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Sixthswan...

Once again it is about the language.

Last year I had two heart procedures, both carried out in the cardiac unit at Bournemouth hospital. One was fully funded NHS, one was private, paid for by me. In both cases I had to have swabs taken and tested before having my procedures confirmed.

I was told that the test was not mandatory but unless I had them then my procedures would 'not be confirmed at the present time'. I asked why that was and the answer I received was a fairly curt 'covid rules'.

Effectively, no test, no treatment. How long before that becomes 'no jab, no treatment'?
That all depends on how many of us stand up for our rights, If we allow mandatory vaccination of an experimental drug were does it stop? As you have proved on here many times the death rate suggests it is another Sars flu nothing more.
 

CityFox

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If you do not comply, what happens to you? Resettlement in the east perhaps. This is coercion, pure and simple, I find this disturbing given the continued drive to get everyone jabbed in double quick time, there is a reason for this and the authorities are not saying what it is.
Great Yarmouth!? God no. Please... Jab..JAB!
 

Foxgolfer

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Whenever I ask anyone for any evidence of non factual reporting no one can come up with one example apart from a small handful which have been reported and apologised for .
Sadly though, it’s an institution under attack by this government and therefore it’s independent editorial stance and freedom to hold power to account is hamstrung and its lost my trust in its political impartiality .
C4 and to an extent Sky are the only outlets with any balls . The fact most government ministers now refuse to appear on C4 shows they are probably getting it more right than most .
Sort of makes my point better

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AFCDorset

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Apparently 10 students ( yes 10 ) voting to take down a picture in their common room is more important to The BBC and most of the national press than Government Ministers breaking the Law . Such is the state of U.K. democracy in 2021
Just think for a moment Fg, what have you just said?

The BBC setting the news agenda? Manipulating stories to cover up anything that does not fit the narrative, carefully selecting those who are allowed to have an opinion or comment on air?

This selectivity is the biggest lie of all, anything not mentioned on the BBC, didn't happen. That is how it works, there is no need whatsoever to lie about 'the facts', just don't mention them if they are not to your liking, simple as that.
 

Adumass

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What he's actually doing is the same thing many are doing.
Grabbing something from his social media feed (echo echo) and putting on here to make a point.

My analysis...that Oxford uni story was was not on the main BBC news page...in fact you had to go to Regional local news, and then Oxford, to view it.

Whereas the Gove story was, rightly, very prominent on the main page yesterday.
 

Richardvanles

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What he's actually doing is the same thing many are doing.
Grabbing something from his social media feed (echo echo) and putting on here to make a point.

My analysis...that Oxford uni story was was not on the main BBC news page...in fact you had to go to Regional local news, and then Oxford, to view it.

Whereas the Gove story was, rightly, very prominent on the main page yesterday.

But when you highlight it you get folk saying oh it is on the BBC news and then provide a link to the said story, either regional or if it is national it’s put after stories about a birthmark on Megan Markles arse in the shape of the anti christ, Ant and Decs latest shag or some other crap that the jabbers switch their brains off to. It’s manipulation for the masses.
 

Foxgolfer

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What ? The point I made which AFC and Dickie did ?
Dickie liking a post which calls his exact point bullshit. Priceless 😂
So the BBC manipulates the news agenda as I posted or not ?
You seem confused . But that probably happens a lot at your age Mac
 

Foxgolfer

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What he's actually doing is the same thing many are doing.
Grabbing something from his social media feed (echo echo) and putting on here to make a point.

My analysis...that Oxford uni story was was not on the main BBC news page...in fact you had to go to Regional local news, and then Oxford, to view it.

Whereas the Gove story was, rightly, very prominent on the main page yesterday.
Apology Adumass if I got this one wrong . I assumed this was prominent on their website and given the same weight as The Gove story .
I still think the BBC ( and I am one of their biggest supporters ) have ben hamstrung by the current nasty bunch of what was once the Tory party .
As a result they fail to challenge the government as they should for the shameful steady erosion of our democracy
 

Foxgolfer

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Just think for a moment Fg, what have you just said?

