Who's shaking the jar?

It is simple.
A small number of people control most of the worlds wealth, resources and means of production.
They want to get control of the rest.
They will set up a 'professional' class of between half a billion and 2 billion people to serve them and be the future of the planet.
The remaining 90% will be slaves, the chains will be electronic, financial and social, not iron, but it will still be slavery.

Look how far we have come in just 7 months.
 
A small number of people control ALL of the worlds wealth, resources and means of production.

Everyone else is already a slave.

This won't change.
 
It will, if only by degree.
Like many of my age I have travelled extensively, living for various periods in Australia, Spain, USA among other places. Working sufficiently hard to be comfortable rather than rich, I was looking forward to this continuing into retirement.

The 'Reset' will make this next to impossible, travel restrictions are already in place, financial controls will destroy savings, the 'green agenda' will be used to limit energy, identity politics will be used to ferment race wars, you can see this coming.

From I timing point of view, lots of people of my age have been very lucky, I feel that is coming to an end, most of the next generation are in for a very tough time.
 
I share your pessimism about the tough times ahead for younger people. The Boomer generation did have some advantages, but they had tough times too.

I'm not so convinced about the Reset thing though. Now I'm not saying that big changes won't happen in some form or other; but I think the current situation will ease as we learn to live with the virus.

Which we need to start doing now, but with an eye on protecting the vulnerable.

The "green agenda" is probably going to become a necessity. The planet is finite and we need to stop polluting it. That doesn't mean the end of capitalism though. It just means that some very powerful people involved in the non-green side of things, will have their own statuses reset. Which in the short-term will lead to some real potential problems. Because these are the people and groups who have caused so many of the conflicts and evil in the world.

I also share the frustration with identity politics. Starting to do my head in a bit now.
 
The problem is that we have been living with 'the virus' in various forms for a very long time. 'Seasonal flu', which is what it is, has been documented for around 100yrs, there is nothing 'special' about Covid19.

What is 'special' and serious is the way the world has been conned into dealing with it, it is this, more than anything, that convinces me that the 'reset' is real, though probably not quite what we expect.
 
Covid-19 is nothing special at all. The only issue is that it's new to humans.

If those that have the power already over us, wanted to exert even more power. They could do that with or without a virus.
 
Seasonal flu is new (to humans) practically every year, it is how we are reacting to it that is 'special'.

I still think It has been used as cover for a power grab, and very well organised. It has stifled virtually all opposition in just a few months with people already accepting this as the new normal.

To them, it is just a 'business opportunity'.
 
Hey you may be right. Wouldn't put anything past the buggers that rule us.

I definitely do believe the disaster capitalists and hedge funds must adore Covid-19.
 
There is definitely something more going on, I don't know what but like someone else posted I can see you having to have a certificate to prove you've had the vaccine before being allowed to travel anywhere and that really doesn't sit right with me.
 
I don't agree with it either and we have to remember, it isn't a rule, yet.

There are plenty of places in the world where it is recommended to shove stuff in your arm, before you travel. Can't think of any that are mandatory.
 
I've always managed to avoid it, because the poison I already get prescribed - excludes me from vaccinations.
 
The easiest way for the mega rich to make more money Pharma or war.
If I'm being kind I prefer this way to the alternative. I guess my biggest fear is if too many realise this covid is a con and rebel against it then they've always the alternative waiting in the wings.
 
If you produce masses of medicine, or machines of war - there always comes a point where you need to offload stock, to keep the industry going and to keep the money rolling in.

"All the silver tongued suits and cartoons that rule my world
Are saying it's a high time for hypersonic missiles
When the bombs drop darlin' can you say that you've lived your life
Oh, this is a high time for hypersonic missiles
They all do the same, only their names change honey
You can join their club if you're born in to money
It's a high time for hypersonic missiles."
 
Can someone give me a sane example as to why "wealth creators" need more than £50 million.

After that it's just sociopathic greed surely.

I'm no bleeding heart liberal but it just gets unnecessary.
 
It is all sociopathic greed Bill.

They simply do not think like we do, they are wired differently. We, ordinary people, simply do not matter, if we are in their way they will destroy us just to make money. Eisenhower warned us of the "Military industrial Complex" back in the 1950s, it is bigger and more destructive than even he imagined.

We are in a time that is unique, most of the world is powerless, the only thing that stands against them is the remnants of western capitalist society, the USA under Trump pisses them off mightily so he has to go, the UK too, primarily because of its reach in financial matters.

This will be the reset, once you see it, you can not 'unsee' it and everything that is happening, that has has happened over the the last 20+ years becomes obvious.

Some people see it, some do not, look around and make your own decision.
 
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Where do the Tech billionaires figure in all this? 15 years ago no-one saw these young upstarts coming along - the Zuckerbergs, the Musks. These tech guys are now among the richest people in the world. Are they part of 'them', or on the outside of it all?
 
Their money buys them membership of the club. Obviously they are more well known and visual than 'old' money but their aims are shared. Pay huge amounts in 'political contributions' to avoid scrutiny and tax.

Perhaps they are still not fully integrated with the real power elites but their control of data and the media, both mainstream and social, has made them very welcome, they are very much instrumental in the 'slow coup' that is destroying what is left of the western democracies.

One thought that confuses some people is that the political and social weight for these changes is all coming from the left, whereas the 'power elites' are of course, ultimate capitalists.
 
It seems the left or right argument is still being pushed by msn and clung to by the old guard as it suit their own agendas. Extreme right and left (if that's the correct phrase) will never be allowed power because they're seen as mavericks to the elite who have the real power. Left and right politics are just the pantomime but it's used to shut down one side or the other with the backing of one side or the other depending on what side of the line you're on.
 
Can someone give me a sane example as to why "wealth creators" need more than £50 million
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Billsballbag said:
Can someone give me a sane example as to why "wealth creators" need more than £50 million.

After that it's just sociopathic greed surely.

I'm no bleeding heart liberal but it just gets unnecessary.
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It is a good point though. Most of these millionaires/billionaires have more money than they will ever be able to spend. Why the need to carry on making so much? Be more like Warren Buffett.
 
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It is a good point though. Most of these millionaires/billionaires have more money than they will ever be able to spend. Why the need to carry on making so much? Be more like Warren Buffett.
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Think it's nothing more than a pissing contest. Bit like footballers who have it written in their contracts that any new player comes in on higher wages theirs has to match it.
 
The wealth and power is now as concentrated as it was, in the early twentieth century. We all know what happened next...
 
The power elites use whatever works to control the people. Right now that is political and social marxism which is being used to break up western society, plenty of political and social division being spread so that there is no organised resistance.

Their vision is a pure fascist state, to quote Benitio... "everything in the state, nothing against the state, nothing outside the state".

What is ironic is that this will be achieved by the methods of hard left marxism, to create a society that was originally classified as right wing.
 
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