Get your news from the BBC

The BBC is Tory, when it comes to news coverage.

Still is annoying that the Arcuri story just disappeared.

Also remember her having a laptop stolen. Bit fucking fortunate that eh...
 
SardiniaFox said:
There are worse offenders for burying that story.
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My point is the BBC should be absolutely impartial. Straight down the middle. Folk are forced to pay for their shit if they want to watch any sort of television.
Other news outlets will always put their slant on things or ignore something if it suits their political bias. I accept that. But a lot of folk, (a good number on here, and we know who they are) believe everything the BBC tells them and thinks anything they choose to omit isn’t news worthy.
 
Richardvanles said:
My point is the BBC should be absolutely impartial. Straight down the middle. Folk are forced to pay for their shit if they want to watch any sort of television.
Other news outlets will always put their slant on things or ignore something if it suits their political bias. I accept that. But a lot of folk, (a good number on here, and we know who they are) believe everything the BBC tells them and thinks anything they choose to omit isn’t news worthy.
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BBC news have been completely cowed by this vile government. Started with Brexit and now Johnson gets away unchallenged .
No doubt your barb was aimed at me .
BBC news editorial policy - especially TV - is compromised for me .
Rarely watch .
I am however a supporter of a public broadcaster which isn’t tied to advertising revenue and the variety and quality of programming remain the best in the world .
For me BBC sounds is worth the license fee alone .
(Check out any other countries domestic broadcaster ! )
 
It is my view that the BBC is a shill for globalism.

Whilst the Tory government continues to follow the globalist agenda they will, by and large, receive the support of the BBC.

BBC Radio, other than the R4 propaganda channel, is pretty good and you do not need to pay the Telly Tax.
 
AFCDorset said:
It is my view that the BBC is a shill for globalism.

Whilst the Tory government continues to follow the globalist agenda they will, by and large, receive the support of the BBC.

BBC Radio, other than the R4 propaganda channel, is pretty good and you do not need to pay the Telly Tax.
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I thought they were marxists?
 
AFCDorset said:
Cultural Marxism is a tool used by globalists to destroy western democracies, family life, free trade, free speech and pretty much everything worth having.

But of course you knew that already.
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Maybe that was it's intention 100 to 75 years ago.
However, the past decade it's a phrase used almost solely by right wing antisemtics , white supremacists & the alt-right.
But of course I'm teaching you to suck eggs .
 
Walthamstowfox said:
Maybe that was it's intention 100 to 75 years ago.
However, the past decade it's a phrase used almost solely by right wing antisemtics , white supremacists & the alt-right.
But of course I'm teaching you to suck eggs .
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Cultural marxism really did not have any traction in western societies until the 60s, intersectionality, the root of so much that is evil in modern society really did not become mainstream until a decade or two later.
 
sixthswan said:
Are you a believer of the Frankfurt School stuff?
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hackneyfox said:
Intersectionality is the root of so much evil?
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I believe in its existence and influence. I feel that it uses intersectionality, 'identity politics' if you prefer as its primary weapon to destroy capitalism which entails the breakup of the nation state, family and self reliance, the stoking of racist and gender/sexual tensions and a focus on state control and authoritarianism.

This is not really based on any great philosophical understanding on my part, simply what I consider a reasoned view of what I see happening in the world.
 
AFCDorset said:
I believe in its existence and influence. I feel that it uses intersectionality, 'identity politics' if you prefer as its primary weapon to destroy capitalism which entails the breakup of the nation state, family and self reliance, the stoking of racist and gender/sexual tensions and a focus on state control and authoritarianism.

This is not really based on any great philosophical understanding on my part, simply what I consider a reasoned view of what I see happening in the world.
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"Reasoned view!!"
 
Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
AKA I feel uncomfortable with people who are discriminated against by society educating themselves about what's actually going on and trying to do something about it.
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No. I am entirely supportive of people becoming more educated, learning about what really goes on in the world and doing something to change it for the better.
Walthamstowfox said:
"Reasoned view!!"
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Exactly, not just believing any old guff that is dressed up as some sort of political answer or to pander to some peoples entrenched views.

Intersectionality is behind pretty much everything that is violent, racist and divisive in the modern western world. It is designed that way with the intention of destroying capitalism and with it western democratic society.

My 'reasoned view'.
 
AFCDorset said:
Intersectionality is behind pretty much everything that is violent, racist and divisive in the modern western world.
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That's because those that would prefer to 'keep to their own kind' (usually never explained further because it would out them as a racist), or prefer a system where equality for those of a different skin colour/background is not permitted, get in a huff about the wrongs of what they think.
 
Mistryman said:
That's because those that would prefer to 'keep to their own kind' (usually never explained further because it would out them as a racist), or prefer a system where equality for those of a different skin colour/background is not permitted, get in a huff about the wrongs of what they think.
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That Mistryman is just absurd.

Intersectionality in this context is all about divisiveness, it is deliberately set up to cause friction between different groups by fostering a sense of grievance, one group to the next. It deliberately demonises one group at the expense of another depending on their particular level of victimhood.

If you can not see that then you are not paying attention.
 
AFCDorset said:
That Mistryman is just absurd.

Intersectionality in this context is all about divisiveness, it is deliberately set up to cause friction between different groups by fostering a sense of grievance, one group to the next. It deliberately demonises one group at the expense of another depending on their particular level of victimhood.

