Peter Sullivan

Yes l am ...........do not forget there are bastards out there who give not a jot for lives as long as there gratification is sated .also this man was only cleared by modern techniques.......... yes l feel sorry for him and for being stitched up by authorities
 
Yes l am ...........do not forget there are bastards out there who give not a fuck for lives as long as there gratification is sated .also this man was only cleared by modern techniques.......... yes l feel sorry for him and for being stitched up by authoriti
 
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The death penalty should never be used, where the evidence is circumstantial and legal representation had been initially refused by the police.
However, in a case like the Southport girls - death penalty please...
You either have it or you don't, you can't choose some crimes over others because it's more emotive. There could still be cases where similar heinous murders are committed and someone is wrongfully convicted.
 
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You either have it or you don't, you can't choose some crimes over others because it's more emotive. There could still be cases where similar heinous murders are committed and someone is wrongfully convicted.
America have different murder tarrifs, why can't the UK? If irrefutable DNA is found (Colin Pitchfork) or there is no doubt (Peter Sutcliffe or Axel Rudakubana) what is the point in keeping these people alive?
 
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You either have it or you don't, you can't choose some crimes over others because it's more emotive. There could still be cases where similar heinous murders are committed and someone is wrongfully convicted.

I wasn't suggesting crimes should be evaluated on emotive value.
The woman who was murdered in the wrongfully convicted case suffered extreme pain and had parts of her body mutilated.
That's pretty emotive...and context is important...
But the evidence was what I was referring to.
There should NEVER be the death penalty, for a case so reliant on circumstantial evidence.
But in a case like Southport, the person was caught at the scene, clearly committed the murders, said he was happy the victims were dead at his own hands - and so, to do us all a favour - he should be put down like an animal.
In cases of overwhelming and irrefutable evidence, where the crime is heinous...death.
As a recent other example, Lucy Letby should not reach the threshold for the death penalty.
Too much of the evidence is circumstantial and even doubtful.
 
Southport & Pitchfork would be the thin end of a wedge. Reintroduce the death penalty for them and how long before an extreme law and order party get in and you start applyinng to other crimes. Birmingham Six admitted their guilt at the time.
 
If you had a 'police force' and 'court system' that was honest and true, then yeah some cunts should be hanged for their crimes..

Eye for an eye..
 
Southport & Pitchfork would be the thin end of a wedge. Reintroduce the death penalty for them and how long before an extreme law and order party get in and you start applyinng to other crimes. Birmingham Six admitted their guilt at the time.

If an "extreme law and order party" gained power in the country, it wouldn't really matter whether the death penalty had already been re-introduced for specific types of crimes...

The evidence against the Birmingham Six was circumstantial and a confession should also not pass the test, so no death penalty.
 
Nobody should be convicted if there's any doubt, whether it's for shoplifting or murder.

People have been convicted for confessing to murders they didn't commit, they would be dead if there were still a death penalty. In the Southport case it was pretty certain but there may a very similar case in future where it's not admitted, so how much evidence is required before you decide they have to be out to death? Is there a sliding scale of acceptable proof against circumstantial evidence?
 
Like I've said, in the post above yours.
No death penalty for circumstantial evidence, or confessions alone.
In the Southport case, the murderer still had the weapon in their hand, which they ordered, that they were seen stabbing little girls to death with, plus a video of them arriving at the murder scene just before the murders took place, were arrested at the scene of the crime while it was happening etc...
Death penalty...
 
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