Hungarian Football Crowds

I see the laughing imbecile finds it funny that a 21st century European government that passes laws against homosexuality is seen as hateful . I guess we all knew that imbeciles still think like that though .
AFC should know better .
 
I see the laughing imbecile finds it funny that a 21st century European government that passes laws against homosexuality is seen as hateful . I guess we all knew that imbeciles still think like that though .
AFC should know better .
I thought they didn't want LGBT Paedo lite to be shoved down their children's throats before the age of 18.

But if you wanna wear your wife's dress on a weekend, feel free, if it makes you happy and you're not harming anyone then strut your stuff VixenGopher, you go girl!
 
I see the laughing imbecile finds it funny that a 21st century European government that passes laws against homosexuality is seen as hateful . I guess we all knew that imbeciles still think like that though .
AFC should know better .

They did not pass a a 'law against homosexuality', they passed a law to stop it being promoted to children.

As JG says, if you are a grown up you can do as you wish in these matters. Children should be protected.

They also passed a law blocking muslim migrants settling in the country.

I have no problem with either policy.
 
So how do you ‘ promote’ homosexuality ? 😂😂
We all know it is a slippery slope to demonising gay folks . You don’t think it is a sign of repression and inevitably persecution.
Do you think gay people feel safer in Hungary now ?
 
Difficult to know as I do not know the situation in Hungary. Just that it should not be the schools remit to promote homosexuality, age appropriate sex education is fine but it should be factual and not agenda driven.

That said I did clearly say that adult sexuality is up to the individual. Personally I believe the promotion of the Trans and LBGT+ agenda in English schools is causing untold harm.
 
Protected from what exactly?

If protected from sex, well - it’s all a bit snow flakey, but ok…implement a blanket ban on all sexual content.

Otherwise just seems like rabble rousing…you know…demonise the “others”.


old men and their insecurities… :rolleyes:
 
Difficult to know as I do not know the situation in Hungary. Just that it should not be the schools remit to promote homosexuality, age appropriate sex education is fine but it should be factual and not agenda driven.

That said I did clearly say that adult sexuality is up to the individual. Personally I believe the promotion of the Trans and LBGT+ agenda in English schools is causing untold harm.
Difficult to know as I do not know the situation in Hungary. Just that it should not be the schools remit to promote homosexuality, age appropriate sex education is fine but it should be factual and not agenda driven.

That said I did clearly say that adult sexuality is up to the individual. Personally I believe the promotion of the Trans and LBGT+ agenda in English schools is causing untold harm.

AFC
Even if this were true which it isn’t what harm would be done ?
If you mean children are taught facts . I.e . Gay and Trans people exist . Why is that causing “ untold harm ?”
Given the misery most gay teenagers probably endured in the 70s when I was at school , I suspect a more tolerant and open attitude has had exactly the opposite effect .
Why are so many older folks so terrified of other peoples sexuality ? It’s Very odd
 
Protected from what exactly?

If protected from sex, well - it’s all a bit snow flakey, but ok…implement a blanket ban on all sexual content.

Otherwise just seems like rabble rousing…you know…demonise the “others”.


old men and their insecurities… :rolleyes:
Activist driven agendas.

And who is talking about a blanket ban? Not me.

That said, children do not have critical abilities, some things are best left until they do.

And stop with the homophobic slurs, pretty poor show.
 
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AFC
Even if this were true which it isn’t what harm would be done ?
If you mean children are taught facts . I.e . Gay and Trans people exist . Why is that causing “ untold harm ?”
Given the misery most gay teenagers probably endured in the 70s when I was at school , I suspect a more tolerant and open attitude has had exactly the opposite effect .
Why are so many older folks so terrified of other peoples sexuality ? It’s Very odd


Teaching children that gay and trans people exist is not the issue, I never said that it is. Tolerance and openness is one thing but slavishly following an aggressive agenda to children is not.

And you can pack it in with the homophobic slurs too.

Very sad to see you and Adumass resorting to name calling, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised but I though we had got past that sort of bollocks.
 
Activist driven agendas.

And who is talking about a blanket ban? Not me.

That said, children do not have critical abilities, some things are best left until they do.

And stop with the homophobic slurs, pretty poor show.

I'm not sure that reply was supposed to be directed to me, but if it was I didn't understand any of it.

I know you didn't suggest a blanket ban. I wondered why, if you felt children should be left alone until they are mature enough, you haven't proposed a blanket ban? Surely we should protect them from homo, hetero, bi, pan and all other sexual persuasions that night be too much for them to handle? Yet it's only the homo element that has caused the upset....

