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Can we please have our old Jamie Vardy back, you know the one, on the shoulder of the last defender (not offside) terrorising defenders (not offside) first time clinical finishes (not offside)
I know he is carrying a knock but if he needs resting to get it sorted why not play Harvey Barnes in the number 9 slot as I can’t see us bringing anyone else in during January and Iheanacho is not a long term option......👍
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Up the City... 💙
 
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I was thinking last night that this eventual problem of replacing Vardy could be staring us in the face. Is HB the long term answer. Phenomenally quick, can put the ball away and can certainly play as a no.9
 
Daz40 said:
No striker worth his salt is going to come here to be backup to Vardy. That is the problem we have had with strikers.
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This is mentioned every time we have a chat about Vardy.

Why wouldn’t a younger chap want the chance to learn from Vardy and become our first choice striker over the coming year or two, if they work hard enough? Anyone with half a brain will see that every season now they will have plenty of chances to play and shine. The game is a squad game nowadays especially with Europe.

What a target it would be to make the position your own and be the man to knock Vardy down to largely a place on the bench?
 
Herein lies the problem, Jamie Vardy has turned into the 'The Old Jamie Vardy', nothing's gonna last forever.
 
That's why I hope we get an up and comer a young lad willing to learn and be patient, I IMHO give Vardy one more Season at the top, the reason being he is now more closely marked and you can see someone clogging him to stamp his name on the game, especially as he slows his game down to suit his time left.
 
I thought Vard worked as hard yesterday as ever. Did a lot more closing down, and had chances. Bot his day, vut he kept coming back for more.
 
I thought JV was ok, the dummy that created the chance for Barnes in the first half was brilliant. He missed one good chance, but so did Barnes and Perez. Stoke showed we can play without Vardy and Nacho. I think we will be ok even if we have to give Vardy a rest every so often.

I was quite impressed yesterday to see Nacho's positioning when Barnes scored. He was just behind Barnes ready to tap in (yes, I know) if Barrnes had decided to square it. Thankfully Wilf is playing superbly and Tielemans is on fire so we should be able to continue creating chances.
 
DagenhamFox said:
This is mentioned every time we have a chat about Vardy.

Why wouldn’t a younger chap want the chance to learn from Vardy and become our first choice striker over the coming year or two, if they work hard enough? Anyone with half a brain will see that every season now they will have plenty of chances to play and shine. The game is a squad game nowadays especially with Europe.

What a target it would be to make the position your own and be the man to knock Vardy down to largely a place on the bench?
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So you say that but how many chances have the likes of Nacho, Slimani,Musa and Krameric have because of Vardys form. None of them had a decent run in the team.
 
None of them did anything at the time to suggest they deserved a run in the team, particularly a run that would've been at JVs expense. Krameric probably should have been loaned out to appropriate clubs for a year or two to keep improving, but who's to say he didn't just want to leave (for whatever reason)? But to claim that 2021 presents the same set of circumstances for a young striker to come to the Club as was the case in 2016-17, is frankly ludicrous.
I very much doubt we've seriously tried to sign a striker since the failed punt on Nacho in August 2017. But I would seriously worry if there isn't the usual evolving 'watch list' for that position, the same as the club clearly maintains for every other position.
 
Daz40 said:
So you say that but how many chances have the likes of Nacho, Slimani,Musa and Krameric have because of Vardys form. None of them had a decent run in the team.
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All have had a run but not a impressionable ones all have developed a style of play suited to there needs and they have international performances to there credit and it hard to develop a differrant style of play that contrasts to your own especially playing a Piper instead of calling the tune yourself, you've equipped yourself and adapted a role that fitted a style of football being played out in another country with some
Style, then you move to a totally alien style which you have to adapt to without thinking about developing another to suit
The style of a partner, all confusing really
 
Filbo65 said:
None of them did anything at the time to suggest they deserved a run in the team, particularly a run that would've been at JVs expense. Krameric probably should have been loaned out to appropriate clubs for a year or two to keep improving, but who's to say he didn't just want to leave (for whatever reason)? But to claim that 2021 presents the same set of circumstances for a young striker to come to the Club as was the case in 2016-17, is frankly ludicrous.
I very much doubt we've seriously tried to sign a striker since the failed punt on Nacho in August 2017. But I would seriously worry if there isn't the usual evolving 'watch list' for that position, the same as the club clearly maintains for every other position.
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Why is it a failed punt on Nacho? Who knows it might be the long term plan to groom him as Vardy successor. Just hasn't at the moment had a proper number of games to prove himself given Vardys form.
 
kendalfox said:
All have had a run but not a impressionable ones all have developed a style of play suited to there needs and they have international performances to there credit and it hard to develop a differrant style of play that contrasts to your own especially playing a Piper instead of calling the tune yourself, you've equipped yourself and adapted a role that fitted a style of football being played out in another country with some
Style, then you move to a totally alien style which you have to adapt to without thinking about developing another to suit
The style of a partner, all confusing really
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Then you play to the players strengths. Not try to convert them from their usual game.
 
