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George Ferris

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Friends of mine had a close relation who sadly died of a heart attack a few weeks ago, the death was attributed to COVID!. They argued that it wasn’t but were told they had to self isolate and take tests which were sent to them. They were very annoyed not only having lost a close member of the family, but also being told lies, the tests were sent and opened and the family sent them back unused, 2 of the tests were negative but 2 returned positive for COVID.
This government has spent billions on a test system that is not fit for purpose and has enriched their privileged friends who own these companies whilst telling the population , most of whom are woefully uneducated, that we can’t do this and that, if the Labour Party was in government there would be uproar and the rich and entitled shouting from the rooftops about commies and a plot to overthrow our fucked up system.
This government still has in place emergency powers and does not have to answer to anyone, the opposition have had more bullets to fire than any opposition in my living memory, but fire blanks. Maybe Starmer has been paid off but something is not right.
 

AFCDorset

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The PCR test, by admission of its producers, has a 1-4% false positive rate.

It can also be adjusted to perform a specific number of repetitions, the more repetitions it performs, the more likely it is to find something that will give a positive result. In the UK we use a large number of repetitions, so the false positive rate will be closer to 4% than 1%.

Todays figures (a Monday, usually high as it includes some of the cases occurring over the weekend but reported today) is 40,224 cases. It does not give an indication of the number of tests performed, but given that we are currently performing around 1 million tests per day, it is a reasonable assumption that the bulk of those 40,000 cases (4% of people tested) will be false positives.
 

Adumass

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Todays figures (a Monday, usually high as it includes some of the cases occurring over the weekend but reported today) is 40,224 cases. It does not give an indication of the number of tests performed, but given that we are currently performing around 1 million tests per day, it is a reasonable assumption that the bulk of those 40,000 cases (4% of people tested) will be false positives.

eh? we know exactly how many PCR tests were done. it is reported each day, based on previous 24 hours. it is nowhere near 1million per day.

10th October was 339,791. with 34,574 positive results.
based on your 4% false positive rate (which I don't know is correct) that would leave 21,000 genuine positives on 10th october.
 

AFCDorset

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eh? we know exactly how many PCR tests were done. it is reported each day, based on previous 24 hours. it is nowhere near 1million per day.

10th October was 339,791. with 34,574 positive results.
based on your 4% false positive rate (which I don't know is correct) that would leave 21,000 genuine positives on 10th october.
You are correct, I was looking at older figures from around June when testing was being carried out on a much wider scale.
 

George Ferris

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I don’t believe the 4% figure, I believe it is much higher although obviously I have no figures to back that up.
We have been misled by the people in charge for most of this pandemic, their bullshit slide shows, bullshit tests, bullshit track and trace, they are all liars only interested in making more money for themselves and their cronies.
 

BarrowFox

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The focus on false positives feels like a bit of mis direction and seems incredibly one eyed.

Its well documented that the significant issue with PCR tests in the false negative rate with data from many studies pointing to false negative rates above 10%.

But then who wants balance when feeding a narrative
 

AFCDorset

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And then of course there are the issues relating to the repeat rates, which in the UK are reported to be in the 40-45 cycle range which is way higher than recommended.
 

BarrowFox

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And then of course there are the issues relating to the repeat rates, which in the UK are reported to be in the 40-45 cycle range which is way higher than recommended.
My understanding was up to 40 cycles.

with the emphasis on "up to" not all tests are ran at that number of cycles.

I cant work out if you are deliberately trying to misled or are just parroting someone else's mis-direction
 

AFCDorset

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My understanding was up to 40 cycles.

with the emphasis on "up to" not all tests are ran at that number of cycles.

I cant work out if you are deliberately trying to misled or are just parroting someone else's mis-direction
My understanding is different, the rate was varied and was reported at one point at 43 and at another time as 25. This was some time ago but I have seen nothing since then that gives me any great confidence in the numbers.

I am deeply suspicious of the whole thing, so much of what we are being told (by people on both sides) does not stack up, for me anyway. Some on here enthusiastically endorse and support the narrative, I just put another side.
 

BarrowFox

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My understanding is different, the rate was varied and was reported at one point at 43 and at another time as 25. This was some time ago but I have seen nothing since then that gives me any great confidence in the numbers.

I am deeply suspicious of the whole thing, so much of what we are being told (by people on both sides) does not stack up, for me anyway. Some on here enthusiastically endorse and support the narrative, I just put another side.
You seem to have some misunderstanding in the way pcr tests are ran, 25 cycles is the point where infection starts to become visable, if no infection is detected the test cycles through again upto 40 cycles, your basicly quoting the range that is used for infection detection.

you seem to be drawing conclusions from incomplete information, so you're in effect just putting another side thats false
 

Club_B00k_Crutchless

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I thought
I don’t believe the 4% figure, I believe it is much higher although obviously I have no figures to back that up.
We have been misled by the people in charge for most of this pandemic, their bullshit slide shows, bullshit tests, bullshit track and trace, they are all liars only interested in making more money for themselves and their cronies.
The whole Plandemic was to prepare us for a Great Reset?
 

NorthwestFox

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Only you won't because the tide won't change and in the remote scenario that it does, we all have aliases, so unless there's admin breach, which would shut the site down, or you know them personally, you'll be none the wiser.
 

bnet

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Only you won't because the tide won't change and in the remote scenario that it does, we all have aliases, so unless there's admin breach, which would shut the site down, or you know them personally, you'll be none the wiser.
It will change, and l believe its changing rapidly right now. I know who some of them are and I'll will find the others if l have too. It will be a crime anyway soon, that they've committed so it will come down on these wankers from a lofty height.
 

bnet

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7 out of 10 deaths in the UK are vaccinated people.


THIS IS GOVERNMENT DATA FOR ALL TO SEE, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU FUCKING IDIOTS ?
 
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