Champions League Final at Wembley

Portugal has announced British tourists can enter the country from Monday. ✅ But, it isn't yet clear what that means for fans hoping to watch the Champions League final. 🤔 BBC Sport has taken a look at where things stand with two weeks to go ⤵️ #bbcfootball #ucl #cfc #mcfc
 
Joking and stoking apart. Given the fact the latest variant is 50% more transmissible . If you are over 40 and refusing vaccination you are seriously fucked up .
 
Foxgolfer said:
Joking and stoking apart. Given the fact the latest variant is 50% more transmissible . If you are over 40 and refusing vaccination you are seriously fucked up .
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Having had the vaccine yourself, do you think it has made you more gullible or less gullible?
 
I suspect the vaccine has no effect whatsoever on ones discernment .
 
AFCDorset said:
Having had the vaccine yourself, do you think it has made you more gullible or less gullible?
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I wil say despite our many differences, with the health issues you have described , I hope you look carefully at the scientific evidence and spread of the virus across the world and get down to your nearest vaccine centre tomorrow morning .
 
Foxgolfer said:
I wil say despite our many differences, with the health issues you have described , I hope you look carefully at the scientific evidence and spread of the virus across the world and get down to your nearest vaccine centre tomorrow morning .
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I was, I admit, engaging in a bit of 'banter' but the reality is that we have a very different view of what is happening in the world.

Our views are so different that any kind of rational discussion is next to impossible, to put it quite bluntly, I think that covid is just the most recent and the most sophisticated technique for the globalists in their quest for total domination in the style of communist China.

I actually really hope that I am wrong with this, but I am a logical and thoughtful person, who has been around the block a fair few times, and can see no other rational explanation. The 'propaganda' that you take at face value is so full of holes and contradictions that I am astonished that people can not see it for what it is.

Anyway, all that aside, I am hoping for a good day tomorrow, not sure if I am going to watch or not, I shall see how I feel.

Anyway, can't do much tomorrow morning, I have to live up to my knuckle dragging, neanderthal stereotype and do the ironing.
 
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Got to fly on on day of match and then straight back afterwards
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That makes no sense either. Fans with tickets will all be on day trips to rival the coaches we’re putting on, bussed to their own fan zone then on to the stadium however any fans who don’t have tickets and just want to be in Porto for the game get to enjoy the delights of the city.

It’s seriously fucked up and makes no sense to me.
 
AFCDorset said:
I was, I admit, engaging in a bit of 'banter' but the reality is that we have a very different view of what is happening in the world.

Our views are so different that any kind of rational discussion is next to impossible, to put it quite bluntly, I think that covid is just the most recent and the most sophisticated technique for the globalists in their quest for total domination in the style of communist China.

I actually really hope that I am wrong with this, but I am a logical and thoughtful person, who has been around the block a fair few times, and can see no other rational explanation. The 'propaganda' that you take at face value is so full of holes and contradictions that I am astonished that people can not see it for what it is.

Anyway, all that aside, I am hoping for a good day tomorrow, not sure if I am going to watch or not, I shall see how I feel.

Anyway, can't do much tomorrow morning, I have to live up to my knuckle dragging, neanderthal stereotype and do the ironing.
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The ‘holes and contradictions’ I suspect is the result of a virus behaving unpredictably- It’s what they do . Science is trying to keep up and evolving all the time . Hence the occasional disagreements about the best protection .
I suggest that way of looking at is is far more ‘ rational’ than some undefined conspiracy by unknown ‘globalists’ . If you talk of holes and contradictions try to explains why that would be happening ?
 
Morning Foxgolfer.

From what I can see the virus is behaving entirely predictably, the outbreak last year was nothing unusual until the authorities deliberately infected the old and infirm in the nursing and care homes causing yens of thousands of deaths.

That surge became the basis for non stop propaganda and despite the infection largely disappearing by mid May 2020 the fear was ramped up by fake science and bogus statistics. It is not the virus 'evolving' that is the issue, it is the way the lies spread by the authorities keep 'evolving' as events are continuously massaged and manipulated to fit the narrative.
 
AFCDorset said:
Morning Foxgolfer.

