Do as your told. Wear your mask. Get your jab. Don’t protest.

We tried to warn you.
You wouldn’t listen.
From covid passports to infinite jabbing.
From keeping you indoors to locking up protesters.
Each step is another step closer.
If you don’t wake up now you’re already dead.



 
I think perhaps trying to Kill the Bill, turned in to trying the Kill the Old Bill.

Protest is OK. Violent protest is not.
 
I thought it was a woman who pissed on a copper. That is pretty vile really isn't it. Fucking disgusting.

She also exposed herself several times. That is classed as indecent exposure, which is a sexual offence.

Doubt she will do it again eh.
 
I think perhaps trying to Kill the Bill, turned in to trying the Kill the Old Bill.

Protest is OK. Violent protest is not.
Until very recently I would have agreed 100%.

But now? Tens, possibly hundreds of thousands of people march against the lockdowns and not only do the government take no notice whatsoever but the broadcast media do not even report it.

A dozen or so start a bit of argy bargy and they get attention, I really do not like the conclusion, but it seems that a degree, maybe even a serious amount of violence is required to get the governments attention.
 
Dramatic change of stance there.

Who should the violence be targeted at?

Who do you propose should be the victims of this serious violence?
 
We tried to warn you.
You wouldn’t listen.
From covid passports to infinite jabbing.
From keeping you indoors to locking up protesters.
Each step is another step closer.
If you don’t wake up now you’re already dead.



The Bill is a disgusting, draconian piece of legislation. The problem is, the majority want to have a peaceful demonstration but the message gets lost in all the noise and speeches from people like Piers Corbyn, David Icke, Kate Shemirani etc.

Then there are the small minority that go for a day out on the Stella and an excuse to start a fight with someone, anyone, probably the police, justifying the Bill to pearl clutchers.
 
Dramatic change of stance there.

Who should the violence be targeted at?

Who do you propose should be the victims of this serious violence?
Not quite there yet sixth, just a reality that I am coming to terms with.

Political violence is already here and being used, as those in real authority are pretty well protected it is being targeted at others.

At some point it will become necessary to stand up to the police and put those in charge under real pressure, they have to be made aware that there will be consequences. Legal means are pointless as the authorities are in total control of the courts which are now the enforcement arm of the establishment, so physical violence or the threat of it becomes the only option.
 
The Bill is a disgusting, draconian piece of legislation. The problem is, the majority want to have a peaceful demonstration but the message gets lost in all the noise and speeches from people like Piers Corbyn, David Icke, Kate Shemirani etc.

Then there are the small minority that go for a day out on the Stella and an excuse to start a fight with someone, anyone, probably the police, justifying the Bill to pearl clutchers.
Exactly . The legitimate protest is being hijacked by the anti vax mob .
 
The Bill is a disgusting, draconian piece of legislation. The problem is, the majority want to have a peaceful demonstration but the message gets lost in all the noise and speeches from people like Piers Corbyn, David Icke, Kate Shemirani etc.

Then there are the small minority that go for a day out on the Stella and an excuse to start a fight with someone, anyone, probably the police, justifying the Bill to pearl clutchers.
Too much video evidence has been shared at these protests to show you can’t have a peaceful protest when the police are around. It’s strange when the evidences is overwhelming due to video footage it’s that that catches the police out and not their own turning them in. It’s not a few bad apples. It’s the lot of them and I hope they will get “theirs” when they’re good and ready.
 
The Bill is a disgusting, draconian piece of legislation. The problem is, the majority want to have a peaceful demonstration but the message gets lost in all the noise and speeches from people like Piers Corbyn, David Icke, Kate Shemirani etc.

Then there are the small minority that go for a day out on the Stella and an excuse to start a fight with someone, anyone, probably the police, justifying the Bill to pearl clutchers.
I've been to two, one with my daughter and granddaughter. These were most peaceful, good vibes, friendly gatherings I've ever been too. The atmosphere was fantastic, what's more the first one was the most people I've ever seen in one group in my life it was 5 miles long !

Stop believing the MSM.
 
Exactly . The legitimate protest is being hijacked by the anti vax mob .
Oh only people you agree with can march then ! Funny that because cunts like you will be strung up altogether and l bet that will be a big crown, to watch the idiots who are backing a murderous government and killing peoples families and their children soon if we don't stop them and you pigs.
 
