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1984

The people who are in bed with the system are middle class.
They love a government, a big system, controlling everything and everyone.
They experience the politics and the propaganda in their lives religiously and fanatically. They never question, just reinforce the message.
Whatever the system tells them is good, they know it's good. When they're told to hate, they hate.

The working class, although mostly in a hopeless situation, just don't go along with it.

I think this is what I read on this website.
 

sixthswan

Non-Member
If you have to work, you are working-class.
Only those at the very top don't have to work for a living.
 
In my world there are only working class and non working class
I see that. I sympathise with the working middle class too.

These words like working class, liberal etc, often confuse us.

It's hard to find a group name for the people on here. But it's clear that it's two groups.

ONE GROUP
is like the faithful in 1984. No matter that some, like Hackneyfox, say they came from humble beginnings. Most of that group love, support, defend the system. They hate those that refuse to go along with it. They love ridiculing the people that question it. They'll even contact the authorities to get them silenced, or in the shit with the law. This group, I believe, includes the 'other ClubBook'.
If we're honest, this group looks down on the plebs. They despise 'working class' culture and the happiness that the plebs feel within their culture.

The OTHER GROUP
tends to reflect old, working class viewpoints. It senses the fix is in. That it's always in. It's used to being blamed and having to live with the consequences. It senses when we're being shafted and lied to.
Does anyone think that Joe Biden is nothing more than a puppet?
This group may go along with a political figure, but it will never trust them completely.
But you don't have to be working class to be in this group. Not really.

I'm a proud member of this second group.
 
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Pen4

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I see that. I sympathise with the working middle class too.

These words like working class, liberal etc, often confuse us.

It's hard to find a group name for the people on here. But it's clear that it's two groups.

ONE GROUP
is like the faithful in 1984. No matter that some, like Hackneyfox, say they came from humble beginnings. Most of that group love, support, defend the system. They hate those that refuse to go along with it. They love ridiculing the people that question it. They'll even contact the authorities to get them silenced, or in the shit with the law. This group, I believe, includes the 'other ClubBook'.
If we're honest, this group looks down on the plebs. They despise 'working class' culture and the happiness that the plebs feel within their culture.

The OTHER GROUP
tends to reflect old, working class viewpoints. It senses the fix is in. That it's always in. It's used to being blamed and having to live with the consequences. It senses when we're being shafted and lied to.
Does anyone think that Joe Biden is nothing more than a puppet?
This group may go along with a political figure, but it will never trust them completely.
But you don't have to be working class to be in this group. Not really.

I'm a proud member of this second group.
Probably the best series of post on here in many many months
 
I honestly think that these ideas, currently, are the only way I can get some sort of clear idea of 'who we are', 'what we've become' and 'why we argue.'

That the 'System Followers' embrace woke also fits in with 1984. Sold as being humanistic, caring and unifying, it’s easily accepted by the 'System Followers'. It heightens their sense of self-righteousness and encourages their happy disgust of other who might not swallow it. Woke is complete 'double think' in many cases. A great way to divide people, many of whom, on both sides, who are humanistic, caring and generally accepting of others.
 

sixthswan

Non-Member
The reaction to "Woke" is also "double think".
Anti-woke is as pathetic as woke.

People who think of themselves as free-thinkers, because they are following some theories, conspiracies, channels and other stuff on the internet; are as woke as the original woke.

Apologies if I've triggered anyone...
 

RubberDoug

Non-Member
The reaction to "Woke" is also "double think".
Anti-woke is as pathetic as woke.

People who think of themselves as free-thinkers, because they are following some theories, conspiracies, channels and other stuff on the internet; are as woke as the original woke.

Apologies if I've triggered anyone...
Ha!
Spent the whole day wondering how to deal with a post?
Not addressed any of the earlier points made, bud? 😀

Hey it's no problem!

Just wait for an easy and usual thing like 'woke' to show up, and hey presto, we gotta Sixthswan reply! 😀

Hey guys, I'm sorry if you're triggered, but you have to understand that sixthswan always has to be seen as clever, not agreeing and having the last word.

Triggered? 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀

You bet he was!
 
The reaction to "Woke" is also "double think".
Anti-woke is as pathetic as woke.

People who think of themselves as free-thinkers, because they are following some theories, conspiracies, channels and other stuff on the internet; are as woke as the original woke.

Apologies if I've triggered anyone...
That is probably one of the points. Triggering people, I imagine, no matter how trivial the case may be, is manipulation.
Reacting emotionally to the said triggering of one person, I imagine, just means that more people get caught up in the manipulation.

That's my opinion, at least.
 
I think it's more to do with proximity or perceived proximity to power. The petty bourgeois* 'works' but is not working class.

*hackney
And perception is all in the head.

I agree with you. A lot of the differences are about what and how people think of themselves.

Talk to any ad or media agency people. It's easy to alter those self-perceptions.
 

sixthswan

Non-Member
Ha!
Spent the whole day wondering how to deal with a post?
Not addressed any of the earlier points made, bud? 😀

Hey it's no problem!

Just wait for an easy and usual thing like 'woke' to show up, and hey presto, we gotta Sixthswan reply! 😀

Hey guys, I'm sorry if you're triggered, but you have to understand that sixthswan always has to be seen as clever, not agreeing and having the last word.

Triggered? 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀

You bet he was!

Triggered
 
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