Our next manager

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I think sadly we’ve missed out on getting Potter as we won’t survive. Really think he’d have been a good fit.
So we need a good championship manager who hopefully can give us a good chance of going straight back up. For me it’s a no brainer. If Cov fail to come up ( please) then get Robins in. Knows the division well, has done miracles under awful circumstances ( had as bad a start as us with postponed games etc due to the pitch) and I’m sure would prefer owners like Top rather than the whole mixed bad right now.
Finally he’s ex Leicester, played under MON and he won’t have to relocate his family etc.
 
Above all, I think we need somebody with a really strong character. Since Khun Vichai died, a deep cultural apathy seems to have set in at the club. Top doesn't have the force of personality nor the ruthlessness of his father, and neither do the people he employs to run the club. There is a clear absence of leadership. Our only hope next season is to employ a manager with a strong enough personality to help reset the culture of the club, not just pick the team. If we just recruit a pleasant, media-savvy young manager who likes his teams to play nice football and prides himself on being liked by his players, nothing will improve.

Could Robins be a good fit? Maybe. He seems to have done well in difficult circumstances, which suggests he has something about him. I just hope the club recruits somebody with a bit of steel, not just a nice guy with a penchant for passing football who wants to be friends with the players.
 
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Above all, I think we need somebody with a really strong character. Since Khun Vichai died, a deep cultural apathy seems to have set in at the club. Top doesn't have the force of personality nor the ruthlessness of his father, and neither do the people he employs to run the club. There is a clear absence of leadership. Our only hope next season is to employ a manager with a strong enough personality to help reset the culture of the club, not just pick the team. If we just recruit a pleasant, media-savvy young manager who likes his teams to play nice football and prides himself on being liked by his players, nothing will improve.

Could Robins be a good fit? Maybe. He seems to have done well in difficult circumstances, which suggests he has something about him. I just hope the club recruits somebody with a bit of steel, not just a nice guy with a penchant for passing football who wants to be friends with the players.
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This is exactly why I think Robins would be a good fit. He’s achieved a lot despite a lot of adversity. They only won 1 of their first 10 games, a lot to do with playing a number of away games due to their pitch I admit. He’s not got any stars. Just organisation and hard work.
 
I'm too impatient for Robins. Seems to get decent results and year-on-year improvement but it's slow going.

If his record was the same, but at any other club, I might be more open to it 😁
 
We must have someone like Steve Borthwick was at Tigers.
Setting new standards and a big enough name in the game to attract like minded people.
He reversed years of drift after the club tried to extend the family feel which led to
embracing lower standards in a cosy environment. It would be good to look to those who
served the club well in their day but I struggle to think of anyone who would be strong enough to
combine a love from being here but ready to rebuild what is clearly a broken model.
If you look at Burnley they identified qualities in a relatively inexperienced man and seemed
to have gor it right. Kasper?
 
Here's why...
The Borthwick game (and historically the Tigers game) is built on set piece dominance.
They play for lineouts, mauls and scrums.
It demands a high degree of organisation and emphasis on cohesion.
So an emphasis on coaching.
Our problem seems to be that despite all the 'hard work' at Seagrave it gets lost on the bus to the KP.
Any rugby fan (not me) can identify the coaching aims by the game style,
Can we LC footie fans at the moment?
Perhaps a bus load of our Seagrave staff might benefit from a trip or two to Wigston road Oadby?
 
The problem at Seagrave was they were over coached and safely coached (pass it to the safe side) to the point of boredom and a fitness level a National League side would be ashamed of.

Football is the simplest of games, it has 17 laws, in our case it was made dull and difficult by a Gucci belt and an ego the size of the water between Larne and Portpatrick.
 
LGFOX said:
I think sadly we’ve missed out on getting Potter as we won’t survive. Really think he’d have been a good fit.
So we need a good championship manager who hopefully can give us a good chance of going straight back up. For me it’s a no brainer. If Cov fail to come up ( please) then get Robins in. Knows the division well, has done miracles under awful circumstances ( had as bad a start as us with postponed games etc due to the pitch) and I’m sure would prefer owners like Top rather than the whole mixed bad right now.
Finally he’s ex Leicester, played under MON and he won’t have to relocate his family etc.
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Robins is a good shout.
 
Reading all of the above, assumes that the club have a plan. However, based on factual elements in the not so long past, it’s clear the club has NO plan. Buckle yourselves in for a decade in the lower leagues and that’s if we are lucky to avoid double relagation. Our fan base has gone soft in the sense the place to much trust and hope on both the club board and players.
 
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Here's a question. Who genuinely believes our board will make an inspired managerial appointment this summer? Because I'm not at all confident about it...
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That we waited as long as we did to sack Rodgers, & then end up with Dean Smith (who I admit, could still get us out) speaks volumes.

We have literally gone from "elite" to "relatively bargain basement".
 
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I really don't see why we can only get Potter if we stay up, if the rebuilding job's right for him then starting in the championship shouldn't be a problem to him if it is then he's really not the man for the job, and even if we are relegated this is a great job for any manager outside of the big 6/7
 
There are plenty of good mid level euro managers who would jump at the chance of managing in England.
I don't buy the 'he knows the division' bollox, sorry.
Robins might do well for us, but be out of his depth in the PL and we're back to square one after a promotion (if kov go up he won't leave anyway).
We need a root and branch overhaul and a 3 year plan to get back to PL stability, not go for short term solutions.
Rudkin out for starters, a proper DOF, and proper recruitment team that is independent of any coach/manager coming in (maybe the soton guy will do, who knows), so that we don't get corrupt shit like bertand signing via an agent company both he and rodgers had ties to.
but most importantly a manager we put long term trust in and resources to turn things around.
It won't be easy, and it's incredibly frustrating as we seem to have gone back 10 years when we should've been a solid top 10 PL team for years to come.
 
