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Found this online...

Pte 10130 Sidney Winter MM. He enlisted in Ashby-de-la-Zouch, at the age of 18, on 17 September 1914. Sidney went to France with the 6th (Service) Battalion and remained with it until he was wounded during the attack at Bazentin-le-Petit on 14 July 1916. After medical treatment in England he returned to France on 2 March 1917 and was posted to the 7th (Service) Battalion. His Military Medal came as a result of his work during the brigade counter-attack at Polygon Wood on 1 October 1917. He was also wounded during this affair but remained in France. This brave young man was killed in action in the German attack at Epehy and has no known grave.

Sixth, sorry wasn't clear. I've read that on line before, but dont know what specific action leas to his award of the MM.

By coincidence he is commemorated at Poziers War cemetery, along with LGFoxes ancestor.

 

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Just going back to the Great War interviews featured is Harold Williamson who wrote Tarka The Otter. Also Cecil Lewis, author, founding member of the BBC and Oscar winner. WW1 flying ace and MC

The interview with the woman who lost a leg in an explosion at a munitions factory is very compelling

Cecil Lewis's book is superb

 

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Sixth, sorry wasn't clear. I've read that on line before, but dont know what specific action leas to his award of the MM.

By coincidence he is commemorated at Poziers War cemetery, along with LGFoxes ancestor.

If you go to the National Archives (on-line) you can find the war diary for the 7th Bn. There is a long description of the action that he was killed in. Basically they suffered a very heavy artillery barrage (at 4.45 a.m.) followed by a German counter attack at 5.20 a.m.

They suffered 26 dead, 115 wounded, 9 missing (maybe he was one of them), 7 gassed and 13 shell-shocked. Its worth looking it up

 

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Good book -cheap as chips

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Name: S Winter.

Rank: Private.

Unit/Battalion/Regiment: 6 The Leicestershire Regiment.

Service number: 10130.

Age: 20.

Hospital(s): 2nd Eastern General Hospital, Brighton.

Condition/Injury/Disease: Gunshot Wound to Back.

Details and Outcome: Patient admitted suffering with a gunshot wound to the back in the dorsal region. Outcome not stated.

 

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Name: S Winter.

Rank: Private.

Unit/Battalion/Regiment: 6 The Leicestershire Regiment.

Service number: 10130.

Age: 20.

Hospital(s): 2nd Eastern General Hospital, Brighton.

Condition/Injury/Disease: Gunshot Wound to Back.

Details and Outcome: Patient admitted suffering with a gunshot wound to the back in the dorsal region. Outcome not stated.

Thanks.

He survived this shooting and returned to France, and then as you mentioned above, was killed in the later German offensive. He IS one of those still missing from that day.

 

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Thanks.

He survived this shooting and returned to France, and then as you mentioned above, was killed in the later German offensive. He IS one of those still missing from that day.

I realise that he survived - I simply posted it because it quite rare to discover which hospital a soldier was sent back to - there is lots of stuff on the web about this hospital if you are interested

Ignore my previous comments on the action he was killed in - I mis-read the date that sixthswan posted. He actually died in the Kaiserschlacht, or 'Emperor's Battle'. On the day he died the army was pretty much in full retreat. The 7th were holding Epehy before retreating to Longevasnes - the War Diary has quite a lot of detail on actual positions on the day he died

Interestingly his full service record survives

 

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I realise that he survived - I simply posted it because it quite rare to discover which hospital a soldier was sent back to - there is lots of stuff on the web about this hospital if you are interested

Ignore my previous comments on the action he was killed in - I mis-read the date that sixthswan posted. He actually died in the Kaiserschlacht, or 'Emperor's Battle'. On the day he died the army was pretty much in full retreat. The 7th were holding Epehy before retreating to Longevasnes - the War Diary has quite a lot of detail on actual positions on the day he died

Interestingly his full service record survives

All those poor sods. Patched up only to get the chop later. Luckily my 2 relatives that I know served came back OK as far as I know. One was with the Royal Field Artillery the other the 8th Service Battalion of the Royal West Surrey Regiment (The Queens)

 

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All those poor sods. Patched up only to get the chop later. Luckily my 2 relatives that I know served came back OK as far as I know. One was with the Royal Field Artillery the other the 8th Service Battalion of the Royal West Surrey Regiment (The Queens)

They were men wholly different to us, living wholly different lives to us too - most that served came home but if you were fighting in the wrong action at the wrong time then the consequences were grim indeed. The more that I look into Sidney's story the more interesting that it becomes.