Not quite there yet sixth, just a reality that I am coming to terms with.

Political violence is already here and being used, as those in real authority are pretty well protected it is being targeted at others.

At some point it will become necessary to stand up to the police and put those in charge under real pressure, they have to be made aware that there will be consequences. Legal means are pointless as the authorities are in total control of the courts which are now the enforcement arm of the establishment, so physical violence or the threat of it becomes the only option.

So do you think that everyone should have the right to "stand up to the police." Inflict harm on them?

Mothers. Daughters. Wives.
 
So do you think that everyone should have the right to "stand up to the police." Inflict harm on them?

Mothers. Daughters. Wives.
Yes when they are battering individuals for sport. They need disbanding and replaced with something else fit for purpose.
A body that is designed to protect and serve the people not suppress them on behalf of the establishment.
 
But what if they're not?
What? You mean just standing by, enabling the beating up of individuals? You’ve obviously got some sort of agenda or vision in your mind about what they’re doing while their fellow officers are beating the shit out of individuals. Maybe you are ok with the police attacking members of the public as long as they have a pussy pass.
 
Problem is some of those at the protests are G4 Security, they are thugs in costume. I am disgusted at the way they attack women and the old. People think that the police are there to protect the public but really they are there to serve the the 1%. Some of them swear an Oath to the Queen some to the Crown.
 
I don't agree with coppers beating people up, or people beating coppers up.
Oh, so how do people defend themselves from the police? Seriously, how do people defend themselves? I have no respect for the police like a lot of folk. They have done that to themselves by their actions and inactions. They are not fit for purpose, every last one of them. Those that keep quiet are enablers of the thugs in uniform.
 
So do you think that everyone should have the right to "stand up to the police." Inflict harm on them?

Mothers. Daughters. Wives.
If there are no other options, then yes.

Yes became a viable, even honourable option when the people are denied their rights with no legal means of redress.

The authorities and their enforcement arm are, in the main, the ones crossing the line. They are crossing the line by not behaving correctly and simply enforcing political policy, policy deliberately designed to protect the ruling class and intimidate ordinary people.

If you believe that is what is happening, then you have a choice, be intimidated or fight back.
 
Oh, so how do people defend themselves from the police? Seriously, how do people defend themselves? I have no respect for the police like a lot of folk. They have done that to themselves by their actions and inactions. They are not fit for purpose, every last one of them. Those that keep quiet are enablers of the thugs in uniform.

Are the rozzers allowed to protect themselves?

There are plenty of protesters that hijack events for a rumble.

Think you've got it wrong that there are no good police. That's just a daft suggestion.
 
If there are no other options, then yes.

Yes became a viable, even honourable option when the people are denied their rights with no legal means of redress.

The authorities and their enforcement arm are, in the main, the ones crossing the line. They are crossing the line by not behaving correctly and simply enforcing political policy, policy deliberately designed to protect the ruling class and intimidate ordinary people.

If you believe that is what is happening, then you have a choice, be intimidated or fight back.

Have you changed you're views on capital punishment yet?
 
Are the rozzers allowed to protect themselves?

There are plenty of protesters that hijack events for a rumble.

Think you've got it wrong that there are no good police. That's just a daft suggestion.
Well every video I’ve seen whereby the police have assaulted someone their mates to a man or woman has stood there and enabled it. Every one guilty in my book. Show me evidence of coppers pulling up their own.
Then tell me it’s daft.
 
The kick was to the armpit, not the face - but still not acceptable.

Also this video is from 2018, so Gillian is a bit behind...
 
Oh that’s ok then, they were bad in 2018 but are lovely in 2021, you still didn’t say what you would do though if it was one of your own.
Maybe shout it’s ok it’s to the armpit not the face. 😊
 
You're only looking at the argument from one side. Not surprised though...

Did you actually read what I wrote?
 
You're only looking at the argument from one side. Not surprised though...

Did you actually read what I wrote?
Yes, regardless of where they were kicked. It’s wrong and if any one of them coppers had any sort of morals they would have jumped on the kicking copper and arrested him for assault.
 
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