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Tell me where I'm wrong then...
Bad character = white.
That's not reality.
The darker skinned people. The religion of peace people.
Should be teaching that in schools instead...
Not white baddies.
 
sixthswan said:
Tell me where I'm wrong then...
Bad character = white.
That's not reality.
The darker skinned people. The religion of peace people.
Should be teaching that in schools instead...
Not white baddies.
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I do not need to keep going on. It has already been explained and you fully understand. I know you do, you know you do.
 
FoxInEssex said:
Why are the government then using fiction as a way of making a point that does not exist in this country? Is this a big issue in this country?

It is about race when you look at statistics and we all know if the kid had been any other colour in the programme, there would be no clamour for the government to use it. How stupid do you have to be to not understand?
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You don't think toxic masculinity is a problem? Never heard of Andrew Tate?

You're making it about race. There's plenty of stuff made about race but you seem upset this one isn't about race. Watch Top Boy if you want to watch black boys with knives and drugs.

I'm going to write to complain about Coronation Street showing a white boy stabbing another white boy in a ginnel. We know it's only 'them' that stab people.
 
Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
You don't think toxic masculinity is a problem? Never heard of Andrew Tate?

You're making it about race. There's plenty of stuff made about race but you seem upset this one isn't about race. Watch Top Boy if you want to watch black boys with knives and drugs.

I'm going to write to complain about Coronation Street showing a white boy stabbing another white boy in a ginnel. We know it's only 'them' that stab people.
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Islamic convert Andrew Tate? Yes funnily enough I have heard of him and his brother too. What does a made up story about Incels have to do with Andrew Tate exactly? Honestly, you really believe that this is the best thing to show school children on a government initiative?

I think you and Sixth Swan are deliberately missing the point as usual. No one has a problem with the series. They have a problem with using it for an alternative agenda. Not fucking difficult to work out. Please use something that is an actual problem in this country if you want to show school children. We know that will not happen though as diversity is our strength lol.
 
I've already said, I couldn't care less whether it is shown in schools or not.
You missed that, but you're clever and already know that...
 
sixthswan said:
I've already said, I couldn't care less whether it is shown in schools or not.
You missed that, but you're clever and already know that...
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So why are you arguing about it then? You make zero sense. The only thing I can think of is that you assume anybody who mentions the colour is a racist blah, blah blah. How sad for you.
 
FoxInEssex said:
Please use something that is an actual problem in this country if you want to show school children.
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Kids stabbing each other isn't a problem or relevant? They've got a ready made programme about stabbings to show school kids. Even if they don't talk about the toxic masculinity it's relevant and shows the impact on the family from a different perspective. But you want to make it about race.
 
Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
Kids stabbing each other isn't a problem or relevant? They've got a ready made programme about stabbings to show school kids. Even if they don't talk about the toxic masculinity it's relevant and shows the impact on the family from a different perspective. But you want to make it about race.
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Have a look at the statistics of the demographic committing stabbings and mysogyni. Do you think it is a good idea to use a made up story to teach kids? Using something that is not true and has no statistical baring on UK society is ridiculous. Of course race and religion come into it from the true problems out there in the UK today.

You mentioned Andrew Tate, not me. What has this programme got to do with Andrew Tate? If he is the problem, how in any way will this help?
 
FoxInEssex said:
So why are you arguing about it then? You make zero sense. The only thing I can think of is that you assume anybody who mentions the colour is a racist blah, blah blah. How sad for you.
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I'll write about what I want to write about.
The main point on here remains - people are upset about the bad character being white.
Nothing more...
 
FoxInEssex said:
Have a look at the statistics of the demographic committing stabbings and mysogyni. Do you think it is a good idea to use a made up story to teach kids? Using something that is not true and has no statistical baring on UK society is ridiculous. Of course race and religion come into it from the true problems out there in the UK today.