The BBC setting the news agenda? Manipulating stories to cover up anything that does not fit the narrative, carefully selecting those who are allowed to have an opinion or comment on air?

This selectivity is the biggest lie of all, anything not mentioned on the BBC, didn't happen. That is how it works, there is no need whatsoever to lie about 'the facts', just don't mention them if they are not to your liking, simple as that.
Hi AFC
There is still a clear distinction between selectivity and fake .
Clearly every event in the world cannot be reported on or highlighted , but over their many networks they cover most important events .
Some superb reporting on World Service . The Today programme covers a lot intelligently . The website is good if you have time to dig around .
As I say you always gets true facts . How you interpret them or see as most important can only be subjective.

My beef with them is they are becoming terrified to really take the current lot to account for lies and corruption . It started with Brexit and is continued with Johnson’s appalling handling of covid last year.
They are also getting drawn into the culture wars that Johnson is so desperate to stoke up to deflect the great British public from their gradual erosion of our rights and our democracy .
We are pretty much in agreement on this. The thing we totally diverge on is the covid restrictions on which I am with the 90% + offer people who believe in necessary public health measures including vaccination for all .
 

Richardvanles

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i thought you lot were doing good with your vaccinations, and then i saw a story yesterday that 25 and up will soon be eligible for the jabs?
We had 16+ eligible in March, both my kids were done in april.
The proof of vaccination thing is good for events with large crowds as you don't need any distancing or masks.
I'm not sure why people would think it's a bad idea if you want to open up fully (except for those who cannnot get a vaccine for medical reasons).
Yeah, up to you whether you choose to sit at the back of the bus or not...
 

AFCDorset

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Hi AFC
There is still a clear distinction between selectivity and fake .
Clearly every event in the world cannot be reported on or highlighted , but over their many networks they cover most important events .
Some superb reporting on World Service . The Today programme covers a lot intelligently . The website is good if you have time to dig around .
As I say you always gets true facts . How you interpret them or see as most important can only be subjective.

My beef with them is they are becoming terrified to really take the current lot to account for lies and corruption . It started with Brexit and is continued with Johnson’s appalling handling of covid last year.
They are also getting drawn into the culture wars that Johnson is so desperate to stoke up to deflect the great British public from their gradual erosion of our rights and our democracy .
We are pretty much in agreement on this. The thing we totally diverge on is the covid restrictions on which I am with the 90% + offer people who believe in necessary public health measures including vaccination for all .
Afternoon Fg.
The BBC choose and select the news agenda to suit their own purposes, most media outlets do exactly the same.

The difference is that the BBC claim to be both independent and impartial, but neither is the case. Whilst the BBC has the occasional 'dig' at government politicians, they are essentially on board with the globalist agenda as it is currently being implemented and the 'common purpose' agenda that they use to support and control the narrative.

Johnson, Gove and the rest do not matter as individuals, they are simply 'placemen' who take their instructions from a much higher level. It is that that should be challenged but you will never see it on the BBC.
 

Foxgolfer

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Afternoon Fg.
The BBC choose and select the news agenda to suit their own purposes, most media outlets do exactly the same.

The difference is that the BBC claim to be both independent and impartial, but neither is the case. Whilst the BBC has the occasional 'dig' at government politicians, they are essentially on board with the globalist agenda as it is currently being implemented and the 'common purpose' agenda that they use to support and control the narrative.

Johnson, Gove and the rest do not matter as individuals, they are simply 'placemen' who take their instructions from a much higher level. It is that that should be challenged but you will never see it on the BBC.
And there you lose me .
Who are these “higher level” beings and what is the “global agenda”?
No one has ever been able to supply anything but unsubstantiated nonsense on extremist websites to back up these wild claims.
 

AFCDorset

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And there you lose me .
Who are these “higher level” beings and what is the “global agenda”?
No one has ever been able to supply anything but unsubstantiated nonsense on extremist websites to back up these wild claims.
The 'higher level' is those who control the money supply, the bankers, the Saudis and Qataris and of course the Chinese. We are not talking about some sort of elaborate plot, just the very, very rich manipulating the world for their own benefit.

