No more spaffing

And me Wints.
Not sure how I will manage this bombshell announcement.
The only consolation is I avoided the £25 season ticket tax!
 
wints said:
Soho's winter fuel allowance on half chance City bets. Reeves has scrapped the universal benefit. However will the likes of Soho survive?
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To be fair - I always thought it was a joke that folk like me and Mrs Soho automatically got £400 a year for faack all - to help with winter fuel bills.
Wasn't like we were struggling or anything like that. Would have been much better targetted at people who were in the shyte.
Thats why I made a joke of it by spunking it down the bookies (except that over the years I made a profit from the City relegation bets).
 
Sohofox said:
To be fair - I always thought it was a joke that folk like me and Mrs Soho automatically got £400 a year for faack all - to help with winter fuel bills.
Wasn't like we were struggling or anything like that. Would have been much better targetted at people who were in the shyte.
Thats why I made a joke of it by spunking it down the bookies (except that over the years I made a profit from the City relegation bets).
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Of course it was a joke. She's done the right thing here.
 
Same as soho, I've never understood what that was all about ' but it did pay for Mrs wellers xmas present!!! My only question is what they will do with the 1.5 Billion?? Probably give it to Ukraine along with the other Billions we haven't got for our own people, but if it allows there brave young men to attend events like the Euros in their droves and island hop around Greece like it it was an everyday event.
But I'm just a whingeing pensioner scrounging of the state!!!!
 
The issue is those that worked and made allowances for retirement get penalised yet again. Those that rarely worked or pissed it up the wall get looked after again. I've worked in social housing and going into houses with all the latest gadgets 70inch TV ect, and never done a day's work? It's not the £200 it's the principle
 
2 Pints of Lager said:
The issue is those that worked and made allowances for retirement get penalised yet again. Those that rarely worked or pissed it up the wall get looked after again. I've worked in social housing and going into houses with all the latest gadgets 70inch TV ect, and never done a day's work? It's not the £200 it's the principle
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You know it hasn't been completely scrapped, right?
 
2 Pints of Lager said:
The issue is those that worked and made allowances for retirement get penalised yet again. Those that rarely worked or pissed it up the wall get looked after again. I've worked in social housing and going into houses with all the latest gadgets 70inch TV ect, and never done a day's work? It's not the £200 it's the principle
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It's unfair on those just above the threshold for pension related benefits.

However there isn't a simple way to determine who needs it and who doesn't beyond what they've done.

Most pensioners didn't need it and the gap in wealth improvement between those above and below pension age was getting silly. This is just a small attempt to redress this.
 
NeuroFox said:
It's unfair on those just above the threshold for pension related benefits.

However there isn't a simple way to determine who needs it and who doesn't beyond what they've done.

Most pensioners didn't need it and the gap in wealth improvement between those above and below pension age was getting silly. This is just a small attempt to redress this.
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Basically as has been said above it disincentives people to plan and prepare for the future, it all depends on your idea of fair.

What should happen is for all public sector pensions to fall into line with the state pension age.
 
What? said:
Basically as has been said above it disincentives people to plan and prepare for the future, it all depends on your idea of fair.

What should happen is for all public sector pensions to fall into line with the state pension age.
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If this decision makes you think that preparing for retirement was a waste of time then you're misunderstanding it. It really is not that significant.

Wealth is flowing away from the young and towards the old. If you have kids or grandkids that should concern you.

Twenty years ago, pensioners had an argument for additional state support. They really don't anymore.
 
What? said:
The amount of money isn't significant to me it's the principle of it all, once again if you have been diligent you will suffer for it. I am also concerned that it might be the thin end of the wedge, many of us remember when Gordon Brown raided pensions.
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I understand that.

How would you go about rebalancing the economy so that younger people have a chance of a standard of living that their parents generation took for granted?
 
What? said:
The amount of money isn't significant to me it's the principle of it all, once again if you have been diligent you will suffer for it. I am also concerned that it might be the thin end of the wedge, many of us remember when Gordon Brown raided pensions.
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Ahh, so mentioning what Gordon Brown did is OK on your "too long ago to be relevant" scale? Can we have some guidelines on this?

As Soho says earlier, he didn't really need it, and this is the fairest way to stop paying those that also don't really need it. For those in greatest need the means test is there so they can apply for it.
 
NeuroFox said:
I understand that.

How would you go about rebalancing the economy so that younger people have a chance of a standard of living that their parents generation took for granted?
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Fortunately that is not within my gift, however by saying to the young there's not point in doing well in life because it will be taken away from you is hardly an incentive.
 
Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
Ahh, so mentioning what Gordon Brown did is OK on your "too long ago to be relevant" scale? Can we have some guidelines on this?

As Soho says earlier, he didn't really need it, and this is the fairest way to stop paying those that also don't really need it. For those in greatest need the means test is there so they can apply for it.
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As usual you manage to make yourself look like a bit of a prat by getting things totally out of context
Need is not the issue, encouraging care and future planning is and all this says is there's no point because the government will take it from you.
 
NeuroFox said:
I understand that.

How would you go about rebalancing the economy so that younger people have a chance of a standard of living that their parents generation took for granted?
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That's not the issue it's that fact that free loaders get looked after as per usual. Those that worked and saved get penalised.
The money is irrelevant. I spent years as an apprentice earning peanuts to get a decent career, while others live on benefits get everything now .
 
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