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NorthwestFox

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And assuming the figures and trends are correct, what do you think are the reasons behind it and where do you think that will the UK be by Christmas?
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Foxgolfer

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I’m reasonably optimistic about the U.K. . Given the numbers having had the booster. Hospitalisations ad deaths are falling slowly here , and the majority of infections are in school age children who thankfully have an incredibly low hospitalisation rate.
 

Daz40

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Hopefully then Foxgolfer we won't have a lockdown this Xmas. Fingers crossed.
 

bnet

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i, [Nov 21, 2021 at 01:03]
I hope the people in the UK realise, that in just about a weeks time or so, the governments ONS data base is about to be flipped upside down. As follows: 1stly we have all been waiting for a winter of huge death tolls of the jabbed.

Well, as of next week or so, any person who has received 2 jabs (deemed to be fully vaxxed) and as we’ve been saying will soon be filling up the hospital beds, will soon be deemed (UNVAXXED) by virtue of NOT having received their booster jabs, and this means when or if they are rushed to hospital, they will be treated as an unjabbed person, and if they die, will be added as a death of an unvaxxed person.

So, as we were all expecting a winter of deaths from the vaxxed, the dirty government have found a sneaky loop hole to categorise these previously double jabbed people as UNVAXCINATED!! And the finger of blame will be firmly pointed at us, the PURE BLOODS and yet we will know the truth, that the vaccinated are dying, and NOT the unvaxxinated.
There is an upcoming twisting of data, stats and the truth.

If the double jabbed people die before they’ve had the booster, they are labelled unvaxxinated.

What an absolute GIGANTIC LIE on the British people this will be!!


Lets see shall we !
If you double jabbed idiots start dying of cancer/heart problems/strokes/blood clots, its already happening for jabbee's yet the people who are too stupid to realise its a poison are also too stupid to save their own lives and understand anything.
 

NorthwestFox

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We that's your theory Bnet and you may be right, but I'm not sure you've interpreted the graphs.
My interpretation is that compared to the UK, mainland Europe has had it less during the summer, partly due to their almost 100% obedience and mask wearing in public while our numbers have been higher due to trying to get back to normal and making masks optional in the spring. I think
what seems to be happening now is that we in the UK seem to have achieved some kind of herd immunity. However it seems that Europe has been caught by another mutation of this delta variant. Whether that is enough to avoid a sharp increase in the next month renains to be seen.
 

Muzzdog

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Well Europe's "almost 100% obedience of mask wearing " ain't helping now so what does that tell you ? I'd suggest masks in public is not that effective
 

bnet

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We that's your theory Bnet and you may be right, but I'm not sure you've interpreted the graphs.
My interpretation is that compared to the UK, mainland Europe has had it less during the summer, partly due to their almost 100% obedience and mask wearing in public while our numbers have been higher due to trying to get back to normal and making masks optional in the spring. I think
what seems to be happening now is that we in the UK seem to have achieved some kind of herd immunity. However it seems that Europe has been caught by another mutation of this delta variant. Whether that is enough to avoid a sharp increase in the next month renains to be seen.
its all bull shit. Do you know that herd immunity is actually 12%. I guess not because none of you lot wouldn't be shouting about figures from liars if you did. Every single thing they tell you is a lie, thats everything, not a few bits, everything.

If you wear a mask you reduce your oxygen intake by 20% have you any idea what that does to a living thing ? no you don't. its fucking catastrophic actually.

If you want to check any of this shit out have a look at Gibraltar who have 100% jabbed, the country is in serious trouble and Christmas as been cancelled. Keep poison yourselves, we need the idiots out of the way so mankind can go forward.
 

Club_B00k_Crutchless

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If you wear a mask you reduce your oxygen intake by 20% have you any idea what that does to a living thing ? no you don't. its fucking catastrophic actually.
This is true. All the surgeons and staff assisting with operations are dead.

If the double jabbed people die before they’ve had the booster, they are labelled unvaxxinated.
 

astleyfox

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its all bull shit. Do you know that herd immunity is actually 12%. I guess not because none of you lot wouldn't be shouting about figures from liars if you did. Every single thing they tell you is a lie, thats everything, not a few bits, everything.

If you wear a mask you reduce your oxygen intake by 20% have you any idea what that does to a living thing ? no you don't. its fucking catastrophic actually.

If you want to check any of this shit out have a look at Gibraltar who have 100% jabbed, the country is in serious trouble and Christmas as been cancelled. Keep poison yourselves, we need the idiots out of the way so mankind can go forward.
Im curious. Not a mask fan myself, but a mask is restrictive enough to hinder 20% of oxygen, but not restrictive enough to stop a virus?
 

mac

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Quite possibly, but how do you interpret the graph, Mac and Dickie??
I don’t interpret graphs. If you ain’t noticed over the last couple of years they might tell I lie or two.

I don’t like to have to assume they are correct.
 

Lonesome Crow

Pay at the gate.
It looks like the countries that locked down early & hard seem to be getting it worst now.
We were better off having out final large wave in the summer.
We’ve had the highest incidence of Covid in Europe for a while but it looks like, now that our school population have reached herd immunity, it’s now endemic in the UK, with 93% of the population having antibodies, according to the ONS.
 

