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perdix

Roofer
Thanks bnet - i'll watch it later.
I'm confused by the varying views on this subject - not sure whether to have my first jab tomorrow , wait a few months or not at all.
Your opponents on here could counter your video with the Full Fact link below.
No wonder us neutrals are confused by it all!


 

bnet

Roofer
look for the agenda mate, one side as a financial interest another doesn't. My opinion is its basically suicide and if you are arware of the bigger picture you will understand why. If l can't convince you not to have it, l hope l can give you enough food for thought to delay.

There are no genuine pluses to the jab, this video explains, but theres not even any that stand up being offered. They tell you, you can still get it, you can still pass it on, you still have to wear a mask, you still have to lock down. There also is court ruling that you can't be discriminated against by not having it, that means they can't stop you gong in a put, on a plane or anywhere for that matter by not having it. There is NO reason whatsoever to have it and so many not too. Theres more, that will compound this but i'm sick of the idiots on here and arguing with them, i've blocked a coule for my own mental health actually.

Weigh it up !
 
Thanks bnet - i'll watch it later.
I'm confused by the varying views on this subject - not sure whether to have my first jab tomorrow , wait a few months or not at all.
Your opponents on here could counter your video with the Full Fact link below.
No wonder us neutrals are confused by it all!


Just delay your Jab until the true facts are out , why put a experimental vaccine in you when you can watch others test it for you?
 

tudor_fox

Roofer
Thanks bnet - i'll watch it later.
I'm confused by the varying views on this subject - not sure whether to have my first jab tomorrow , wait a few months or not at all.
Your opponents on here could counter your video with the Full Fact link below.
No wonder us neutrals are confused by it all!


The choice is yours

Have a potentially life saving jab

Or believe a wind up
 

Foxgolfer

Roofer
Or a potentially life threating Jab?
There is a lot of evidence that the more people vaccinated the less chance there is of new variants establishing themselves and sending us back 12 months .
Very worrying news from Brazil that hospitals are full of patients in their 40s and 50s as well as older folk . That is the nightmare scenario stio but currently very possible while do many remain unprotected . Data is as yet inconclusive whether current vaccines protect against Brazilian variant . However the lower the rates of infection become the easier it is to stamp it out when found . France is very worrying at present as 40% of infections are now the South African variant .
It is clear the risks of the vaccine are ourtweighed overwhelmingly by the risks of catching a very very nasty virus which could incapacitate you for months or kill you .
I think there is a public duty to get vaccinated to protect yourself and others as far as possible and keep infections low so very nasty surprises are lessened
Not everyone agrees and I agree it should be a choice, but if you choose not to protect yourself and others , I think the majority agree that certain restrictions should be in place, regarding your freedom to mix in public places and travel where the virus is most likely to transmit .
I have to say that misinformation and vaccine hesitancy ford not make me optimistic we will be free of this any time soon
 
There is a lot of evidence that the more people vaccinated the less chance there is of new variants establishing themselves and sending us back 12 months .
Very worrying news from Brazil that hospitals are full of patients in their 40s and 50s as well as older folk . That is the nightmare scenario stio but currently very possible while do many remain unprotected . Data is as yet inconclusive whether current vaccines protect against Brazilian variant . However the lower the rates of infection become the easier it is to stamp it out when found . France is very worrying at present as 40% of infections are now the South African variant .
It is clear the risks of the vaccine are ourtweighed overwhelmingly by the risks of catching a very very nasty virus which could incapacitate you for months or kill you .
I think there is a public duty to get vaccinated to protect yourself and others as far as possible and keep infections low so very nasty surprises are lessened
Not everyone agrees and I agree it should be a choice, but if you choose not to protect yourself and others , I think the majority agree that certain restrictions should be in place, regarding your freedom to mix in public places and travel where the virus is most likely to transmit .
I have to say that misinformation and vaccine hesitancy ford not make me optimistic we will be free of this any time soon
You claim to be open minded but will only believe msm, The vaccine has not been around long enough to show its long term effects and is unlike any vaccine given to humans before, so to spout out things like they are facts is only guesswork. Scientists claim the virus mutates every 10 hours so the vaccine may be out of date by now, but who knows? If a vaccine passport is needed then it will go against common law and basic human rights but in any event I will still not take the vaccine. Your body your choice , my body my choice simples. Why do you think I am responsible for your health? If the vaccine is safe and works then what ever I do will have no effect on your life, If its not, then I was right not to take it and you maybe have bigger problems than you think?
 

