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Dorset that’s not what I mean.

The inheritance tax system props up the Class system.

Theres a huge difference between aspiration and the wealthy who get spoon fed a huge advantage in life.

There is a lot of attention to racism at the minute, but it’s a blunt debate. Unless the country has a grown up debate about Class it’s knackered. People talking about white privilege when that is only part of the point. Theres plenty of white people struggling to get jobs. Class privilege isn’t debated and yet they go hand in hand.

But then the middle class left won’t want to have that debate as they are part of that privileged class.
Morning Bbb, thanks for the reply.

My view is that most inherited wealth is relatively modest in size and comes from hard work and endeavour, often over generations. I very much consider that to be a positive. A relatively small number of people have inherited wealth that they did not actually work for but they are relatively few.

In my experience people who do well in this country are those brought up by decent parents, those who support their children's education and life choices and help them set up a basis for a decent life. This for me is one of the fundamentals of 'middle class' life, building a better life for your family and children. I want to see that encouraged for everyone, not torn down by the state as it is at this time.

'Privilege', in the way that you are using it, is largely earned and very much a positive. Give people the opportunity to to earn that 'privilege' for themselves, whatever their background.
 
Morning Bbb, thanks for the reply.

My view is that most inherited wealth is relatively modest in size and comes from hard work and endeavour, often over generations. I very much consider that to be a positive. A relatively small number of people have inherited wealth that they did not actually work for but they are relatively few.

In my experience people who do well in this country are those brought up by decent parents, those who support their children's education and life choices and help them set up a basis for a decent life. This for me is one of the fundamentals of 'middle class' life, building a better life for your family and children. I want to see that encouraged for everyone, not torn down by the state as it is at this time.

'Privilege', in the way that you are using it, is largely earned and very much a positive. Give people the opportunity to to earn that 'privilege' for themselves, whatever their background.
I like your utopian way of thinking but where it falls down is there is a significant amount of folk who don’t have the luxury of spare cash to invest in their children’s future. Whose children held back by the school they attend or the colour of their skin.
Opportunities for people to better their life and the lives of their children needs to be promoted but also the playing field needs to be levelled somewhat.
 
I like your utopian way of thinking but where it falls down is there is a significant amount of folk who don’t have the luxury of spare cash to invest in their children’s future. Whose children held back by the school they attend or the colour of their skin.
Opportunities for people to better their life and the lives of their children needs to be promoted but also the playing field needs to be levelled somewhat.
It really is not about money Richard, it is about family, good parenting and opportunity. We were council estate poor, never owned a car, never could afford a telephone but my parents worked hard, made decent, mostly good choices and supported me as a child.

In the '50s and '60s that worked, the big difference though was selective schools based almost exclusively on aptitude. Not perfect but the 11 plus allowed kids from the Monsell to get a decent education and eventually a good life. That was a good basis to start from, more needed to be done for those who did not make the grammar schools but it could have been done.

Instead we got the disgraceful comprehensive system that stratified people by money and where they lived (much the same thing), instead of ability, conscientiousness and work ethic. It made it really hard for kids to get on as the 'too cool for school' attitude became commonplace.
 
It really is not about money Richard, it is about family, good parenting and opportunity. We were council estate poor, never owned a car, never could afford a telephone but my parents worked hard, made decent, mostly good choices and supported me as a child.

In the '50s and '60s that worked, the big difference though was selective schools based almost exclusively on aptitude. Not perfect but the 11 plus allowed kids from the Monsell to get a decent education and eventually a good life. That was a good basis to start from, more needed to be done for those who did not make the grammar schools but it could have been done.

Instead we got the disgraceful comprehensive system that stratified people by money and where they lived (much the same thing), instead of ability, conscientiousness and work ethic. It made it really hard for kids to get on as the 'too cool for school' attitude became commonplace.
Different era though wasn’t it 50’s, 60’s and 70’s were pretty much boom for everyone at different levels. The 70’s gave us equality so women were paid the same as men. Move into the 80’s and the unions were destroyed and the workers living wage was reduced so the main bread winners wages with a top up from pin money for holidays and luxuries was no longer enough to get by. Then we end up in the 90’s whereby the typical working class family both parents had to work just to get a living wage. Kids get left to fend for themselves or retired grandparents stepped in to help.
We’re now in a situation where the grandparents can’t help now because they have to be in bed by 9pm as they’re on the early shift!
The establishment has played a master stroke over the years giving the people what they think they want and we’ve took it all like I dog that doesn’t know when to stop eating.
Mirrors this corona virus scam.
 
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