George Monbiot

AFCDorset said:
That is the basic state pension to which I am entitled (actually it is £86.65, this years interest must have passed me by).

I have much the same needs as any other retired person, why should I not get the same as, for example, you?
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Sell some of your gold. That's what my silver stash is for 😜
 
The basic pension is around £150. You've clearly chosen a lifestyle during which you failed to pay NI.
You may of course had other reasons for not paying your full stamp.

I've paid NI at the full rate over and above the number of years required so am entitled (unlike yourself) to the full state pension.
I've been lucky enough (worked hard enough) to be in a job where there was also the option of a company pension wgich I've made full use of.

Others who earn more than me will have been able to put more into their pension pot, I don't expect them to subsidise my life style after retirement.

Where I did have a proble with private pensions was when there was a ridiculous ceiling on the amount you could pay (tax free) into the pot.
Not sure what the max is now but probably still too high and effectively an abuse by the super rich.
 
Hackney;
So, having paid more into your state pension, you consider it right that the rewards of that are yours and yours alone.

Bit capitalist of you if I might say so, keeping the fruits of your labour to yourself.

Private pensions are just another Money laundering scheme, for the rich anyway, different subject though.

Richard;
That is for the future, when Sterling really does go tits up. The £86pw is genuinely my only income. Investments pay nothing, below inflation, so no real income there and gold does not earn interest, it is, very much, the savings of last resort.
 
Well clearly they aren't for mine and mine alone, and clearly you aren't this stupid.
Makes no odds whether I pay full stamp for 20 or 40 years, there';s a maximum I can get and the extra I've paid in subsidises those who ar poorly paid but have paid in.

For some reason you've not paid full stamp and yet expect to get the same from the system as those that have, not a very capitalist attitude is it?
 
There are plenty of people who get tax payers money out of the system without having contributed at all. Some may have no intention of ever contributing.

Is that something that you feel is ok, genuine question.
 
If you can contribute then you should, problem is that certain governments assume that everyone on benefits is on the fiddle.
Unfortunately many ministers and voters seem to think that anyone on benefits is overpaid. £86 a week doesn't bring a life of luxury.
If someone can't work for a legitimate reason then they should be supported and have enough for a few small 'luxuries', couple of beers, fags etc.
 
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