Foxgolfer

Roofer
You claim to be open minded but will only believe msm, The vaccine has not been around long enough to show its long term effects and is unlike any vaccine given to humans before, so to spout out things like they are facts is only guesswork. Scientists claim the virus mutates every 10 hours so the vaccine may be out of date by now, but who knows? If a vaccine passport is needed then it will go against common law and basic human rights but in any event I will still not take the vaccine. Your body your choice , my body my choice simples. Why do you think I am responsible for your health? If the vaccine is safe and works then what ever I do will have no effect on your life, If its not, then I was right not to take it and you maybe have bigger problems than you think?
Nightclubs can refuse entry if you wear trainers or jeans . So why can’t football businesses or airlines refuse access unless you provide evidence of vaccination ?
Genuine question?
 

Outfoxed

Roofer
Whether you get vaccinated or not is a personal choice. Posting videos and links on here for either opinion like your some kind of genius educating people makes you come across as arrogant and an arsehole.

get vaccinated or don’t but spare us your condescending posts about why you’re right and everyone else is stupid/fucking idiot.
 

bnet

Roofer
Whether you get vaccinated or not is a personal choice. Posting videos and links on here for either opinion like your some kind of genius educating people makes you come across as arrogant and an arsehole.

get vaccinated or don’t but spare us your condescending posts about why you’re right and everyone else is stupid/fucking idiot.
just fuck off you bitter twat.
 
Whether you get vaccinated or not is a personal choice. Posting videos and links on here for either opinion like your some kind of genius educating people makes you come across as arrogant and an arsehole.

get vaccinated or don’t but spare us your condescending posts about why you’re right and everyone else is stupid/fucking idiot.
surly this is just for information so you can make an educated choice? Why the aggression ?
 
Nightclubs can refuse entry if you wear trainers or jeans . So why can’t football businesses or airlines refuse access unless you provide evidence of vaccination ?
Genuine question?
I have no doubt that the agenda is for vaccine passports, I also think to push the vaccines there will be a third wave far worse than what we have faced up to know, vaccines will be recommended at least yearly. So I accept that I have an up hill battle not to conform.
 

Foxgolfer

Roofer
I really don’t understand why , given the evidence of friends and family suffering long term serious illnesses or death from the most horrific symptoms , anyone would hesitate for an instant when given the chance to protect themselves .
 
Why would you make such an important decision based on what people post on here.
Not only on here , but I study all outlets of information even those I do not like. I agree with you that taking the vaccine is a very important decision but not necessarily one everybody has to make right now? So all I ask is look at all the information ( maybe see how others react to it in a few weeks time ) then make a decision? Things are changing fast right now, but remember its not a normal vaccine, this works differently by sending a recipe to your body to catch the virus and disarm it, nobody knows long term if it will also attack the immune system too. there is no come back on the makers so it is a big decision.
 

Outfoxed

Roofer
Not only on here , but I study all outlets of information even those I do not like. I agree with you that taking the vaccine is a very important decision but not necessarily one everybody has to make right now? So all I ask is look at all the information ( maybe see how others react to it in a few weeks time ) then make a decision? Things are changing fast right now, but remember its not a normal vaccine, this works differently by sending a recipe to your body to catch the virus and disarm it, nobody knows long term if it will also attack the immune system too. there is no come back on the makers so it is a big decision.
Yes I agree with you, I find it odd that people think posting on here will change people’s minds though, I don’t understand why people can’t just make their own minds up without feeling the need to tell/convince other people to do the same as them.

Have it or don’t I’m really not bothered either way I just don’t understand why people feel the need to tell others how to live their lives.