I know you do not see it like that but I do, I actually can't 'unsee' it. It goes back a very long time but really came to the fore with Eisenhower and his warnings to America about the 'military industrial complex' but is now far larger and all encompassing.

In general terms, as long as I am left alone to lead my life I don't much care, until the last year or so when it has rather grabbed my attention.
 

AFCDorset

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Behave SF.

I have told you before, they are ultra capitalists. The use marxist tactics of identity politics to exert control. Do keep up.

Club book.

The 'lizards' could be investigated without actually being there in person but as they effectively control the BBC along with most of the worlds media it isn't going to happen.
 

Richardvanles

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The 'higher level' is those who control the money supply, the bankers, the Saudis and Qataris and of course the Chinese. We are not talking about some sort of elaborate plot, just the very, very rich manipulating the world for their own benefit.

I know you do not see it like that but I do, I actually can't 'unsee' it. It goes back a very long time but really came to the fore with Eisenhower and his warnings to America about the 'military industrial complex' but is now far larger and all encompassing.

In general terms, as long as I am left alone to lead my life I don't much care, until the last year or so when it has rather grabbed my attention.
I see you’re scared to mention the zionists.
Are you the sort of bloke that hides in the bog when it kicks off?
 

AFCDorset

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I see you’re scared to mention the zionists.
Are you the sort of bloke that hides in the bog when it kicks off?
Don't be offensive. I have said nothing about anything kicking off.

I just happen to believe that there is a level of human society that is operating at a level way beyond my understanding, this has been the case case for many years, centuries even.

Up until a few months ago, I was left alone to live my life and, in the main, have a pretty good time doing it, so really, I took no real interest in such things. The last year or so has been troubling.
 

Richardvanles

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Don't be offensive. I have said nothing about anything kicking off.

I just happen to believe that there is a level of human society that is operating at a level way beyond my understanding, this has been the case case for many years, centuries even.

Up until a few months ago, I was left alone to live my life and, in the main, have a pretty good time doing it, so really, I took no real interest in such things. The last year or so has been troubling.
Think you’ll find your the one that made comments regarding what I do in pubs. Bit if advice, if you can’t take it don’t give it and stop getting your feelings hurt. It’s only a silly messageboard.
 

AFCDorset

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Think you’ll find your the one that made comments regarding what I do in pubs. Bit if advice, if you can’t take it don’t give it and stop getting your feelings hurt. It’s only a silly messageboard.
Show me where I commented on what you 'do' in pubs, you are making it up.

Also, give me one instance that I have been offensive to you (or anyone else for that matter).

Come on Richard, we usually get along alright, even though you are a lefty and me being a full blown Nazi... ;)
 

MrTeabreak

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No it’s not and you know it. You sit at the back, it’s your choice, those that sit at the front will go down in history.
Lions and weasels.
you can't decide on the color of your skin, therefore a law based on skin color is discriminatory.
you can decide to take a vaccine or not, thus there is no discrimination, you have a free choice and consequences from that choice.
As i said, false equivalence and you knew it or you're even more stupid than we thought.
 

Richardvanles

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you can't decide on the color of your skin, therefore a law based on skin color is discriminatory.
you can decide to take a vaccine or not, thus there is no discrimination, you have a free choice and consequences from that choice.
As i said, false equivalence and you knew it or you're even more stupid than we thought.
You've proved yourself to be thick as shit more than once. Your saying that people can be discriminated against for not taking a vaccine that could potentially kill them?
Guess your the sort that people had the choice to not take a train ride in Germany that could potentially kill them. Fucking mong.
 

astleyfox

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You've proved yourself to be thick as shit more than once. Your saying that people can be discriminated against for not taking a vaccine that could potentially kill them?
Guess your the sort that people had the choice to not take a train ride in Germany that could potentially kill them. Fucking mong.
Fucking mang! You seem to be stepping up in the absence of your sweary ally.
 
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