Daz40 said:
So you say that but how many chances have the likes of Nacho, Slimani,Musa and Krameric have because of Vardys form. None of them had a decent run in the team.
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Vardy is getting older. Maybe the time wasn’t right even a year ago but now you can see the early signs that he’ll be in and out more than before.

What a position to be in that we could bring Vardy off the bench for half an hour every game? It’d put the fear of God into most defences in the league.
 
Daz40 said:
Then you play to the players strengths. Not try to convert them from their usual game.
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But when you have a centre forward who had pace to burn you with a scoring record he has would be silly to ignore that fact you have organise players to get the best out of a formula Teilemans has done it Maddison has, are you telling me that a player has to stick to his usual practice I cannot see that as it disrupts tactics that are working for the Team.

There's always an element of risk when you have a player of Vardy stature as you put virtually all your eggs in one basket
We have been lucky but now we have to plan a new strategy for life without him
 
Daz40 said:
Why is it a failed punt on Nacho? Who knows it might be the long term plan to groom him as Vardy successor. Just hasn't at the moment had a proper number of games to prove himself given Vardys form.
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Because Shakey fell for an extremely flattering record from about a dozen games of coming on as a sub – against tired and demoralised teams – and managing to knock in De Bruyne's and Silva's pin-point crosses from around the penalty spot (there's an irony there, by the way ;) ). Plus the kidology, of course.
As a result, he persuaded Vichai to punt £25m plus £10m and counting in wages on a distinctly underwhelming average unambitious (by your own definition!) striker that clearly no-one wants to give a fresh start to.
IF anyone thought that he had the remotest chance of being a suitable long-term successor to Vardy, the grooming process would have started before almost four miserable years had passed. You can't polish a turd.
I accept your claim yesterday that you refuse to criticise individual players; that's fair enough if that's your MO. (Out of interest, did you manage to adhere to that MO when we had to put up with the likes of D Wise?). But regardless, it's no reason for pretending any individual is what he isn't.
 
Filbo65 said:
Because Shakey fell for an extremely flattering record from about a dozen games of coming on as a sub – against tired and demoralised teams – and managing to knock in De Bruyne's and Silva's pin-point crosses from around the penalty spot (there's an irony there, by the way ;) ). Plus the kidology, of course.
As a result, he persuaded Vichai to punt £25m plus £10m and counting in wages on a distinctly underwhelming average unambitious (by your own definition!) striker that clearly no-one wants to give a fresh start to.
IF anyone thought that he had the remotest chance of being a suitable long-term successor to Vardy, the grooming process would have started before almost four miserable years had passed. You can't polish a turd.
I accept your claim yesterday that you refuse to criticise individual players; that's fair enough if that's your MO. (Out of interest, did you manage to adhere to that MO when we had to put up with the likes of D Wise?). But regardless, it's no reason for pretending any individual is what he isn't.
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That’s a good point. I still feel Man City got Mardy Mahrez on the cheap. They also ripped us off with Nacho. The next time we sell them one of our players we should hold out for a ton of money.
 
Filbo65 said:
Because Shakey fell for an extremely flattering record from about a dozen games of coming on as a sub – against tired and demoralised teams – and managing to knock in De Bruyne's and Silva's pin-point crosses from around the penalty spot (there's an irony there, by the way ;) ). Plus the kidology, of course.
As a result, he persuaded Vichai to punt £25m plus £10m and counting in wages on a distinctly underwhelming average unambitious (by your own definition!) striker that clearly no-one wants to give a fresh start to.
IF anyone thought that he had the remotest chance of being a suitable long-term successor to Vardy, the grooming process would have started before almost four miserable years had passed. You can't polish a turd.
I accept your claim yesterday that you refuse to criticise individual players; that's fair enough if that's your MO. (Out of interest, did you manage to adhere to that MO when we had to put up with the likes of D Wise?). But regardless, it's no reason for pretending any individual is what he isn't.
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& the winner of spot on post of the century goes to...
 
ElmetFox said:
I thought JV was ok, the dummy that created the chance for Barnes in the first half was brilliant. He missed one good chance, but so did Barnes and Perez. Stoke showed we can play without Vardy and Nacho. I think we will be ok even if we have to give Vardy a rest every so often.

I was quite impressed yesterday to see Nacho's positioning when Barnes scored. He was just behind Barnes ready to tap in (yes, I know) if Barrnes had decided to square it. Thankfully Wilf is playing superbly and Tielemans is on fire so we should be able to continue creating chances.
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He missed 3 chances from memory. All of them good. He did press more and thankfully in that type of game more chances came the teams way.
 
No new signings coming in by all accounts so hopefully Vardy’s injury doesn’t keep him out, and also hoping that was his last ‘off’ day...
Up the City....
 
Feckit said:
No new signings coming in by all accounts so hopefully Vardy’s injury doesn’t keep him out, and also hoping that was his last ‘off’ day...
Up the City....
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You will probably find mid week games he will be on the bench and either Perez or Nacho will play on occasions.
 
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