From what I can see the virus is behaving entirely predictably, the outbreak last year was nothing unusual until the authorities deliberately infected the old and infirm in the nursing and care homes causing yens of thousands of deaths.

That surge became the basis for non stop propaganda and despite the infection largely disappearing by mid May 2020 the fear was ramped up by fake science and bogus statistics. It is not the virus 'evolving' that is the issue, it is the way the lies spread by the authorities keep 'evolving' as events are continuously massaged and manipulated to fit the narrative.
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It is statements like that which many find quite offensive.

"deliberately infected". Yeah, right.
 
SardiniaFox said:
It is statements like that which many find quite offensive.

"deliberately infected". Yeah, right.
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Right back in march last year the government policy was to return elderly and vulnerable patients, many already diagnosed with covid, the rest untested and at severe risk, to their care homes.

They did that without any special provision in the full knowledge that it would spread. At the same time it withdrew from the market an effective treatment and excellent prophylaxis such that patients received no treatment and care staff were not allowed to protect themselves.

How would you describe such behaviour?
 
AFCDorset said:
Right back in march last year the government policy was to return elderly and vulnerable patients, many already diagnosed with covid, the rest untested and at severe risk, to their care homes.

They did that without any special provision in the full knowledge that it would spread. At the same time it withdrew from the market an effective treatment and excellent prophylaxis such that patients received no treatment and care staff were not allowed to protect themselves.

How would you describe such behaviour?
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Incompetent and ignorant
 
AFCDorset said:
Morning Foxgolfer.

From what I can see the virus is behaving entirely predictably, the outbreak last year was nothing unusual until the authorities deliberately infected the old and infirm in the nursing and care homes causing yens of thousands of deaths.

That surge became the basis for non stop propaganda and despite the infection largely disappearing by mid May 2020 the fear was ramped up by fake science and bogus statistics. It is not the virus 'evolving' that is the issue, it is the way the lies spread by the authorities keep 'evolving' as events are continuously massaged and manipulated to fit the narrative.
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Which statistics are ‘bogus’ . The ones in January where deaths were 10000 a day for a time or the last week where deaths are averaging 7 ?
Might it just be possible that the correct narrative is vaccination and lockdown measures are preventing serious illness and disease ?
Viruses change all the time to evade the immune response . Pray that our fantastic science can keep it at arms length .
If you don’t get vaccinated despite overwhelming scientific evidence of its efficacy you really need sectioning , articulately if you are physically vulnerable .
 
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Incompetent and ignorant
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Possibly, but given that they are the government, with all the resources of a government, all the advisors of a government, I genuinely find it hard to believe that they did not see that coming.

As for the numbers that you quote, I believe they are just made up to enhance project fear, you believe they are real.

It's a question of belief, there is no basis for a rational discussion, none at all.
 
AFCDorset said:
Possibly, but given that they are the government, with all the resources of a government, all the advisors of a government, I genuinely find it hard to believe that they did not see that coming.

As for the numbers that you quote, I believe they are just made up to enhance project fear, you believe they are real.

It's a question of belief, there is no basis for a rational discussion, none at all.
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What do you expect from marxist EU supporting bastards? And by that I mean the Government.
 
SardiniaFox said:
What do you expect from marxist EU supporting bastards? And by that I mean the Government.
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I know that you are baiting, but I am going to give you a serious answer, undeserved though it is.

In general globalists, including those who run the British (and most western) governments are not themselves remotely 'marxist', they are not left wing in any meaningful way.

They are the ultimate capitalist and they want control everything, and I mean everything. Marxism, especially 'cultural marxism' is just the methodology, the tool that they use to control and oppress the rest of us.
 
AFCDorset said:
I know that you are baiting, but I am going to give you a serious answer, undeserved though it is.

In general globalists, including those who run the British (and most western) governments are not themselves remotely 'marxist', they are not left wing in any meaningful way.

They are the ultimate capitalist and they want control everything, and I mean everything. Marxism, especially 'cultural marxism' is just the methodology, the tool that they use to control and oppress the rest of us.
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Let's chill.

Today is a big day.
 
Portugal off the safe list and plane loads asked to self-isolate. That ended well.
 
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