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Here's a question. Who genuinely believes our board will make an inspired managerial appointment this summer? Because I'm not at all confident about it...
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That's one of my main concerns also!

They got a number of crucial decision wrong over the last few years, i.e. not letting Rodgers go earlier, having no replacement lined up, bad transfers, the DoF situation and so on, so they also need a change in their decision making OR a significant stroke of luck (similar to Mandaric with NFP)!
 
Tuz_Not_Tuzz said:
There are plenty of good mid level euro managers who would jump at the chance of managing in England.
I don't buy the 'he knows the division' bollox, sorry.
Robins might do well for us, but be out of his depth in the PL and we're back to square one after a promotion (if kov go up he won't leave anyway).
We need a root and branch overhaul and a 3 year plan to get back to PL stability, not go for short term solutions.
Rudkin out for starters, a proper DOF, and proper recruitment team that is independent of any coach/manager coming in (maybe the soton guy will do, who knows), so that we don't get corrupt shit like bertand signing via an agent company both he and rodgers had ties to.
but most importantly a manager we put long term trust in and resources to turn things around.
It won't be easy, and it's incredibly frustrating as we seem to have gone back 10 years when we should've been a solid top 10 PL team for years to come.
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Why would Robins be out of his depth in the PL? Genuine question. Frank was fine at Brentford. Potter came from the championship to Brighton.
What’s really pissed me off this season is the likes of Emery going to Villa, Lopetegui to Wolves and even at that moment Dyche to Everton.
 
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Why would Robins be out of his depth in the PL? Genuine question. Frank was fine at Brentford. Potter came from the championship to Brighton.
What’s really pissed me off this season is the likes of Emery going to Villa, Lopetegui to Wolves and even at that moment Dyche to Everton.
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What evidence do you have that he'll do well?
He strikes me as a Pearson/Bruce/Colin type manager, good at the lower levels but won't be able to cope with the pressure of the PL and be fired after a few months, leaving us in the shite again
If we look in Europe there are managers in say the dutch/belgian etc leagues who are managing teams playing in europe as well as domestic leagues that are not admittedly top PL level but still have a much wider range of experience than L1/champ. none of that means they'll be a success of course, but i think we can set our bar higher than a Kov manager.
btw - i saw richie de laet playing yesterday in the belgian playoffs. took me back a bit.
 
Tuz_Not_Tuzz said:
What evidence do you have that he'll do well?
He strikes me as a Pearson/Bruce/Colin type manager, good at the lower levels but won't be able to cope with the pressure of the PL and be fired after a few months, leaving us in the shite again
If we look in Europe there are managers in say the dutch/belgian etc leagues who are managing teams playing in europe as well as domestic leagues that are not admittedly top PL level but still have a much wider range of experience than L1/champ. none of that means they'll be a success of course, but i think we can set our bar higher than a Kov manager.
btw - i saw richie de laet playing yesterday in the belgian playoffs. took me back a bit.
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We won’t be in the prem though?
 
Tuz_Not_Tuzz said:
What evidence do you have that he'll do well?
He strikes me as a Pearson/Bruce/Colin type manager, good at the lower levels but won't be able to cope with the pressure of the PL and be fired after a few months, leaving us in the shite again
If we look in Europe there are managers in say the dutch/belgian etc leagues who are managing teams playing in europe as well as domestic leagues that are not admittedly top PL level but still have a much wider range of experience than L1/champ. none of that means they'll be a success of course, but i think we can set our bar higher than a Kov manager.
btw - i saw richie de laet playing yesterday in the belgian playoffs. took me back a bit.
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I’m not disagreeing with you. You make a good point about European managers. What about Will Still at Reims?
 
ClaphamFox said:
Here's a question. Who genuinely believes our board will make an inspired managerial appointment this summer? Because I'm not at all confident about it...
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Without sounding like a board apologist their managerial appointments have generally worked out.

PL title would not have been possible without the contribution of NFP and Claudio. Puel was what was needed at the time and he built the squad that Rodgers had success with. Rodgers appointment our first ever manager that was the best we could get and I had few reservations about.

Problem now is that our attractiveness and and options are greatly reduced.
 
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Wessy Boy said:
Without sounding like a board apologist their managerial appointments have generally worker out.
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They have indeed, and I agree with your assessment of the previous process / appointments but the problem is that many or most things about the club seem to have got much worse since the last appointment in early 2019!
 
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I would not rule Potter out. Our club needs a total overhaul and therefore time to get it right. It could be slightly lower profile role for him after the debacle at Chelsea and give the opportunity to recreate what he achieved at Brighton and Oresund. With the right support, it should be an attractive job. Whether there is the right support available is another matter.
 
Good call. We and Potter would be a great fit and he would bring in those he knows and who helped him get where he is.
The important thing is that we need to get a man to run everything to do with Seagrave, a job
which proved a bit too much for BR... The right man would not need a DoF.
Or a man to concentrate on playing matters but under a DoF.
 
Whatever we do, we can't afford to hang around. Only just over two months between the end of the Premier League season, and the start of the Championship one. We'll be changing well over half the squad in that time. So I'd be hoping the club has a pretty good idea now of who will be the Manager, no gain in waiting for the maths to be confirmed.
 
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