And if there was a homophobic slur in my post them it's one I'm unaware of. It's possible, Im a bit out of date on what is considered offensive,
 
I'm not sure that reply was supposed to be directed to me, but if it was I didn't understand any of it.

I know you didn't suggest a blanket ban. I wondered why, if you felt children should be left alone until they are mature enough, you haven't proposed a blanket ban? Surely we should protect them from homo, hetero, bi, pan and all other sexual persuasions that night be too much for them to handle? Yet it's only the homo element that has caused the upset....

And if there was a homophobic slur in my post them it's one I'm unaware of. It's possible, Im a bit out of date on what is considered offensive,
Actually, in a sense, I am suggesting a blanket ban until children are old enough to handle such information in a critical way. I am a great believer in letting 'children be children', not trying to hide anything but trying to keep things simple, emphasise the importance of the family (whatever the makeup) without taking sides, leave those decisions a little later.

I would include explicit sex education of all kinds in this, I do not want children to grow up in ignorance but neither do I want them exposed to an aggressive sexual agenda driven by social/political activists. But then I am an old fashioned conservative (small c) and think that mostly this aspect of education should, wherever possible, be left to the parents.
 
My lad is 16, he certainly didn't see it as an aggressive sexual agenda, probably because it isn't. They don't show gay porn vids in schools, well not as part of the curriculum.
I'd would have thought there was far more chance of it being parents who may push an aggressive sexual agenda. If they're singed up supporters of any religion, or just narrow minded, how likely are they to be able to give a tolerant and balanced view when this subject is broached at home?
 
Most people don't have a problem with a persons sexuality, but if you start wearing it as a badge and expect special treatment because you've lacked attention through your life. Then get over yourself, you're not special, I don't need to know your pronouns.
 
I think the truth is somewhere in the middle of those views.
As usual I find that having views that do not fit with the current SJW agenda does tend to upset some people. Good.

Applying this agenda to young children is abhorrent to me. Interpreting that as being anti gay, homophobic even, is the usual reaction from those fully 'on message' even though no such sentiments have been expressed.

I want people to grow up as happy and balanced individuals, capable of making their own decisions and making their own way in life. I strongly believe most people on here would want the same, I just think that currently, we are making a pretty poor job of that.
 
i have recent (i.e. last month) experience of this. my lad, 11 yrs old, has just had this part of the PSHE curriculum taught, and absolutely NONE of it could be described as part of an "aggressive agenda", or even any agenda. ffs.

you'd think they were being tied to a chair (oooh) and forcibly taught that gay is the way whilst rainbows were projected around the classroom and judy garland played through the tannoy. you really should do some research into the curriculum (you can start here), and the teaching guides, to get a better understanding.

some of this shyte sounds identical to arguments made by the placard waving lunatics outside that brummie school the other year. different reaction on there then, though.

i do love the imagery you paint though: this lone wolf, fighting the injustices of the world: the SJWs, the woke, like you're russell crowe in gladiator, burning your way through socialist society.
 
i have recent (i.e. last month) experience of this. my lad, 11 yrs old, has just had this part of the PSHE curriculum taught, and absolutely NONE of it could be described as part of an "aggressive agenda", or even any agenda. ffs.

you'd think they were being tied to a chair (oooh) and forcibly taught that gay is the way whilst rainbows were projected around the classroom and judy garland played through the tannoy. you really should do some research into the curriculum (you can start here), and the teaching guides, to get a better understanding.

some of this shyte sounds identical to arguments made by the placard waving lunatics outside that brummie school the other year. different reaction on there then, though.

i do love the imagery you paint though: this lone wolf, fighting the injustices of the world: the SJWs, the woke, like you're russell crowe in gladiator, burning your way through socialist society.
Actually Adumass, I think that 11 is about the right age to start this, cognitive abilities are being formed in the child and decent teachers can do a great job here, and I am sure many do. Clearly in this instance the system is working correctly which is great, if there is no 'promotion' of a particular lifestyle then it renders any laws against such promotion pointless in this case.

Personally I would like such laws to remain in place for any occasions where this balance is not right, hopefully just as a safeguard, I think all children deserve that and there are enough genuine abusers around for that to be important.

It's not an image Adumass, I am about to gird my loins and stride forth to do battle with the battalions of SJWs that infest Poole Old town, smiting all and sundry who stand in the way of my wrath. Around here we call that a 'boozy lunch'.
 
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