Over 30 migrants dead in the Channel

Boris says he is shocked. I'm really surprised. This has been waiting to happen for over a year and seemed inevitable this would happen to me.
God knows how we stop these people paying the traffickers a fortune to put themselves at such risk but surely if the French play ball there should be some joint effort to stop these boats leaving the French beaches. Where do they get the money in the first place? Where do they get the boats from?
So many questions but I'm not yet seeing a solution from the politicians.
 
Boris says he is shocked. I'm really surprised. This has been waiting to happen for over a year and seemed inevitable this would happen to me.
God knows how we stop these people paying the traffickers a fortune to put themselves at such risk but surely if the French play ball there should be some joint effort to stop these boats leaving the French beaches. Where do they get the money in the first place? Where do they get the boats from?
So many questions but I'm not yet seeing a solution from the politicians.
“Where do they get their money from in the first place”
Folk need to realise that a lot of migrants worked and had good lives before we decided to bomb democracy into them or destabilise their country. They didn’t fuck goats and drink out of puddles.
 
But in all seriousness, if they can afford the thousands they pay to the traffickers, aren't they going to be very disappointed with their prospects when they end up here driving taxis?
 
But in all seriousness, if they can afford the thousands they pay to the traffickers, aren't they going to be very disappointed with their prospects when they end up here driving taxis?
Probably, shows how desperate they are to leave their country for what they consider a “better life” I’d suggest they stop watching MSM, they probably wouldn’t come then.
 
I'm sure the French Interior Minister intimated that the majority of them came thru Belgium which I'd never heard before
 
I'm sure the French Interior Minister intimated that the majority of them came thru Belgium which I'd never heard before
Sounds like deflection to me. Even if they have arrived from Belgium, there aren't many roads in Northern France in the 60km between the belgian border and Calais, some so they could be easily apprehended ifthe French wanted to.
 
Surprised that the left-wing hand whingers are not all over this thread blaming Boris or Priti. But then it is actually the fault of the French and we wouldn't want to criticise our 'friends and allies' in the EU would we?
 
Like most things we debate on here, it's not as simple as left/right or Remain/Brexit, Pen 4. I think that it was very fortunate for the UK that this happened in French waters as it turns the spotlight on them to up their game in this. Maybe the solution is for France to allow the UK to open a processing centre somewhere in the middle of France?
 
The boats apparently come from Germany.
What I don’t understand is that it can’t be that difficult to infiltrate these smuggling gangs. Be difficult to get to the top but they could at least stop them at source when the money is being handed over.
I also find it unbelievable that loads of them in these camps must have $1000’s cash with them. How does it not get stolen? It must do in lots of cases. What a mess.
 
Like most things we debate on here, it's not as simple as left/right or Remain/Brexit, Pen 4. I think that it was very fortunate for the UK that this happened in French waters as it turns the spotlight on them to up their game in this. Maybe the solution is for France to allow the UK to open a processing centre somewhere in the middle of France?
How about the West stops fucking their countries up. Yeah I know you won’t have any new books to read about the SAS infiltrating enemy lines and slotting a 14 year old goat herder and the latest Xbox game might be a bit duller and the next shoot em up series on the telly won’t say “based on a true story” for you to wet your knickers to but look on the bright side, in 50 years time there will be no need for poppy sales going towards boosting the legions funds.
 
Basically you're right, we should leave them to beat the shit out of each other and just make do with flogging them guns and stuff, maybe we could send a few of our nutters to show them how to kill each other efficiently
 
If only we had some sort of agreement with The French .
Can’t think why there’s been 200per cent increase in these boat people since 2019.
What could it be ?
 
Government sponsored immigration. If they get sent back instead of assisted and given food, housing and money they wouldn't come in the first place.

Its exactly the same as the Mexican boarder, if you hadn't noticed.
, a globalist programme.
 
