The Green Scam VII

[Led By Donkeys]

So it transpires that windfarm operators are paid to turn the windmills off when the national grid is at capacity

The cost of this is £1 Billion per annum

Net Zero is screwing us all over

 

[NeuroFox]

1. Go on Twitter
2. Read a load of nonsense
3. Get all riled up
4. Post it on your socials
5. Back to 1

 

[HughJanus]

Well stop doing it then

 

[RegiRoka]

1. Go on Twitter
2. Read a load of nonsense
3. Get all riled up
4. Post it on your socials
5. Back to 1

Golfy does it better.

1. Switch on TV.
2. Fill head with load of nonsense
3. See that no one got the same message on socials
4. Post riled up/arrogant response
5. Back to 1

 

[Led By Donkeys]

1. Go on Twitter
2. Read a load of nonsense
3. Get all riled up
4. Post it on your socials
5. Back to 1

Are you suggesting then that what I posted is factually incorrect (before your respond I suggest that you do some research).

To save you time I would suggest that you start your search with 'Windfarm Curtailment Costs'

I look forward to another one of your well considered responses

 

[NeuroFox]

Are you suggesting then that what I posted is factually incorrect (before your respond I suggest that you do some research).

To save you time I would suggest that you start your search with 'Windfarm Curtailment Costs'

I look forward to another one of your well considered responses

I'm suggesting that you post shit without any context purely to promote the idea that everything is broken.

Wind energy is fantastic. It's comparatively incredibly cheap, available and efficient.

There are issues because most of our wind energy is produced in Scotland and the excessive demand comes from England and we haven't yet built an infrastructure that makes sense.

Even excessive wind energy could be hugely important in the future because we can use it for loads of things. For example to convert it into storable hydrogen, a process called electrolysing.

For many years now, we've had excess wind energy in Scotland but it's a new system being built and compensating producers for a few years is nothing in the big picture. Wind is already massively more efficient than fossil fuels.

So, yeah, your post was brain dead thicko shite.

 

[HughJanus]

Nothing more worrying than excessive wind

 

[Led By Donkeys]

I'm suggesting that you post shit without any context purely to promote the idea that everything is broken.

Wind energy is fantastic. It's comparatively incredibly cheap, available and efficient.

There are issues because most of our wind energy is produced in Scotland and the excessive demand comes from England and we haven't yet built an infrastructure that makes sense.

Even excessive wind energy could be hugely important in the future because we can use it for loads of things. For example to convert it into storable hydrogen, a process called electrolysing.

For many years now, we've had excess wind energy in Scotland but it's a new system being built and compensating producers for a few years is nothing in the big picture. Wind is already massively more efficient than fossil fuels.

So, yeah, your post was brain dead thicko shite.

So I was correct that the consumer is paying £1 billion per annum for absolutely nothing then?

You really are rather infantile. Your have been proven to be wrong - why not just admit it without resorting to insults?

You might be happy paying more for electricity then we need to but then scammers love an idiot to rip off and you seem to fit the profile of an idiot.

 

[NeuroFox]

So I was correct that the consumer is paying £1 billion per annum for absolutely nothing then?

You really are rather infantile. Your have been proven to be wrong - why not just admit it without resorting to insults?

You might be happy paying more for electricity then we need to but then scammers love an idiot to rip off and you seem to fit the profile of an idiot.

I tried to explain the situation with wind energy but it's clearly beyond you.

No, you're not correct. And sadly, you don't even realise it.

Coming soon to a thread near you, Led By Donkeys will claim that something is terrible because some idiot on Twitter told him so.

 

[Led By Donkeys]

I tried to explain the situation with wind energy but it's clearly beyond you.

No, you're not correct. And sadly, you don't even realise it.

Coming soon to a thread near you, Led By Donkeys will claim that something is terrible because some idiot on Twitter told him so.

I didn't get it from Twitter (which is now called X btw).

You have not offered any proof that the figure is incorrect. Your observations about wind power are interesting but do not address the point that I have raised. It's costing £1 billion per annum to compensate wind farm operators - that is the point that I raised.

