Greg Wallace

There are some interesting points being made here. I think this is a complicated issue.

Wallace is a working class man of a certain age (60). He will have grown up with sexualised 'banter' being normal and expected. I think he's admitted to being an ex-Millwall hooligan and they're not often the most enlightened sorts.

He can certainly be annoying on TV but I like to see a 'normal' man on mainstream programming, rather than a parade of Oxbridge dullards.

With all this in mind, I can see why he views the situation the way he does and has said the things he has.

The problem I have with him is that he's obviously been the subject of several complaints about his behaviour and it hasn't resulted in him learning what is appropriate in the world he works in. The production company appear to have made it all worse too.

That suggests to me that Wallace is a very arrogant man. He's got away with being inappropriate so much he doesn't see it as a problem. If you don't learn and adapt as a 60 year old professional man in a middle class world, you're probably heading for a fall.
 
First and foremost is he guilty of said allegations?

There's an enquiry isn't there ?

So whilst people want to be judge and jury, wouldn't it be better for those that don't know the full facts to remember that their own derogatory remarks are contributing to a man's career being ruined.

If its found that he is guilty of crossing a red line, then feel free to vent your anger and hopefully then and only then should he face consequences.
 
Brauny said:
First and foremost is he guilty of said allegations?

There's an enquiry isn't there ?

So whilst people want to be judge and jury, wouldn't it be better for those that don't know the full facts to remember that their own derogatory remarks are contributing to a man's career being ruined.

If its found that he is guilty of crossing a red line, then feel free to vent your anger and hopefully then and only then should he face consequences.
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Derogatory comments on a football based chat page are contributing to a man’s career being ruined? Delusions of grandeur? 😏
 
Brauny said:
First and foremost is he guilty of said allegations?

There's an enquiry isn't there ?

So whilst people want to be judge and jury, wouldn't it be better for those that don't know the full facts to remember that their own derogatory remarks are contributing to a man's career being ruined.

If its found that he is guilty of crossing a red line, then feel free to vent your anger and hopefully then and only then should he face consequences.
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Good point. Let's just think of this nice little exchange with the lovely man.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1043229555924918274
 
This is actually an important story

A powerful man abused his position, and it has only come to light because some confident, secure women have spoken up. The nature of that environment is that there will have been plenty of people who found his behaviour uncomfortable who were less secure in their position/career to be able to stand up to him.

Richard Osman covers this well on his podcast.
 
Neither he nor this story are important, he is a bloke that talks bollocks on the telly who was rude to some women a while ago.
 
Where's your line rino? What level of discomfort is it acceptable for your daughter to face whilst she is at work?

some people will feel discomfort at a lower / higher level than others. Feels like it's just common courtesy to be aware of that, particularly at work, and just try to be nice to people. Especially once you been asked (warned) two, three, four+ times previously . It's not a radical position.
 
But it's getting to the point where someone will always find something to be upset about. We all have people we don't like, some are pervy old buggers like this twat some have political/social views we don't like, my point was if you don't like do something about it and basically stay away from them. Plus as I've said before this man is an insignificant worm his actions are barely news worthy and most certainly not headline material.
 
What? said:
But it's getting to the point where someone will always find something to be upset about. We all have people we don't like, some are pervy old buggers like this twat some have political/social views we don't like, my point was if you don't like do something about it and basically stay away from them. Plus as I've said before this man is an insignificant worm his actions are barely news worthy and most certainly not headline material.
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In general life, I agree...you can try to avoid the person.

But at work, particularly with his role, I imagine it's impossible to do your job and avoid the main presenter. Hair, makeup, production, camera...whatever...I guess it's hard to keep distance and also to do your job well. So in that case you complain (formally, or informally) and it will be investigated and either you will be told that they are not doing wrong, or he will be told to stop doing it. By some accounts I've read he was told, numerous times, to tone it down and stop with the "jokes"...but he didn't.
 
The man is clearly staggeringly arrogant but most of the people involved had other core jobs this was just a bit extra so it's not really comparable with "real life"
 
His response of ‘just 13 complaints all from middle class women of a certain age’ said it all. He really doesn’t get it. He said it was only the Celebrities who’d complained. Oh dear Gregg. You really are a bit of a plonker aren’t you, quite poignant considering you’re from Peckham. So any amateur or professional cook coming on your programme is going to complain about you when they’re trying to change their lives.
My wife and I love the programme but he’s bloody hard work to watch. I’d suggest he’s got very few real friends, and it seems even John Torode can’t bear him.
I’m pleased this arrogant non entity presenter who sees himself as one of the working class people and has clearly upset a lot of women of all classes and ages is now history. Wanker.
 
LGFOX said:
His response of ‘just 13 complaints all from middle class women of a certain age’ said it all. He really doesn’t get it. He said it was only the Celebrities who’d complained. Oh dear Gregg. You really are a bit of a plonker aren’t you, quite poignant considering you’re from Peckham. So any amateur or professional cook coming on your programme is going to complain about you when they’re trying to change their lives.
My wife and I love the programme but he’s bloody hard work to watch. I’d suggest he’s got very few real friends, and it seems even John Torode can’t bear him.
I’m pleased this arrogant non entity presenter who sees himself as one of the working class people and has clearly upset a lot of women of all classes and ages is now history. Wanker.
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You wanna (try to) watch the 'Factory' series of programs featuring him. If you think he's bad on MChef, well.....
 
What? said:
The man is clearly staggeringly arrogant but most of the people involved had other core jobs this was just a bit extra so it's not really comparable with "real life"
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Of course it's comparable with real life. Why can't people (mostly men) listen to what the women say about how they feel and want to be treated, rather than telling them what's OK?

Accepting this type of behaviour as OK and just a bit of banter enables those people who don't know where to draw the line, they'll always push it that bit further. A few lewd comments, touch of the arse, staring at breasts, all good fun eh? Where's their sense of humour?

You have daughters. I'd be very surprised if they and most of their friends haven't discussed tactics for when they go out, particularly if they get separated and have to go anywhere alone. Walk where it's busy and light, cross the road if someone looks like following you, hold their keys in their hand as a weapon. Why should they have to do this? Why can't they jus
 
Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
It's nothing to do with him being guilty. It's a really old Tweet that amused me.

He's more or less admitted he's guilty with his silly video trying to justify himself and saying it's just a few middle class women of a certain age.
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That doesn't prove guilt.
 
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