Poor Donny

Foxgolfer

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I've not said you personally are against social justice, what the article talks a out and the latest culture war is against social justice. Stoking up trouble and using woke as a pejorative term so they can continue their unfair policies while the angry mob do their dirty work for them.

Yes divide and rule has been used forever, they still can't see it. The latest mob are brilliant at it, as can be seen by their continued popularity in the polls.
Yes I do , and they lost . If you watched the Circus that it was, they could not win even editing the evidence.
Someone said Trump is like the Mafia boss who says “ It would be a shame if something happened to your business..................”
He’ll get his just deserts soon .
 

BarrowFox

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And in a nutshell - that’s why the U.K. is screwed .
To be clear I'm not in the camp that thinks msm is all wrong and indy media right, that's bonkers.

On balance I think msm probably gets more right than wrong, a lot of indy media is just cos play dressed up as fact, that's probably why a few on here aren't willing to share there sources, if you're calling msm unreliable but trust videos posted on bit chute I'd probably not want to share where I was told what to think, sorry think for yourself
 

Foxgolfer

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Today another lawsuit was filed, lets wait for the verdict ? Although this will probably go to the military court for a final verdict. I do not use msm.

The fact you disagree Foxgolfer gives me greater confidence.
MSM is what you make of it.
BBC editorial policy is now hamstrung as it is terrified of the Tories and darent challenge the government. I’ve given up on them despite recognising how important the World service is. As long as China and Russia continue to block it , it shows its importance and that Britain still has some respect left in the world .
Those who blindly say MSM is not to be trusted are apparently not able to discriminate the spin.
No one in their right minds under the age of 80 takes the Mail, Express or Sun seriously .
C4 is left skewed but as long as you recognise that it’s pretty honest . Sky gets it about right in. terms of challenge and insight .
The real trick is to recognise that the MSM have to be truthful . Untruths are subject to public scrutiny and accountability . The spin on those facts is for you to determine .
The danger of internet “ news” is no one is accountable . Any lunatic can set up a .com “news” channel and claim any old drivel . We had to witness such nonsense when our old friend bnet was lurking around .
Facts are facts . Lies are lies .
How we interpret the facts is the joy of difference of opinion .
Basing opinions on “alternative “ facts kills debate as opinions based on lies are worthless and undeserving of respect .
 

AFCDorset

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The single most important thing is to relate what you are told (by anyone) with your experience of what is going on in the real world.

It seems that, these days, everyone has an agenda, there are no 'news' services that I trust implicitly, most no longer employ journalists, just activists to push their preferred agenda.

Trust what you see for yourself and get your propaganda from as wide a variety of sources as you can manage and run it through your reality filter. When Russia Today gives you more factually correct information than the BBC, you know something is wrong.
 

Foxgolfer

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The single most important thing is to relate what you are told (by anyone) with your experience of what is going on in the real world.

It seems that, these days, everyone has an agenda, there are no 'news' services that I trust implicitly, most no longer employ journalists, just activists to push their preferred agenda.

Trust what you see for yourself and get your propaganda from as wide a variety of sources as you can manage and run it through your reality filter. When Russia Today gives you more factually correct information than the BBC, you know something is wrong.
Give one example of factually incorrect information from The BBC?
I agree they are now too compromised to be challenging of the government it highlight their incompetence but factually incorrect . Nope
 

MrTeabreak

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MSM is what you make of it.
BBC editorial policy is now hamstrung as it is terrified of the Tories and darent challenge the government. I’ve given up on them despite recognising how important the World service is. As long as China and Russia continue to block it , it shows its importance and that Britain still has some respect left in the world .
Those who blindly say MSM is not to be trusted are apparently not able to discriminate the spin.
No one in their right minds under the age of 80 takes the Mail, Express or Sun seriously .
C4 is left skewed but as long as you recognise that it’s pretty honest . Sky gets it about right in. terms of challenge and insight .
The real trick is to recognise that the MSM have to be truthful . Untruths are subject to public scrutiny and accountability . The spin on those facts is for you to determine .
The danger of internet “ news” is no one is accountable . Any lunatic can set up a .com “news” channel and claim any old drivel . We had to witness such nonsense when our old friend bnet was lurking around .

Facts are facts . Lies are lies .
How we interpret the facts is the joy of difference of opinion .
Basing opinions on “alternative “ facts kills debate as opinions based on lies are worthless and undeserving of respect .
That isn't strictly true in the USA, it might be in the UK.
If you register as a news organization you MUST provide some truthfulness and balance, especially if you are publicly funded.
That's why Fox News is registered as an entertainment channel, so it doesn't have to provide any balance.
Of course any old tosser can lie on his own youtube channel all he likes.
 

Foxgolfer

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That isn't strictly true in the USA, it might be in the UK.
If you register as a news organization you MUST provide some truthfulness and balance, especially if you are publicly funded.
That's why Fox News is registered as an entertainment channel, so it doesn't have to provide any balance.
Of course any old tosser can lie on his own youtube channel all he likes.
Have to say it was quite refreshing watching CNN coverage of Trumps treacherous attempts to deny democracy . While always being aware of their anti Trump sentiments their excoriation of the liars who sought to defend his lies was great to watch . The Beeb allowed some of them to lie through their teeth unchallenged with a sort of apologetic - “there is no actual evidence for Senator ( insert liars name ) claims”
So we saw yesterday The BBC news leading on The Harry and Meghan non story while the news The Secretary of State for Health had broken the Law and probably in doing so killed hundreds was a passing mention. ( Not untruth just editorial decisions favouring this corrupt government )
 

Running Fox

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Well apart from Ireland I thinks its not bad, a few tweaks over services needed but nothing like the predictions. Anyway you jumped ship so it is nothing to do with you. just joking
 
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