I really don’t understand why people get so angry because other people aren’t doing the same as them.
 
Yes I agree with you, I find it odd that people think posting on here will change people’s minds though, I don’t understand why people can’t just make their own minds up without feeling the need to tell/convince other people to do the same as them.

Have it or don’t I’m really not bothered either way I just don’t understand why people feel the need to tell others how to live their lives.

I really don’t understand why people get so angry because other people aren’t doing the same as them.
Well lets look on it that we all care about each other and do not want anyone hurt by making an uninformed decision :)
 
I really don’t understand why , given the evidence of friends and family suffering long term serious illnesses or death from the most horrific symptoms , anyone would hesitate for an instant when given the chance to protect themselves .
Because some of us believe that taking an experimental vaccine is more risk than a virus that kills mainly over 80s and people with underlying conditions. At the moment we still have to wear masks and self isolate even when vaccinated so if it does not stop transmission I will wait and let you guys trial it for me.
 

bnet

Roofer

this is great, if its your sort of thing, i've know about this for years but not the nitty gritty. Some on here shouldn't watch it because they won't be able to understand any of it, that includes people who can't think of a 2 letter word begining with B.
 

Swinster

Non-Member
There is a lot of evidence that the more people vaccinated the less chance there is of new variants establishing themselves and sending us back 12 months .
Very worrying news from Brazil that hospitals are full of patients in their 40s and 50s as well as older folk . That is the nightmare scenario stio but currently very possible while do many remain unprotected . Data is as yet inconclusive whether current vaccines protect against Brazilian variant . However the lower the rates of infection become the easier it is to stamp it out when found . France is very worrying at present as 40% of infections are now the South African variant .
It is clear the risks of the vaccine are ourtweighed overwhelmingly by the risks of catching a very very nasty virus which could incapacitate you for months or kill you .
I think there is a public duty to get vaccinated to protect yourself and others as far as possible and keep infections low so very nasty surprises are lessened
Not everyone agrees and I agree it should be a choice, but if you choose not to protect yourself and others , I think the majority agree that certain restrictions should be in place, regarding your freedom to mix in public places and travel where the virus is most likely to transmit .
I have to say that misinformation and vaccine hesitancy ford not make me optimistic we will be free of this any time soon
Vaccine or not can u honestly seeing it going back to pre March 2020
 

bnet

Roofer
Vaccine or not can u honestly seeing it going back to pre March 2020
not at all, the world will turn into a wonderful place or hell ! fucknose what shit you were replying from that wanker. Its good not reading his toxic rubbish.
 

this is great, if its your sort of thing, i've know about this for years but not the nitty gritty. Some on here shouldn't watch it because they won't be able to understand any of it, that includes people who can't think of a 2 letter word begining with B.
Sacha Stone has a contact that teaches this as a training course.
 

Swinster

Non-Member
not at all, the world will turn into a wonderful place or hell ! fucknose what shit you were replying from that wanker. Its good not reading his toxic
Not only on here , but I study all outlets of information even those I do not like. I agree with you that taking the vaccine is a very important decision but not necessarily one everybody has to make right now? So all I ask is look at all the information ( maybe see how others react to it in a few weeks time ) then make a decision? Things are changing fast right now, but remember its not a normal vaccine, this works differently by sending a recipe to your body to catch the virus and disarm it, nobody knows long term if it will also attack the immune system too. there is no come back on the makers so it is a big decision.
Well put
 

Mistryman

Non-Member

this is great, if its your sort of thing, i've know about this for years but not the nitty gritty. Some on here shouldn't watch it because they won't be able to understand any of it, that includes people who can't think of a 2 letter word begining with B.
Best to type it correctly in the first place then, so it leaves less to guessing.
 

m4DD0gg

Non-Member

good lord this video has more holes in it then bnets frazzled brain

the over riding reason why the UK is in lock down is to stop the nhs from being overwhelmed, not some bizarre conspiracy.......if we did not lock down absolute basic medical utility would not work and FAR MORE people would die without a functioning nhs
 
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