Boeing 737 Max cleared to fly

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Sorted out the MCAS problem but:
There will also be a change unrelated to MCAS, to counter a separate potential hazard found during the FAA’s review of the 737 Max design. Two sets of wiring for controls at the rear of the aircraft, including the horizontal stabiliser, were found to be too close together, in breach of FAA rules.

These wires will have to be rerouted, to prevent a possible short-circuit causing the stabiliser to move on its own, potentially causing a crash – although the risks of that happening are understood to be very remote, and Boeing resisted the change.

The revised design is the result of a huge engineering effort, which has included some 1,300 test flights. The FAA has estimated the cost of carrying out the changes at more than $1m (£754,000) for each aircraft that needs to be modified.

Sounds as if the engine is too big for the body of the plane.

Not sure I'll be rushing to jump on a 737 max anytime soon, Covid or no Covid.

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'Boeing played Russian roulette with people’s lives'

After being grounded for more than a year and a half, Boeing’s 737 Max has been cleared to fly once again. Boeing insists it has learned hard lessons from two deadly crashes - but families of the victims say unanswered questions remain.
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How do you know when you book your holiday on Expedia.com what sort of plane you will be put on?
I select an airline like Easyjet or BA or Jet2. I don't think I am able to specify what plane it will be.
 
You can't specify which plane, but you can find it out.
I'll have a rootle through my travel bookmarks and stuff, and let you know. Reckon I've got a few months...
 
Well, you can try a first check via www.airfleets.net, to see if an airline flies any Max planes...

BA tell you the plane right at the start of making a booking under 'flight details'. I think easyjet do the same...
 
Say I book my holiday 3 months in advance. The airline will have a variety of planes in their fleet. And which plane flies which route can change all the time.
I've flown out on one type of plane and sometimes the return journey is on a different type - often due to refuelling issues or mechanical issues or staffing issues.
What am I going to do? Refuse to board and stay marooned in the departure lounge of Arrecife Airport with a load of pissed up Poles who haven't yet mastered the art of having a shit in the public toilets without wiping it all over the faacking seat, walls and door handles???
I'd sooner take my chances on the 737 thanks.
 
Sohofox said:
Say I book my holiday 3 months in advance. The airline will have a variety of planes in their fleet. And which plane flies which route can change all the time.
I've flown out on one type of plane and sometimes the return journey is on a different type - often due to refuelling issues or mechanical issues or staffing issues.
What am I going to do? Refuse to board and stay marooned in the departure lounge of Arrecife Airport with a load of pissed up Poles who haven't yet mastered the art of having a shit in the public toilets without wiping it all over the faacking seat, walls and door handles???
I'd sooner take my chances on the 737 thanks.
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Of course return legs can be on different plane types to the outward legs! That's why they provide plane details for each individual flight. But of course the plans can change at very short notice if there's mechanical issues – I used to find it slightly unsettling when you got on board only to find it was a weird old charter plane with no branding anywhere. But airlines try to plan everything in minute detail months ahead, or certainly used to when I worked for BA and / or flew a lot.

Have you thought of choosing destinations with less cheap people sharing the airports?
 
Filbo65 said:
Of course return legs can be on different plane types to the outward legs! That's why they provide plane details for each individual flight. But of course the plans can change at very short notice if there's mechanical issues – I used to find it slightly unsettling when you got on board only to find it was a weird old charter plane with no branding anywhere. But airlines try to plan everything in minute detail months ahead, or certainly used to when I worked for BA and / or flew a lot.

Have you thought of choosing destinations with less cheap people sharing the airports?
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Like where?
 
Ryanair, you know with the so called patriotic owner has a fleet comprising only of Boeing 737s, though not all of the new max design. The older 737 800 will be replaced with the new max design, which are on order.

Should have ordered the A320/1.
 
As an ex BA employee of 40 years Filbo is correct. It will generally state the type of aircraft but not the variant. Eg. Ryanair as stated will say 737. Not which one necessarily.
The Max has been a mess from the start mainly because Boeing deciding the first crash of an Indonesian low cost carrier was probably the pilots fault. ( couldn’t possibly be our problem). They initially made similar accusations when the Ethiopian one crashed but quickly realised there was a more serious problem. Sadly, and I mean this seriously, I somehow think the Max would have been grounded after the first accident if it would have involved an American carrier. Between Boeing and the American FAA, there was a fudge because of the huge amounts of money involved now.
Safe now? More than likely as, like in the past after accidents, the problems are looked into and dealt with. Shame it didn’t happen after the Lion Air crash.
On a separate note this pandemic has IMO separated the men from the boys in the airline world when it comes to refunds and what you’re entitled to by law. Unsurprisingly Mr O’Gobby’s company has gone to even lower levels than before by refusing anyone booked in November a refund instead offering only vouchers.
I’m not defending BA or other airlines but I’ve always said with Ryanair that if it goes ok they’re ok. If it goes wrong you’re on your own.
 
I really don't think the airline industry is ever going to recover to pre-pandemic levels.
There are going to be a lot more pilots looking for jobs doing home deliveries for Iceland and Ocado who will never get back in the air.
 
Sohofox said:
I really don't think the airline industry is ever going to recover to pre-pandemic levels.
There are going to be a lot more pilots looking for jobs doing home deliveries for Iceland and Ocado who will never get back in the air.
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It’s going to take years. You’re right. But it will recover. At least now we won’t see a 3rd runway at Heathrow in our lifetime.
 
well BA haven't exactly covered themselves in glory, tricking people into accepting vouchers rather than refunds....
 
LGFOX said:
It’s going to take years. You’re right. But it will recover. At least now we won’t see a 3rd runway at Heathrow in our lifetime.
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Its becoming much more politically incorrect to even think of all this travelling thousands of miles for holidays or business meetings.
All this pressure to reduce CO2 and greenhouse gasses is gaining momentum.
 
Think the majority were sober on the flights out, didn't spot that many drinking on the way out to Bruges. Probably a good thing bearing in mind that their weakest beer was Wife Beater.
 
Think that the novelty of being restricted to your own countries will wear off sooner than you think. Airlines will go bust for sure but plenty of aircraft available for the new start ups and plenty of crew available for knock down rates. People have very short memories.
 
Brendfan said:
Think that the novelty of being restricted to your own countries will wear off sooner than you think. Airlines will go bust for sure but plenty of aircraft available for the new start ups and plenty of crew available for knock down rates. People have very short memories.
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How fantastic, 'crew available for knock down prices', what a future we have in store if people just accept this.
 
Brendfan said:
Think that the novelty of being restricted to your own countries will wear off sooner than you think. Airlines will go bust for sure but plenty of aircraft available for the new start ups and plenty of crew available for knock down rates. People have very short memories.
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Phew. Thankfully I’ve retired Hackney!!
 
We all normally have a choice about whether we want to fly or not and to a certain extent the airline (depending on the route and inconvenience factor). Airlines have had a problem for years with unions. Current situation is a perfect situation for airlines to open up to non unionised contract staff. It has been going on for some years already. No view on this just stating the situation.
 
Brendfan said:
We all normally have a choice about whether we want to fly or not and to a certain extent the airline (depending on the route and inconvenience factor). Airlines have had a problem for years with unions. Current situation is a perfect situation for airlines to open up to non unionised contract staff. It has been going on for some years already. No view on this just stating the situation.
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Obviously more a problem when Leicester City are playing away in some godforsaken part of the UEFA’s map of Europe that only certain airlines fly to. Not an issue this year!
 
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