Lee Rigby Killer

Agree he is entitled to same treatment as anyone else.
But would still be nice if that treatment was unable to save his life.
 
I think Lee Rigby had the right to walk down the high street without having his head hacked off with a rusty blade, Dorset
 
Outfoxed said:
I kind of know what you mean Dorset but personally I think you should forfeit that right when you take away someone's life.
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Wombat said:
I think Lee Rigby had the right to walk down the high street without having his head hacked off with a rusty blade, Dorset
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Rubbish.

We have a criminal justice system and Adebowale was convicted and sentenced in line with that.

Given that our 'leaders', along with pretty much everyone on the left are keen on seeing criminal justice as a 'social services' problem, then this is what you get.
 
A'right Club Book...

By my standards the Tories are a left of centre social democrat party with globalist tendencies, not meant to be argumentative, just a viewpoint, but that is how I see it. Nothing remotely conservative about them. And this has been going on for 30+ years, not just 10.

It's not just the government, it is the 'chattering classes', the media and social discourse of people in general that accords to the 'common purpose' agenda that sees crime, particularly violent crime as some sort of social issue.

We choose not to deal with it, no point complaining after the fact.
 
It's nothing to do politics.

Some nutter with a warped view of the world, decided to hack at an innocent bloke.

There can be no justification for that, so there can be no politics to hide behind.

No government or social services organisation could have stopped him doing what he did.

The only solution, is his death. Not capital punishment. Just death.
 
It certainly has little to do with party or parliamentary politics.

It is just the culmination of the massive shift in thinking that has taken place in the last 30-40 years. This has been driven by left wing ideas, under the name 'common purpose', it is now so all pervasive that many do not see what is behind it.

As I have said, we are extremely soft on crime, particularly violent crime and until we choose to deal with it it will just get worse.

BTW. How do you rationalise the phrase 'Not capital punishment, Just death'?
 
AFCDorset said:
It certainly has little to do with party or parliamentary politics.

It is just the culmination of the massive shift in thinking that has taken place in the last 30-40 years. This has been driven by left wing ideas, under the name 'common purpose', it is now so all pervasive that many do not see what is behind it.

As I have said, we are extremely soft on crime, particularly violent crime and until we choose to deal with it it will just get worse.

BTW. How do you rationalise the phrase 'Not capital punishment, Just death'?
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They have the death penalty in the US, how are their levels of violent crime compared to ours?
Criminals don’t expect to get caught (and generally don’t) why would they worry about more severe sentencing?
 
hackneyfox said:
They have the death penalty in the US, how are their levels of violent crime compared to ours?
Criminals don’t expect to get caught (and generally don’t) why would they worry about more severe sentencing?
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I did not even suggest the death penalty hackney, you are just making things up.
 
Sorry sixthswan, that is obscene. if you think he should be (or have been) executed, say so and stand by your decision.

If not, perhaps it would be best to say nothing.
 
Those two have been a problem whilst in prison, fighting wiv prison guards, they have not learned anything, they still have a dangerous idealogy, may god do justice and rid us of these deluded scumbags.
 
AFCDorset said:
Sorry sixthswan, that is obscene. if you think he should be (or have been) executed, say so and stand by your decision.

If not, perhaps it would be best to say nothing.
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No qualms here about wishing the two of them had been put to death sharpish.
By the same means would've been my preference, but I accept that any method (ideally quite slow and painful) would have sufficed.
 
If it had been ur brother, sister, father or mother, daughter, son or grandchildren that had been hacked to death whether ud be happy with the justice system, u can't defend scumbags.
 
oxonfox said:
If it had been ur brother, sister, father or mother, daughter, son or grandchildren that had been hacked to death whether ud be happy with the justice system, u can't defend scumbags.
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Don’t agree with capital punishment whatever the crime.
 
AFCDorset said:
Sorry sixthswan, that is obscene. if you think he should be (or have been) executed, say so and stand by your decision.

If not, perhaps it would be best to say nothing.
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No idea what you are on about?

Left to die. Not executed...pretty straightforward to understand.

Hacking someone to death in the street is obscene.
 
oxonfox said:
Those two have been a problem whilst in prison, fighting wiv prison guards, they have not learned anything, they still have a dangerous idealogy, may god do justice and rid us of these deluded scumbags.
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Sorry oxonfox. Time to 'get your hands dirty'.

If you believe that violent and vicous criminals should be dealt with more severely, stand up and say so. God has nothing to do with this.

Filbo65 said:
No qualms here about wishing the two of them had been put to death sharpish.
By the same means would've been my preference, but I accept that any method (ideally quite slow and painful) would have sufficed.
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Are you advocating the death penalty here filbo, 'cruel and unusual punishment maybe'.

Is that for all murderers, maybe just islamic extremists, or africans, or just the odd person you think deserves it?

oxonfox said:
That's aimed at u dorset.
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The point of a criminal justice system is to remove the element of personal revenge from the punishment. Even you know that.

The fact that the criminal justice system is not fit for purpose is not my fault.
 
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