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Club_B00k_Crutchless

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If you want to wear a mask that's your thing. Lockdowns weren't legal. Show me why you would believe it to be much worse than flu etc.

Also it's not been tested, and you have no legal comeback on any harm that it might do to you or your family.

Honestly why did you feel the need to take an untested vaccine? Are you honestly that worried that covid would kill you? If so, can I ask how old you are? How fit and healthy you are? Do you have health problems already?
It has been tested. 1000s of people signed up to be tested before it was sent out to everyone.

I thought I had a dodgy heart. Turns out I don't. Well, before the vaccine obviously.

You don't care about segregation? I mean I don't want to be segregated. Let's just get on with our lives again.

What numbers are those? Numbers showing how many people in hospital have vaccines and how many don't.

Show me why you would believe it to be much worse than flu etc Like I said, we've argued it to death, I'm not going over it again. We disagree, move on.
 

jackieguaccamo

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It has been tested. 1000s of people signed up to be tested before it was sent out to everyone.

I thought I had a dodgy heart. Turns out I don't. Well, before the vaccine obviously.

You don't care about segregation? I mean I don't want to be segregated. Let's just get on with our lives again.

What numbers are those? Numbers showing how many people in hospital have vaccines and how many don't.

Show me why you would believe it to be much worse than flu etc Like I said, we've argued it to death, I'm not going over it again. We disagree, move on.
So are you against the segregation laws that companys, government etc are bringing in? Or are you in Fox-gophers gang of, I'm jabbed fuck you, I'm going on holiday and you're not, nah nah nah, ignoring the fact that you're having your freedoms ripped away from you?
 

Club_B00k_Crutchless

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So are you against the segregation laws that companys, government etc are bringing in? Or are you in Fox-gophers gang of, I'm jabbed fuck you, I'm going on holiday and you're not, nah nah nah, ignoring the fact that you're having your freedoms ripped away from you?
I thought you might have been able to work it out from what I said.

No, I don't want segregation.
 

AFCDorset

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It does not require a march. Just an understanding that some people have different views in an ever more complex world.
 

Club_B00k_Crutchless

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It does not require a march. Just an understanding that some people have different views in an ever more complex world.
Well obviously. I get that, that's why I was trying to engage in a conversation. It was Jackie that said let's stand together. He and a few others keep talking about how we're being controlled, but what are they doing about it, apart from posting on a football forum?
 

AFCDorset

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Well obviously. I get that, that's why I was trying to engage in a conversation.
OK. Generally speaking, although I am considered right wing by some on here, I consider myself very much a liberal. Not in the modern sense of course, but the old fashioned "you get on with your life and I'll get on with mine" sort of way.

The true evil at the heart of this plandemic is the idea of asymptomatic transmission of the virus. The idea that the un-jabbed can somehow spread an illness that they do not have to others who have been 'vaccinated' against it is absurd whichever way you look at it.

This is the authorities preparing the ground to blame the un-jabbed for the upsurge in illness among the 'vaccinated', who will, due to the compromises in their immune systems, become victims of the next 'novel' virus.

That is, generally speaking, my view on what is happening now and what will happen sometime this winter.

It is also important to realise that this is designed to frighten the population into accepting the 'covid passport' and the full time digital ID that it is designed to evolve into.

Resist!
 

Club_B00k_Crutchless

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asymptomatic transmission of the virus.
You still spouting that nonsense? Just an example. My daughter tested positive recently. Barely any symptoms and probably wouldn't have known she had it otherwise. Same for several of her friends recently. However, they could have transmitted it to someone much more vulnerable without knowing that they were positive.
 

bnet

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FWIW I wore a mask out of respect for other people. Lockdowns were a legal requirement. I couldn't have gone to work, the football or the pub if I wanted to. We've done this argument to death but I believe it's much worse than flu and doesn't just kill grannies.

I had both vaccines. I'm an adult, I made an informed choice. We'll soon find out if it means I can do things the unvaccinated can't, eg football.

Where I do agree with some of what you say, I don't want my children to have it. I know it's been tested, which is why I had it, but the long term effects aren't known. Most children don't get very ill from it. My eldest daughter tested positive a couple of weeks ago and barely had a sniffle. The main risk with children not having the vaccine is they could pass Covid onto someone more vulnerable. That's why the vulnerable should get vaccinated.

I also think many Govts are using it as an opportunity to exert control. They didn't plan it, but they are using it.
without trying to turn this into a row, there's a few points that you should look into.

Firstly wearing a mask as never been a legal requirement, they made you think it was because that's what they did and do, they lie, trick and confuse. This should be an alarm bell for everything else !
Secondly it IS the flu in most cases, l do believe there's a lab modified virus, and there's also been in the early part 5G turned up, for the press to scare the world world with. We all saw the people dying in the streets in Wuhan didn't we, what happened to that ?

The killed pensioners, no doubt, 100%, the ventilators were the wrong thing deliberately, they put people with a virus in a lockdown evirement with healthy old people who as per plan caught it and died. Why do you think any one with Coved on their death certificate were not given the grace of a post mortem, its the only way they could hide the real reason of death. Coumo is going down for what he did in New York, and others should around the world as well.

Theres a point that everyone should question the orders from all governments. You all will get there, a lot of us got there early.

Explain the Nightingale hospitals, explain the mass graves they dug, you don't dig mass graves unless people are already dead as you can dig a grave for a thousand people in one day if you wanted too quite easily, it was scare and conform tactics.

Regarding going football etc, its bollocks that they are trying to frighten you into getting jabbed, it not happening.