You mentioned Andrew Tate, not me. What has this programme got to do with Andrew Tate? If he is the problem, how in any way will this help?
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You weren't asking me, but that doesn't seem to matter.
Are you suggesting children should only watch non-fiction?
That they are incapable of learning from fiction?
Does all new fiction have to meet a strict criteria on statistical facts?
 
sixthswan said:
You weren't asking me, but that doesn't seem to matter.
Are you suggesting children should only watch non-fiction?
That they are incapable of learning from fiction?
Does all new fiction have to meet a strict criteria on statistical facts?
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Well actual facts are important for schools so yes it is really important the correct message is heard. Especially for children who are, in general, much more susceptable to what they hear.
 
FoxInEssex said:
Have a look at the statistics of the demographic committing stabbings and mysogyni. Do you think it is a good idea to use a made up story to teach kids? Using something that is not true and has no statistical baring on UK society is ridiculous. Of course race and religion come into it from the true problems out there in the UK today.

You mentioned Andrew Tate, not me. What has this programme got to do with Andrew Tate? If he is the problem, how in any way will this help?
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Well, they teach religion in schools which is all made up. Why does it have to be factual? Stabbings happen, it's a fact. Should they make a documentary a out a specific incident, but one showing black kids because it satisfies you and your ilk? Yes race and religion cause some problems, but should it be compulsory to make a programme about it? As I said, watch Top Boy if it helps.

I mentioned Andrew Tate because he's the poster boy of toxic masculinity. You have no idea, you're so out of touch with what children talk about.
 
Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
Well, they teach religion in schools which is all made up. Why does it have to be factual? Stabbings happen, it's a fact. Should they make a documentary a out a specific incident, but one showing black kids because it satisfies you and your ilk? Yes race and religion cause some problems, but should it be compulsory to make a programme about it? As I said, watch Top Boy if it helps.

I mentioned Andrew Tate because he's the poster boy of toxic masculinity. You have no idea, you're so out of touch with what children talk about.
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Yes I must be out of touch, what with having 2 teenage kids and a 23 year old son...
 
FoxInEssex said:
Well actual facts are important for schools so yes it is really important the correct message is heard. Especially for children who are, in general, much more susceptable to what they hear.
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You're saying yes then, to only 100% factual fiction.
Does that actually make sense to you?
 
FoxInEssex said:
Yes I must be out of touch, what with having 2 teenage kids and a 23 year old son...
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I'm sure you've got your finger in the pulse then, well done. One of the interesting takes from the programme, if you've actually watched it, was the parents realising they don't actually know what their children are up to.
 
Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
I'm sure you've got your finger in the pulse then, well done. One of the interesting takes from the programme, if you've actually watched it, was the parents realising they don't actually know what their children are up to.
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I think a lot of parents have allowed their kids to retreat behind their devices and neglected to fully engage them in family life. The kids access stuff they shouldn't see and become further influenced by peers that are themselves not mature. The over sexulisation of mainstream media also plays a part. Even daytime tv discuss topics under the pretence of education but is really there for titillating.
 
RegiRoka said:
To answer your question, I have no idea what I'd do. I know I wouldn't like to live in a country caught between NATO, the CIA (and all of that NeoCon activity, that was always geared towards conflict with Russia), and Russia itself. (I imagine if you have the mentality for it, it's very easy to stir a conflict up when you don't have to live with the consequences.)

I have every sympathy with Ukrainians. Unfortunately, they've been screwed by the west and Russia. And they're going to keep getting on screwed until a peace agreement is made. Don't let the UK media fool you: they are losing.

As far as I can see, in the west, there is only one bit of real leverage left and that is the threat of WW3. Do you want them to use it? Or would you prefer them to find a peace deal to end the war?

Your man Mystery is not up for any peace deal that gives anything to Russia. In other words he's for the continuation of war and zero compromise.

Same question to you too: if you don't want a peace deal that comes with being flexible with Russia, what is your alternative?
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Arent some things worth fighting over?
 
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