If you can not see that then you are not paying attention.
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Interesting interpretation of the word. It's the same sort of interpretation one might expect from someone who's a bit right-wing, where they themselves fell victimised because they don't like their comfortable position being chipped away.

I prefer:
It was coined in 1989 by professor Kimberlé Crenshaw to describe how race, class, gender, and other individual characteristics “intersect” with one another and overlap. “Intersectionality” has, in a sense, gone viral over the past half-decade, resulting in a backlash from the right.

And - an analytical framework for understanding how aspects of a person's social and political identities combine to create different modes of discrimination and privilege.
 
Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
Interesting interpretation of the word. It's the same sort of interpretation one might expect from someone who's a bit right-wing, where they themselves fell victimised because they don't like their comfortable position being chipped away.

I prefer:
It was coined in 1989 by professor Kimberlé Crenshaw to describe how race, class, gender, and other individual characteristics “intersect” with one another and overlap. “Intersectionality” has, in a sense, gone viral over the past half-decade, resulting in a backlash from the right.

And - an analytical framework for understanding how aspects of a person's social and political identities combine to create different modes of discrimination and privilege.
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Nothing at all wrong with the definition Club book.

It is of course how it has been 'weaponised' as identity politics that is the issue. Anything and everything that happens to one group is the fault of another group depending upon their positions in the hierarchy.

I am not a philosopher, nor am I widely read on the theory of such matters, I simply base my views on what I see going on around me, other peoples views may be different, that does not trouble me in the least. What does trouble me is the requirement that I share those views.
 
AFCDorset said:
It is of course how it has been 'weaponised' as identity politics that is the issue. Anything and everything that happens to one group is the fault of another group depending upon their positions in the hierarchy.
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To say it's been 'weaponised', suggests it's wrong that certain groups may have needed to take more extreme measures to further highlight their issue. I'd love to live in a world where simple, peaceful protest leads to those at the top of the hierarchy to take stock & instigate measures leading to a more level playing field.

Unfortunately, a cursory look at a history book suggests those at the top of the hierarchy would actually prefer to castigate & punish those protesting further still - that's where the second half of your quote is spot on.
 
Mistryman. It is wrong, primarily because it does not address the issues, it makes no attempt at a level playing field, just promotes whatever group or cause is favoured at the time.

Once again I feel that I have to make the obvious point, do not believe what is said, believe what is done.

Look around you, you are not blind you can see what is happening but will not recognise it as it is contrary to your belief, the hierarchy stomps on everyone bar the very rich, some people deal with it better than others.
 
AFCDorset said:
It is wrong, primarily because it does not address the issues, it makes no attempt at a level playing field, just promotes whatever group or cause is favoured at the time.
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This make no sense - how else does a cause get to the forefront then? Does someone within the hierarchy inexplicably gain a conscience as a result of a peaceful protest or a politely-written 'we the undersigned' letter & think "That group makes a good point - let's help them"?


AFCDorset said:
Once again I feel that I have to make the obvious point, do not believe what is said, believe what is done.
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This makes no sense either. Said by whom? Done by whom?

AFCDorset said:
the hierarchy stomps on everyone bar the very rich, some people deal with it better than others.
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So the oppressed / undermined / disadvantaged should just shrug their shoulders & think 'Ah well, doff my cap to the hierarchy, accept my lot, be thankful for what (little) I have & just get on with it'?
 
Club_B00k_Crutchless said:
So you think they hate us all equally? You say you base your views on what you see going on around you but I suspect you aren't looking very far.
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I don't think it is hate, more a sort of distain. The fact that some groups do better than others is of no interest to them.
hackneyfox said:
For an allegedly ex leftie street fighter you’ve moved an awful long way in 45 years.
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Actually not true Hackney, it is the lefts steady march to authoritarianism and its ghastly endorsement of identity politics that has left me behind. I still very much believe in equality which is why I hold everyone to the same standards.
 
Mistryman said:
This make no sense - how else does a cause get to the forefront then? Does someone within the hierarchy inexplicably gain a conscience as a result of a peaceful protest or a politely-written 'we the undersigned' letter & think "That group makes a good point - let's help them"?

This makes no sense either. Said by whom? Done by whom?

So the oppressed / undermined / disadvantaged should just shrug their shoulders & think 'Ah well, doff my cap to the hierarchy, accept my lot, be thankful for what (little) I have & just get on with it'?
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Politicians and activists of all persuasions, do what we say, not as we do.

I do not much go for causes, most political activism leaves me unmoved. A hierarchy will always exist in a society where we have freedom of choice and equality of opportunity.

In such a society the people and who do well are those that are prepared to work and make the right choices. Work ethic, self help, conscientiousness, decency and family values are the things that count. Playing the victim does not.
 
AFCDorset said:
it is the lefts steady march to authoritarianism
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As opposed to the Tories (since you don't consider to be the 'right') Bolt-esque sprint towards the current authoritarianism?!

AFCDorset said:
Work ethic, self help, conscientiousness, decency and family values are the things that count. Playing the victim does not.
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Doing all those things & finding yourself still as the victim, the oppressed or the blamed must be a right bitch then. As worthy & noble as your magic formula is, unfortunately, it doesn't work for everyone.
 
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