The jab itself- what does it do for you you ? it doesn't stop you catching a virus, it doesn't stop you passing on a virus and they don't offer you any benefits like going football and un vaxxed can't. One of the biggest lies, and there are mountains of lies that should at least get everyone questioning is asymptomatic, its a complete 100% made up lie, you can't be ill without symptoms is utter rubbish.

Now the tests, the test are completely false positive, anything magnified over 25 and you can prove you flip flops have got Green Parrot disease if you wanted to. This is the bedrock of all the lies, the tests, total fraud nothing else. Research it, its all there to find if you are really trying to find it, if your not you will believe the cover stories that they pump through their total control of MSM and social media. Just check the censorship od SM its unreal.

Heres another thing to ponder, how come every nation in the world as the same lock downs, same mask bollocks, same testing, same rule about reporting deaths, same jabs, same "free" money. Same press coverage, same contracts given to friends and family companies. How can EEFA officials travel without restrictions and we can't, are they genetically different to us ?

As for vulnerable people, what should you do, you should bolster their immune system not destroy it with masks, locking people inside, injecting point into the body. What about the cheap natural cures viruses and diseases, they have been hidden or banned, why, they work, no doubt about it. l can prove all of this, but the people who watch TV are bombarded with lies, its psychological warfare against the people, all expertly programmed by the Tavistock Institute. What about the modelling ? it was massively wrong, on purpose, no talk of it on you TV's is there ! They are still using it even though if it was made available for people to see, they would ask serious questions.

Start questioning little things, you will come to the right conclusion, then move on to the next strange thing they tell us, you will build up a knowledge of what they are doing to a start that you will think like the people who know all this by questioning things that don't add up.

Trust me, everyone WILL wake up, but for a lot it'll be too late !
 
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bnet

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You still spouting that nonsense? Just an example. My daughter tested positive recently. Barely any symptoms and probably wouldn't have known she had it otherwise. Same for several of her friends recently. However, they could have transmitted it to someone much more vulnerable without knowing that they were positive.
there's my point, just question the things you've said one by one !
 

Richardvanles

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You still spouting that nonsense? Just an example. My daughter tested positive recently. Barely any symptoms and probably wouldn't have known she had it otherwise. Same for several of her friends recently. However, they could have transmitted it to someone much more vulnerable without knowing that they were positive.
This is where I’m confused. I understand folk have bought into Boris’ scare tactics. I get that, and if you choose to get double jabbed then I’ve no issue, it’s your concern not mine. It doesn’t affect me same as me not getting it doesn’t affect you.
As you’re rightly pointed out.
Get the jab you can still contract covid.
Get the jab and contract covid and the symptoms should be less than if you had not got the jab.
So... by getting the jab and being less likely to suffer symptoms and become a super spreader without your knowledge.
By not getting the jab you’re more likely to suffer symptoms and therefore more likely to self isolate and keep Granny Grunt safe.
Isn’t that logic?
I don’t see how my decision to not have the jab affects anyone else regardless of the issue of how safe it is.
 

AFCDorset

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You still spouting that nonsense? Just an example. My daughter tested positive recently. Barely any symptoms and probably wouldn't have known she had it otherwise. Same for several of her friends recently. However, they could have transmitted it to someone much more vulnerable without knowing that they were positive.
That is exactly what you are meant to believe, there is no evidence that this is an important vector in transmission of covid.

Some people are more vulnerable, that is understood, but they will catch anything, far more important to keep them away from hospitals, nursing homes and genuinely symptomatic patients.

Corona virus is all pervasive, it is in everyone all of the time, everyone has 'got it' in the same way that everyone has rhinovirus or staph. They are, in different ways kept under control by our immune system.

Hope your daughter is ok.
 

Club_B00k_Crutchless

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This is where I’m confused. I understand folk have bought into Boris’ scare tactics. I get that, and if you choose to get double jabbed then I’ve no issue, it’s your concern not mine. It doesn’t affect me same as me not getting it doesn’t affect you.
As you’re rightly pointed out.
Get the jab you can still contract covid.
Get the jab and contract covid and the symptoms should be less than if you had not got the jab.
So... by getting the jab and being less likely to suffer symptoms and become a super spreader without your knowledge.
By not getting the jab you’re more likely to suffer symptoms and therefore more likely to self isolate and keep Granny Grunt safe.
Isn’t that logic?
I don’t see how my decision to not have the jab affects anyone else regardless of the issue of how safe it is.
It's not difficult Dickie. If Granny Grunt is also vaccinated, if she gets Covid she's less likely to be seriously ill.
 

bnet

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It's not difficult Dickie. If Granny Grunt is also vaccinated, if she gets Covid she's less likely to be seriously ill.
there is no evidence of that, its just been told to you by proven liars nothing else. Watch the video I've just shared on another thread.

If you stop accepting their word, and look at the people who have no agenda except they know that we are being lied to on a biblical scale.

You will get to the point that none of what they say stands up to scrutiny and there is an agenda that you can't see, why else would they lie ?
 

bnet

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Copped out there didn’t you, is it because you know I’m right. Explain how me how being vaccinated is going to save the world and get the girl.
to be fair to Club book, I'm taking it as hes considering others comments, that's all l want people to do because l believe everyone will see what's been going on sooner or later, I've seen plenty change stance when they start to think about certain points that resinate. On here we just argue and it becomes about winning arguments rather than any of us opening up to other thoughts. I know I'm as bad if not worse than most, but I'm a cunt :)
 
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