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Harwichfox said:
Does anyone remember the cod wars when we were stealing fish off Iceland?

Err the French have a bigger navy than our piddling one the tories have destroyed over the last decade
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Navy spending as been in decline virtually year on year since 1952. The last few Tory years have been very similar to the Blair/ Brown governments.
 
You guys need to watch Brexit unlocked on youtube it will put your minds at rest abouta future no deal Brexit. Do not listen to main street media or you will all slit your throats. These guys are all ex MEPS and one MP so they know what there talking about.
 
Those with left of centre views have been criticising defence spending for years but now they’re saying it’s not enough
 
HughJanus said:
Those with left of centre views have been criticising defence spending for years but now they’re saying it’s not enough
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more upset with those that are saying we should not use the Navy, Surly that is what we have a navy for ,to protect our waters. It can turn a few migrant boats around to while its at it? Sorry wont call you surly again.
 
Ann Widdicombe and the traitor Farage are ex MEPs and they are ignorance personified. Oddly I prefer to listen to the leaders in Food suppliers , border agency , car manufacturers ,road hauliers. scientific and medical researchers , farmers , security forces rather than blowhard politicians .
 
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Foxgolfer said:
Ann Widdicombe and the traitor Farage are ex MEPs and they are ignorance personified. Oddly I prefer to listen to the leaders in Food suppliers , border agency , car manufacturers ,road hauliers. scientific and medical researchers , farmers , security forces rather than blowhard politicians .
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Then watch it there all on there
 
If you’re referring to that twat from Tesco he’d get far more respect if he’d said we’ll have to import food from the rest of the world if the French act like cunts.
Border agencies are just trying to avoid work, road hauliers don’t know what’s happening next so their opinion is based on guess work. Car manufacturers won’t be able keep up with demand if we stop importing foreign built cars, farmers won’t have any competition from Europe and they’ve been promised government support unlike all other industries and as for scientists- one word COVID
 
I should have added. people who think they are experts in every field imaginable posting utter g arbage on social media .
 
No . I have no idea about, for instance , Road Haulage costs or HGV licenses in the EU or WTO rules which is why I listen to folks who run road haulage companies and the Head of The WTO rather than Nigel Farage or Andrea Leadsom .
See the point now ?
 
Foxgolfer said:
No . I have no idea about, for instance , Road Haulage costs or HGV licenses in the EU or WTO rules which is why I listen to folks who run road haulage companies and the Head of The WTO rather than Nigel Farage or Andrea Leadsom .
See the point now ?
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No
 
Foxgolfer said:
No . I have no idea about, for instance , Road Haulage costs or HGV licenses in the EU or WTO rules which is why I listen to folks who run road haulage companies and the Head of The WTO rather than Nigel Farage or Andrea Leadsom .
See the point now ?
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unless you listen to the other points of view how can you come to an opinion, there are no winners or losers we are in this together to make the best of the UK.
 
How can you have a valid point of view without knowing the facts to back it up ? I can say the earth is flat but it doesn’t change the fact it’s not . And that is the whole problem with Brexit .
That’s why THe Beeb had much to answer for . For example .
The former Head of The WtO - he ran the bloody thing for years was on Newsnight . He explained in great detail why WTO rules were not good for u.k. . They then wheeled out Andrea bloody Leadsom to “ balance “ it as if her knowledge of the workings of The WTO was equivalent .
Last week the CEO of a huge road haulage firm in Dover was interviewed and was clearly stating just how bad things would be with no deal for our freight industry . They then go to Peter Bone Brexiter Tory MP for wellingborough as if he knew a flying fart about lt!
 
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It's called balance. You have to have someone come along to say it is 30 degrees and sunny even if you can all see it is raining.

Besides, who needs experts?
 
Foxgolfer said:
How can you have a valid point of view without knowing the facts .l to back it up ? I can say the earth is flat but it doesn’t change the fact it’s not . And that is the whole problem with Brexit .
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Well if you do your research you can get the facts, Watch Brexit unlocked for a start
 
Running Fox said:
unless you listen to the other points of view how can you come to an opinion, there are no winners or losers we are in this together to make the best of the UK.
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He wouldn't know mate, he licks the EU flag . If his grand or great grandfather's fought in the trenches they would disown him.
 
Brauny said:
He wouldn't know mate, he licks the EU flag . If his grand or great grandfather's fought in the trenches they would disown him.
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It really hasn’t got anything to do with WW1 you silly old man. Incidentally we left the EU 11 months ago . Keep up
 
Brauny said:
Inaccurate again I'm not old.
Point being try supporting your country you unpatriotic idiot
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I am .I want it to prosper . That’s the point of patriotism ! jeez.
As for your ridiculous invocation of war . I think living peacefully with neighbours rather than young men ripping each other apart in their thousands in trenches and on beaches is probably a preferable state of affairs . Churchill would be horrified by the state of this shitshow. Getting behind your country doesn’t mean supporting whatever nonsense a few right wing conservative MPs and a handful of newspaper proprietors who don’t live or pay tax on the U.K. tell me to .
 
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HughJanus said:
If the WTO rules are such a problem how come we trade with the rest of the world without issue?
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No other country in the world is stupid enough to trade in WTO rules if they can make free trade deals . We are certainly the only one ever silly enough to walk away from one for more restrictive and expensive rules
 
Foxgolfer said:
No other country in the world is stupid enough to trade in WTO rules if they can make free trade deals . We are certainly the only one ever silly enough to walk away from one for more restrictive and expensive rules
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We import 100 Billion pounds more than we export to the EU, so we will actually make money on imports. Some things will be cheaper after Brexit because VAT wont apply. duty on most things is around 3% so not a problem unless its a car or something. Point is we can shop around the whole world now for a bargain. Stop fearing something different embrace it and use it to your advantage.
 
UK imports from the EU were £374 billion (52% of all UK imports). ... The UK had an overall trade deficit of -£79 billion with the EU in 2019. A surplus of £18 billion on trade in services was outweighed by a deficit of -£97 billion on trade in goods.
 
Foxgolfer said:
I am .I want it to prosper . That’s the point of patriotism ! jeez.
As for your ridiculous invocation of war . I think living peacefully with neighbours rather than young men ripping each other apart in their thousands in trenches and on beaches is probably a preferable state of affairs . Churchill would be horrified by the state of this shitshow. Getting behind your country doesn’t mean supporting whatever nonsense a few right wing conservative MPs and a handful of newspaper proprietors who don’t live or pay tax on the U.K. tell me to .
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Nobody is asking you to back right wing MP's . In case you didn't notice 5 million traditional Labour voters voted for brexit. Just support your country through thick and thin, whether we mistakes or not.
The likes of France are no friends of ours they have wanted to screw us for hundreds of years, and Germany are only it for Germany.
 
Extreme example but Imagine you were German in 1933 . Hitler gets elected . Your Jewish neighbours disappear . You see what’s happening around you and are bright enough to be appalled . Do you support your country ? Always a question worth asking
 
What ludicrous know it alls we get on here. One thing I know for certain, (get the irony 'big heads'?), is that nothing is for certain. Nothing is forever either. WTO is forever? This difficulty, that problem is forever?
The amount of times I've heard experts predict the exact opposite of what actually turned out to be... And given time, how amazing it is to see the unexpected arrive. Time/Life is full of ironic twists.
Yes, it could all turn to rat shit. (I hope not.)
Yes, it may turn out much better than lot's of people expected. (I hope so.)
But fuck me, listen to the Golfclubber and his Sardinian 'like-aholic' licking his arse. :D
Yes, I know darlings... You like to think that you KNOW, and you like telling everyone...
 
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