I've Got Bored Watching This Modern "Football"

You make a very good point.

I never understood why we adopted the mantra of turning to possession based football and moved away from the counter attack style that won us the league.

That style also helped us to avoid relegation the season before and then to do the impossible the following season. And it was bloody exciting.

There's many ways to win a football match and one is playing to your strengths - getting the players to do what they can do, and working on improving weaknesses. O'Neill wouldn't have tried to turn Savage into a creative midfielder - his role was to provide energy, win the ball, and give to someone with the ability to create - such as Muzzy.

I don't understand why when a team win a free kick which isn't in shooting range of the goal, just about every team want to pass it three yards asap and start again, when there's an opportunity to get players up the field and create scoring opportunities.

Maresca got us playing some lovely stuff but time after time in games we seemed to ignore the opportunity to attack and create scoring opportunities because 'structure' was everything.

I don't understand why defenders want to always play out from the back at all costs often inviting unnecessary pressure - there are times to play out and times to clear your lines.

And finally for all the structured play some teams adopt, one of the things top coaches can't cope with is other sides creating chaos. Often last season that was the main route to opposition scoring against us ... even if it did come about because of a couple of deflections
 
I was at the game tonight and I quite enjoyed it. There were plenty of chances and the atmosphere was decent all game.

Oh and the food was excellent especially the cheese board at half time. 😁🧀
 
I know exactly what Soho is saying and it's exactly what I commented on months ago.
On a technical basis the football is probably superior to a good old fashioned dust up.
On an entertainment basis it can be extremely tedious imo. No real pace or off the cuff bits of trickery, just a rigid methodical plan to outwit an opponent. A passion killer, boring.
The excessive sideways and backwards passing In front of a well drilled defence sucks the entertainment out of the game imo.
Anyone who watched Liverpool v Man Utd must of enjoyed a good old rumbustious clash.
No tippy happy, just two sides having a good go at each other and being brave enough not to follow the text book. There was no standing off, plenty of tackles and above all an enjoyable flow to the game.
If only that was the norm instead of this sleep inducing style.
 
I think what we witness now at the peak of tha game is the product of two main developments.
The first is the massive improvement of pitch quality which encourages technical ability over Jock Wallace style physical effort.
And the second is the infusion of great financial investment which punishes failure. So possession is valued and the approach is risk averse.
Not always, because it is possible to control a game with less possession (our best recent years of transition based play), but usually having the ball is considered paramount.
 
Brauny said:
I know exactly what Soho is saying and it's exactly what I commented on months ago.
On a technical basis the football is probably superior to a good old fashioned dust up.
On an entertainment basis it can be extremely tedious imo. No real pace or off the cuff bits of trickery, just a rigid methodical plan to outwit an opponent. A passion killer, boring.
The excessive sideways and backwards passing In front of a well drilled defence sucks the entertainment out of the game imo.
Anyone who watched Liverpool v Man Utd must of enjoyed a good old rumbustious clash.
No tippy happy, just two sides having a good go at each other and being brave enough not to follow the text book. There was no standing off, plenty of tackles and above all an enjoyable flow to the game.
If only that was the norm instead of this sleep inducing style.
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Nailed it.
 
Personally thought the first half of the Liverpool v Man Utd game was very poor, the second half was better.
 
Has anyone noticed that the new trend now seems to be to pass the ball straight back to the goalie from the kick off. Everybody seems to be doing it.
Another one I've noticed with us is that when we have a goal kick, Vesty passes it to the keeper. Surely it should be the other way round. It's almost saying that the keeper is the most skilful player in the team, it's just bizarre.
The goalie & defenders possess the ball more than any other players during a game. Who'd want to be a striker, you never a kick!!
 
Sohofox said:
Its not just cos City are shyte.
Its not a good watch anymore.
Watching Arsenal v Newcastle . Its just boring tippy-tappy crap.
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Down the years teams follow the way successful teams play don’t they ? Formations as a rule but this current way though it won Barca and now Man City cups aplenty I agree is mindblowingly boring as f.
 
Brauny said:
I know exactly what Soho is saying and it's exactly what I commented on months ago.
On a technical basis the football is probably superior to a good old fashioned dust up.
On an entertainment basis it can be extremely tedious imo. No real pace or off the cuff bits of trickery, just a rigid methodical plan to outwit an opponent. A passion killer, boring.
The excessive sideways and backwards passing In front of a well drilled defence sucks the entertainment out of the game imo.
Anyone who watched Liverpool v Man Utd must of enjoyed a good old rumbustious clash.
No tippy happy, just two sides having a good go at each other and being brave enough not to follow the text book. There was no standing off, plenty of tackles and above all an enjoyable flow to the game.
If only that was the norm instead of this sleep inducing style.
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Lpool manu was a tasty old fashioned gloves off battle , credit where due, loved it 👍
 
I've just finished reading Geoff Hurst's "Last Boy of '66" book and, in a chapter looking back at the final he writes: "This isn't the world of careful possession football where teams keep hold of the ball for minutes on end and get nowhere. The game ebbs and flows from end to end.....To me it's what football should look like."
 
Trouble is there too much money swirling round in the game today. Yesteryear was a 90 minute game of mistakes galore and the need to outscore your opponents
Mistakes now are pinpointed from every angle and debated like it was a crime, instead of realising human beings make mistakes and football is no different.
 
Sammy George said:
Has anyone noticed that the new trend now seems to be to pass the ball straight back to the goalie from the kick off. Everybody seems to be doing it.
Another one I've noticed with us is that when we have a goal kick, Vesty passes it to the keeper. Surely it should be the other way round. It's almost saying that the keeper is the most skilful player in the team, it's just bizarre.
The goalie & defenders possess the ball more than any other players during a game. Who'd want to be a striker, you never a kick!!
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That’s why many strikers end up back in midfield, make it more congested and lose the outlet to the front man. Drives me nuts.
 
lost and never to be found again is joy and entertainment football gave. 90 mins of forgetting life's worries, unless these bastards that run the game forget their bloody egos go back to the simple laws of old that people understood and didn't need a degree to understand
 
kendalfox said:
Trouble is there too much money swirling round in the game today. Yesteryear was a 90 minute game of mistakes galore and the need to outscore your opponents
Mistakes now are pinpointed from every angle and debated like it was a crime, instead of realising human beings make mistakes and football is no different.
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Nothing more infuriating than ex players turned pundits who spout ' he should have this ' or ' should have that ' as if they'd never made a mistake in their own careers.
Criticism of big errors is fine but the microscopic analysis of minor misdemeanors is unnecessary imo.
 
i watched an EFL game recently where neither team could string two passes together, it wasn't exciting it, was excruciating.
I'm not a fan of tippy-tappy, but there are far more important things that have ruined the game in recent years with all the tweaking of the Laws of the game, the shite level of reffing and VAR, the corruption, the awarding of the world cup to places it shouldn't be etc etc to be worried about than 3 extra passes to make a chance.
 
Brauny said:
Nothing more infuriating than ex players turned pundits who spout ' he should have this ' or ' should have that ' as if they'd never made a mistake in their own careers.
Criticism of big errors is fine but the microscopic analysis of minor misdemeanors is unnecessary imo.
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Ah yes, no love Gary Neville criticising Haaland when he misses a chance. The bloke is a striker, Neville was a right back, one has scored over 100 goals in England, the other less than 10 in his career.
 
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