Surprised that the left-wing hand whingers are not all over this thread blaming Boris or Priti. But then it is actually the fault of the French and we wouldn't want to criticise our 'friends and allies' in the EU would we?
Odd that the bumbling Clown Johnson is criticising The French for not patrolling their beaches to protect our borders we have supposedly taken back control of 😆,
And we are paying them 54 million not to do it 😂😂
 
Odd that the bumbling Clown Johnson is criticising The French for not patrolling their beaches to protect our borders we have supposedly taken back control of 😆,
And we are paying them 54 million not to do it 😂😂
I've just explained it to you, troll.
 
Surprised that the left-wing hand whingers are not all over this thread blaming Boris or Priti. But then it is actually the fault of the French and we wouldn't want to criticise our 'friends and allies' in the EU would we?
there's a lot of people with a share of the blame - but you seem to have missed yourself off the list. this was a known consequence of brexit, so you need to own that share.


(and if anyone didn't think this would be an increase in illegal immigration would be a consequeence of brexit then they are a fucking idiot)
 
there's a lot of people with a share of the blame - but you seem to have missed yourself off the list. this was a known consequence of brexit, so you need to own that share.


(and if anyone didn't think this would be an increase in illegal immigration would be a consequeence of brexit then they are a fucking idiot)


The argument you would pay thousands of pounds ( life savings for many of these folks ) and risk your life crossing the channel to spend weeks or months in a hostel living off measly benefits is patently nonsense .

It’s the line most of the MSM peddle and Uncle Nigel tells them is the case so it must be true .
 
there's a lot of people with a share of the blame - but you seem to have missed yourself off the list. this was a known consequence of brexit, so you need to own that share.


(and if anyone didn't think this would be an increase in illegal immigration would be a consequeence of brexit then they are a fucking idiot)
I have no 'blame' as your put it.

I voted to leave a corrupt political union.

If the French willingly assist these people then let it be on their heads. Add Border Farce and the RNLI to the list.
 
there's a lot of people with a share of the blame - but you seem to have missed yourself off the list. this was a known consequence of brexit, so you need to own that share.
If we believe that Brexit will make the UK a much worse place to live in with less jobs/choice/prosperity etc why doesn't anyone explain this to all of the extra people that seem to want to be here? Surely the promise land called the EU is a far better bet
 
If we believe that Brexit will make the UK a much worse place to live in with less jobs/choice/prosperity etc why doesn't anyone explain this to all of the extra people that seem to want to be here? Surely the promise land called the EU is a far better bet
Because for them it's against the possibility of losing their lives if they stay where they are.

Whereas this country goes to mush if KFC runs out of chicken, or if they can't get a pint down their local.
 
I have no 'blame' as your put it.

I voted to leave a corrupt political union.

If the French willingly assist these people then let it be on their heads. Add Border Farce and the RNLI to the list.

Are you now suggesting the RNLI should leave children to drown ?

In a nutshell what the vile Farage & co have done to this country .

Seriously fucked up
 
Because for them it's against the possibility of losing their lives if they stay where they are.

Whereas this country goes to mush if KFC runs out of chicken, or if they can't get a pint down their local.
Are the French killing these illegal immigrants now then?

I didnt realise that France or any other European counntry was a war zone - when did the conflict start? I must have missed it
 
Are you now suggesting the RNLI should leave children to drown ?

In a nutshell what the vile Farage & co have done to this country .

Seriously fucked up
Blah blah blah - Farage - blah blah - drowning children - blah blah - Bexit - blah blah blah.
 
Blah blah blah - Farage - blah blah - drowning children - blah blah - Bexit - blah blah blah.
Are the French killing these illegal immigrants now then?

I didnt realise that France or any other European counntry was a war zone - when did the conflict start? I must have missed it
So you are fleeing a failed state or war zone ( give it time )and would head for a country that didnt speak English or contain any family or friends would you ?
Yeah sure
 
So you are fleeing a failed state or war zone ( give it time )and would head for a country that didnt speak English or contain any family or friends would you ?
Yeah sure
I don't give a fuck where they claim to come from, what is convenient for them or why they want to come. If you are genuinely fleeing you don't get to pick where you find 'safety'.
 
Don’t know why we don’t encourage more to come . we are in the middle of a serious labour shortage
 
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