Richardvanles

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Quite possibly, but how do you interpret the graph, Mac and Dickie??
Graphs can say what they want to say depending on what facts you want to put in or portray. I’m not and never have been someone who says covid is bullshit, it’s the hype surrounding it that’s bullshit.
As I’ve said many times, I don’t watch television. I know that’s hard for some to grasp because it’s a ritual for them. Be it the news or different sports or the soaps or the latest film. I seriously have no interest in any of it. I’ll sit in my log cabin on an evening, have a couple of beers and either have itunes or YouTube on, listen to a bit of music. Maybe a game of darts, and watch the world go by.
Covid is just the flu to me, a little worse than “normal” flu but flu just the same.
I’ve spent the best part of two years now going to work when I’m supposed to, mixing with hundreds of different people from all walks of life with limited social distancing due to the nature of my job.
The wife works for the NHS dealing with covid patients daily (yes she got it early doors) and that’s about it. As Mac says, I go by what I see, not what I’m told to see. What I do see though is.
1. Billions of debt created that WE and our children and possibly our children’s children will have to pay back.
2. Huge companies making billions of profit for the few.
3. Tory donors given contracts worth 10s of thousands of pounds, sometime 100’s of thousands of pounds and more to produce fuck all worthwhile in this fight against covid.
4. A track and trace system that’s cost millions and is useless.
5. A two tier social system that’s developing that make no sense whatsoever.
6. The good and the great who have told us how to live our lives consistently doing what the fuck they like while placing fines on ordinary people for doing the same and often less.
7. Spending millions on make shift hospitals that weren’t needed and then mothballing them a few months later while everyone was saying there will be variants and further spikes. (But keep telling yourself it was ok to build them because it was better to be safe than sorry while then not saying that it would have been better to be safe than sorry by keeping them at the ready to reopen if needed but rather say get the jab to protect the NHS getting over run with unvaccinated covid patients)
8. A vaccine that we were told would end it all that doesn’t protect anyone from covid and people and the establishment insisting that those who do not want an untested vaccine being demonised because somehow they are a danger to those that are protected. The media and establishment have convinced them that the unvaccinated should get the same vaccine that doesn’t protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated and now the vaccinated have to have a second third booster jab. It’s utter utter bullshit and makes no sense whatsoever and on that note, if presuming your graph was correct then you vaccinated have nothing to worry about. It’s only the unvaccinated that are in the shit.
I could go on and on but there’s no point. Those that want to ignore the facts that there are some huge winners in all this, with measures that go way way above and beyond taking a bit more care of each other.
Those are the graphs I’d like to see, the money passing over to the already wealthy and the debt and misery it’s produced to the rest of us.
Challenge me back on anything I’ve said.
 

NorthwestFox

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Thanks for a measured reply. Really appreciated. I hope this can be the way forward from now on. l don’t think many can argue abort your financial points and thee test and trace debacle. I also agree that it’s almost impossible to separate political spin from facts these days and that there is a lot of divide and rule going on.
Seems to me the big question mark is over the efficiency and long term safety of the vaccines, and that colours the thinking of those for and agains vaccination.
 

bnet

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Im curious. Not a mask fan myself, but a mask is restrictive enough to hinder 20% of oxygen, but not restrictive enough to stop a virus?
fucking hell, everything seems to be beyond you, so you default always to MSM brain washed programming. You don't come on here for education, you come on here to argue, but you have no ammunition to argue, so what's the point !
 

Richardvanles

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Thanks for a measured reply. Really appreciated. I hope this can be the way forward from now on. l don’t think many can argue abort your financial points and thee test and trace debacle. I also agree that it’s almost impossible to separate political spin from facts these days and that there is a lot of divide and rule going on.
Seems to me the big question mark is over the efficiency and long term safety of the vaccines, and that colours the thinking of those for and agains vaccination.
Your last point is the only one that matters to me. None of us know really what’s going on. Well I certainly don’t, not hand on heart but it’s pretty much nailed on that a lot of people are having serious adverse affects from the vaccine and others are dying. That’s short term. Our grand and glorious leaders have agreed that there will be no redress in a court of law against these companies if it all goes pear shaped and it seems to me that the one agenda is being pumped out while anyone questioning it or offering an alternative view is classed as giving out false info and their platform is being removed. That in itself makes me very suspicious.
Just imagine for a second if, in two years time say, after everyone’s now reliant on a booster, even our kids, and it comes out that it’s doing us more harm than good. I guess at the moment the real question is how big you, I or anyone else thinks that if is.
To say that it’s completely safe is crazy, also to say it’s completely lethal is equally as crazy, so that if remains until it’s long term effects are proven otherwise one way or the other and from a moral stand I want no part of it until there’s proof.
Many on here have pointed to brilliant vaccines that have worked and eradicated different diseases over the years. Those have taken years, sometimes twenty years plus to develop and make safe. This one was knocked up in 5 minutes and we’re told it’s safe.
For me that IF is too big to commit to.
 

astleyfox

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fucking hell, everything seems to be beyond you, so you default always to MSM brain washed programming. You don't come on here for education, you come on here to argue, but you have no ammunition to argue, so what's the point !
Yes. So why do masks stop you breathing but fail to stop virii?
 
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