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These Manc Fuckers.

courtslcfc

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What if they kick off again on the Twelfth?
Match postponed.
Long drive back to Leicester.

Destabilised before Wemberlee.
 

essingtonblue

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They are no better than their billy big bollocks owners.
If they’d been due to play a palace/wolves/ West Ham/us etc today it wouldn’t have been high profile enough for them to bother to disrupt it.
 

Filbo65

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I thought the new police bill that so many people were fretting about was going to prevent this type of protest?
 

courtslcfc

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They are no better than their billy big bollocks owners.
If they’d been due to play a palace/wolves/ West Ham/us etc today it wouldn’t have been high profile enough for them to bother to disrupt it.
Really?
Aren't we the reason this "competition" was evolved in the first place?
 

Brusselsfox

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Politicians run a mile from ‘mobs’ .. there was a bit of momentum for a change of the ownership model in Football in England but this has put an end to it. Looks too much like storming the White House ... and that ended well.
 

bnet

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Politicians run a mile from ‘mobs’ .. there was a bit of momentum for a change of the ownership model in Football in England but this has put an end to it. Looks too much like storming the White House ... and that ended well.
anyone suspicious of this ?

The police can't control a thousand protesters at a football ground, so they call a match off. Normally 70k there, no problem mmmm !

Try getting into OT without a ticket, these just walked in, no police stopping them, unlocked gates conveniently .

Just me ?
 

DagenhamFox

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Given Liverpool fans habit of throwing bottles and other stuff at opposition coaches I’m not surprised they stopped the two club coaches from leaving their hotels. The Liverpool coach would have been wrecked.
 

bnet

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Given Liverpool fans habit of throwing bottles and other stuff at opposition coaches I’m not surprised they stopped the two club coaches from leaving their hotels. The Liverpool coach would have been wrecked.
Did the protests in Glasgow the other week postpone a game ? l can't remember.
 

Blue City

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anyone suspicious of this ?

The police can't control a thousand protesters at a football ground, so they call a match off. Normally 70k there, no problem mmmm !

Try getting into OT without a ticket, these just walked in, no police stopping them, unlocked gates conveniently .

Just me ?
That’s true and it’s very easy to get slung out up there for not very much
 

Daz40

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So what I'm hearing is that a steward or member of security were involved in the protest hence why they were able to get in.
 

oxonfox

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Don't upset your owners, wouldn't be surprised if the glaziers don't invest anymore money into the club. 💰
 

DagenhamFox

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Have they really done a bad job?

Manchester United have the 4th highest revenue in world football, behind Barcelona and Real Madrid (both millions in debt) and Bayern Munich who are a well run club.

I don’t believe Man U are dangerously in debt, these additional revenues allow them to buy some top players to allow them to compete at the top.

A few years ago they were struggling to get into the top 4 and played in the Europa League. Now they are clear in second and well ahead of a useful Liverpool side who won the league at a canter last season. The only reason they’re in the EL now is their inability to finish 1st or 2nd in their CL group.
 

Truro12

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No way that could've happened without someone letting them in. The covid controls on access are incredibly tight.
 

roughage

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Two issues are being conflated. The ESL and ownership of clubs. The fans of the "Big 6" are now portraying themselves as victims of mendacious owners and using the ESL uproar for their own ends. Whilst I don't disagree that the issue of ownership has to be looked at and have sympathy, these are individual complaints by their fans. Any sanctions against the ESL rebels will impact on these fans but it's really important that there are genuine sanctions.
The issue that the Manchester United fans groups seem to have is that the Glazers are taking vast sums out of the club as interest on the loans used to purchase the club. The BBC showed last night that they have outspent every club in Europe by vast sums over the last decade (apart from Man City who seem to make the rules up as they go along). So essentially they are complaining that the Glazers have prevented Man Utd from outspending every other club by an even greater degree. Buying success. That's where my sympathy vanishes and my cynicism kicks in. Fuck 'em all as far as I'm concerned. If they have owners they loved they'd dump the rest of us as fast as you could say "entitlement"/.
 

Paddysfoxes

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Fixtures have to finish Sunday 23rd May, looking at both Man Utd and Liverpool remaining fixtures there is talk of playing Friday 14th May which will be interesting.
 

foxesneverquit

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I read similar to that Paddy.
Liverpool are due to play WBA on Sunday 16th May
They could bring the game forward to Tue 11th or Wed 12th May which would free them up to play Man U on Cup Final Weekend.
No doubt I have got this wrong ;)
 

MrTeabreak

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Have they really done a bad job?

Manchester United have the 4th highest revenue in world football, behind Barcelona and Real Madrid (both millions in debt) and Bayern Munich who are a well run club.

I don’t believe Man U are dangerously in debt, these additional revenues allow them to buy some top players to allow them to compete at the top.

A few years ago they were struggling to get into the top 4 and played in the Europa League. Now they are clear in second and well ahead of a useful Liverpool side who won the league at a canter last season. The only reason they’re in the EL now is their inability to finish 1st or 2nd in their CL group.
According to G Neville, they've made a load of money and have not invested back into club infrastructure. He says they have the worst training complex of the big boys and the area around the ground has been let go instead of creating a 'fan experience' (his words not mine).
 

courtslcfc

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Hardly syphoning funds from the club. The world's most expensive defender. One of the world's most expensive midfielders. Manager pay offs. Almost a billion spent on the squad.

Hardly a board with no interest except line their own pockets.

Oh and the development of OT.
 

courtslcfc

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Also didn't Liverpool last season play two games in three days and everyone just laugh about the way they moaned, especially the red side of Manchester.

Fuckem make them play the rescheduled match a day before we play them.
 

Eggs66

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Courts - it would take someone better at finances than I to explain it better....but I understand it is how they get the money for these big transfers - so they borrow large amounts of money leveraged against the value (and future tv revenues) of the club. THE CLUB is then liable for the debt (not the owners)....and the club pays it back. Meanwhile they enjoy the fruits of the revenues. Something like that.

Maybe this helps better than I am explaining it:

Are Manchester United in debt?​

Manchester United are in debt and the club's net debt as of September 24, 2019 was £203.6 million ($254m), down from £301.7m ($373m) on the previous year.

They did, however, announce record revenues of £627.1m ($782m) and an operating profit of £50m ($62m) for 2019, with the club "committed to winning trophies".

The club had been debt-free until 2005, but debt has risen and fallen since then, reaching a peak of nearly £778m in 2010.

Why are Manchester United in debt?​

Manchester United's colossal debt is the result of the takeover of the club by the Glazer family in 2005.

The Glazer takeover of the Premier League giants was controversial because it loaded £525m of debt onto the club - through loans secured against its assets - in a move known as a 'leveraged buyout'.

Prior to the purchase, Manchester United had been debt free.

A refinancing of the debt occurred in 2010 when it had risen to over three-quarters-of-a billion pounds.
 
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