possibility.

I looked into the issues and came to the conclusion that the EU was, effectively, a criminal organisation and that getting out was an absolute moral necessity. The economics of the issue came a distant second. I did not expect leave to win.

This was followed closely by Trumps election, again something that was totally unexpected. Globalist reaction, lead by mainstream media, big tech and other 'on narrative' organisations lead me to the belief that nothing like these events would ever be allowed to happen again.

From then on, trust in the authorities started to evaporate, slowly at first but it gathered momentum, lizards apart, I am now approaching David Icke territory.

It is now my view that there is a Globalist agenda to destroy the western, christian, democratic countries by all means possible. Political and social upheaval, financial destruction population renewal and whatever else, small and large that they can bring to bear. I rabbit about it on here because I am too old and, sadly, too infirm to do anything else.
 
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