I will assume that you believe it is a price worth paying in view of the 'climate emergency' - just be honest about it rather than deflecting. Stand by your principles (if you have any) and acknowledge that there are costs to the persuit of NEt Zero which result in consumers paying more for energy

I got it from the BBC (amongst other sources btw - never went anywhere near X )- are you saying that they are all wrong?

 

[BigDave]

So, yeah, your post was brain dead thicko shite.

So much anger can't be good for you buddy. Try not to hate the guys on here.

 

[Led By Donkeys]

So much anger can't be good for you buddy. Try not to hate the guys on here.

He hates himself more methinks

Always getting caught out is not good for self esteem

 

[bannedontherun]

Who pays for hydro-electric stations during times of low demand?

 

[Led By Donkeys]

Who pays for hydro-electric stations during times of low demand?

Best start a new thread I would suggest or try google - your question as no relevance to this thread.

Wind power cannot be key part of base generation capacity until the storage issue is solved - which is years away.

Meanwhile China are still building coal-fired power stations which mean our efforts towards Net Zero are simply a waste of time and money

 

[Adumass]

Please, no-one tell pen4 the cost to the UK taxpayer of nuclear power plants (to both build new ones, and decommission the old ones), we'll never hear the end of it....

 

[buz_not_buzz]

You have not offered any proof that the figure is incorrect. Your observations about wind power are interesting but do not address the point that I have raised. It's costing £1 billion per annum to compensate wind farm operators - that is the point that I raised.

Maybe I was misunderstanding but from what I read it seemed that the overall cost of wind curtailment was estimated at £1 billion p.a. but not all of that was related to compensating wind farm operators. Whilst substantial, it read like the majority related to the additional cost of gas to provide the energy needed during wind curtailment periods. Not that I am doubting that overall figure or that current infrastructure is not capable of getting energy from source to use but there's a lot of vested interests. Essentially a lot of snouts fighting in the same trough for the same wodge of cash.

 

[What?]

Due to all of the wind farms in Scotland and the prevailing winds scientists have calculated that it has moved 2 feet closer to Iceland in the last 25 years.

 

[sixthswan]

Maybe I was misunderstanding but from what I read it seemed that the overall cost of wind curtailment was estimated at £1 billion p.a. but not all of that was related to compensating wind farm operators. Whilst substantial, it read like the majority related to the additional cost of gas to provide the energy needed during wind curtailment periods. Not that I am doubting that overall figure or that current infrastructure is not capable of getting energy from source to use but there's a lot of vested interests. Essentially a lot of snouts fighting in the same trough for the same wodge of cash.

It was in 2022 and you're right - £215m to compensate the windfarm operators to turn off supply - because the wind farms were producing too much energy for the current transmission capacity...

£717m to buy gas-fired energy to make up the difference.

More incompetence, than a scam.

But the vested interests in energy are what causes most evil, corruption and inequality in the world...

 

[What?]

It's a model for almost everywhere. Make something where you don't want it then use energy to take it to where you do want it

 

[NeuroFox]

So much anger can't be good for you buddy. Try not to hate the guys on here.

I can assure you Mr Admin, that there is absolutely nothing about a daft football based forum that will ever make me angry.

Nice that you're so concerned about my wellbeing. Not so sure you've quite worked out who on here is unwell though.

 

[NeuroFox]

I didn't get it from Twitter (which is now called X btw).

You have not offered any proof that the figure is incorrect. Your observations about wind power are interesting but do not address the point that I have raised. It's costing £1 billion per annum to compensate wind farm operators - that is the point that I raised.

I will assume that you believe it is a price worth paying in view of the 'climate emergency' - just be honest about it rather than deflecting. Stand by your principles (if you have any) and acknowledge that there are costs to the persuit of NEt Zero which result in consumers paying more for energy

I got it from the BBC (amongst other sources btw - never went anywhere near X )- are you saying that they are all wrong?

There must be a brain in there somewhere surely?