Enlisted 10 days after the Britain declared war on Germany and was in the first volunteer battalion formed. Fought and wounded at Bazentin in the Somme battle (the Leicester Brigade lost nearly 500 dead in 2 days). He gets wounded and is sent home. Eight months later he is back on active service, wins a Military Medal in 1917 but then has the misfortune to get caught up in the Kaiserschlacht where his battalion lose c. 250+ men dead in 2/3 days.

I have the Death Plaques for 3 Leicester brothers who served and died with the same Brigade as Sidney. One died at the Bazentin battle and has no known grave. Another died the day before Sidney and was buried by the Germans. His grave was mis-identified and he was buried as a UBS but the mistake was discovered in the 1980's (or maybe later) and his headstone was changed (that's a story for another day)

Sidney's memory lives on - we are talking about him now - who will talk of us in 100 years?

 

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They were men wholly different to us, living wholly different lives to us too - most that served came home but if you were fighting in the wrong action at the wrong time then the consequences were grim indeed. The more that I look into Sidney's story the more interesting that it becomes.

Enlisted 10 days after the Britain declared war on Germany and was in the first volunteer battalion formed. Fought and wounded at Bazentin in the Somme battle (the Leicester Brigade lost nearly 500 dead in 2 days). He gets wounded and is sent home. Eight months later he is back on active service, wins a Military Medal in 1917 but then has the misfortune to get caught up in the Kaiserschlacht where his battalion lose c. 250+ men dead in 2/3 days.

I have the Death Plaques for 3 Leicester brothers who served and died with the same Brigade as Sidney. One died at the Bazentin battle and has no known grave. Another died the day before Sidney and was buried by the Germans. His grave was mis-identified and he was buried as a UBS but the mistake was discovered in the 1980's (or maybe later) and his headstone was changed (that's a story for another day)

Sidney's memory lives on - we are talking about him now - who will talk of us in 100 years?

They were men wholly different to us, living wholly different lives to us too - most that served came home but if you were fighting in the wrong action at the wrong time then the consequences were grim indeed. The more that I look into Sidney's story the more interesting that it becomes.

Enlisted 10 days after the Britain declared war on Germany and was in the first volunteer battalion formed. Fought and wounded at Bazentin in the Somme battle (the Leicester Brigade lost nearly 500 dead in 2 days). He gets wounded and is sent home. Eight months later he is back on active service, wins a Military Medal in 1917 but then has the misfortune to get caught up in the Kaiserschlacht where his battalion lose c. 250+ men dead in 2/3 days.

I have the Death Plaques for 3 Leicester brothers who served and died with the same Brigade as Sidney. One died at the Bazentin battle and has no known grave. Another died the day before Sidney and was buried by the Germans. His grave was mis-identified and he was buried as a UBS but the mistake was discovered in the 1980's (or maybe later) and his headstone was changed (that's a story for another day)

Sidney's memory lives on - we are talking about him now - who will talk of us in 100 years?

They must have been very tough blokes. I would think a lot of them had tough lives in civvy street before they joined up. I remember reading that some recruits put on weight and even grew in height due to the army rations being better than the food they could get at home.

 

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They must have been very tough blokes. I would think a lot of them had tough lives in civvy street before they joined up. I remember reading that some recruits put on weight and even grew in height due to the army rations being better than the food they could get at home.

Sidney was 18 1/2 when he enlisted

He was a collier - maybe since he was 14 or so. Maybe it was a choice between the pit or adventure and glory - it was for many young men. We will never know