Big Nige

Brauny said:
In what way did he sell UKIP down the river ?
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Pulled candidates out of seats against the tories and gave his oppo Boris a free run at running the country.
Some of my friends wanted to vote for Ukip and were pissed off about the way he arbitrarily decided to gift it to Boris.
We need radical change in this country, but not him
 
Mistryman said:
The way in which the eye-watering sums of PPE equipment money was fast-tracked into the pockets of Tory mates should have been enough to make people’s blood boil.

But no, it was someone’s Apple headphones they claimed for, that got people more outraged about - I get it something at that price level is more relatable, but if people can’t see what those huge sums of money have deprived the population of, perhaps they are beyond help?
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I see, it's Tory corruption. They are, and have been, disgusting. Both parties over the years.

How do you feel about huge sums of public money being fast tracked into death? Into ally's and arms manufacturers' pockets? In most cases, an endless succession of war and conflict that could have been avoided.
 
George Ferris said:
Pulled candidates out of seats against the tories and gave his oppo Boris a free run at running the country.
Some of my friends wanted to vote for Ukip and were pissed off about the way he arbitrarily decided to gift it to Boris.
We need radical change in this country
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Hard to disagree with that George.
 
George Ferris said:
Pulled candidates out of seats against the tories and gave his oppo Boris a free run at running the country.
Some of my friends wanted to vote for Ukip and were pissed off about the way he arbitrarily decided to gift it to Boris.
We need radical change in this country, but not him
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Also understand there were a fair-few candidates totally pissed off that had put significant sums of their own income for leafleting & campaigning etc expecting to be compensated one way or the other (which I also understand is the norm), but were left adrift because of Farage's decision.

Man of the people, that Farage.
 
blackthorn8 said:
There are quite a few people in this world who will take advantage of any situation that's open to abuse.
You seem to have a dislike of wealth and the famous
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No, I have a dislike of frauds, bullshitters & the brazenly corrupt. I'd hope everyone else does too.
 
RegiRoka said:
I see, it's Tory corruption. They are, and have been, disgusting. Both parties over the years.

How do you feel about huge sums of public money being fast tracked into death? Into ally's and arms manufacturers' pockets? In most cases, an endless succession of war and conflict that could have been avoided.
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Without knowing the exact ins & outs of what you mention, I couldn't possibly comment - like anyone else, there's only so much brain space available for things like this, when we've all got day-to-day lives to lead too.

My hope is that there is some committee or similar set-up soon, to clawback the millions (billions?) that paid for poorly-made equipment, & where it's unquestionable that fast-track favouritism took place.
 
Mistryman said:
Without knowing the exact ins & outs of what you mention, I couldn't possibly comment - like anyone else, there's only so much brain space available for things like this, when we've all got day-to-day lives to lead too.

My hope is that there is some committee or similar set-up soon, to clawback the millions (billions?) that paid for poorly-made equipment, & where it's unquestionable that fast-track favouritism took place.
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Well, thanks for being honest.
 
I liked Nick Clegg's bullshit best. Fucked over the students then toddled off to California to be head of comms for a dreadful social media company.
 
Harwichfox said:
Now he's supporting putin and saying Russia had to defend itself from Nato and EU aggression which is no surprise.
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Except he's not actually supporting Putin is he ?

If you think or believe that, then you've been taken in by the usual anti Farage MSM channels who never waste an opportunity to discredit him.
They haven't forgiven him for Brexit, so they'll rarely report anything positive about him, but they will squeal when they can.

Regarding his comments.
Farage stated that by expanding eastward, the EU and NATO had given Putin the perfect opportunity to tell his suppressed people that Russia was being threatened by the west.
This was his green light to unleash his plan that had been simmering in Putin ever since the breakup of the USSR.
Putin holds a deep grudge about the breakup of the USSR. Putin saw that as a humiliation for Russia.
So this is the moment he's waited a long time for and wants to flex Russia's muscles and restore the Motherland to ' greatness'
Farage basically said that the EU and NATO have played into Putin's hands.

Farage has already said that he doesn't like Putin as a person.
On the war itself Farage said...

' Putin was to blame for the war and that it's immoral, outrageous and indefensible '

So I'm not sure where it can be viewed as Farage supporting Putin.
 
Brauny said:
Except he's not actually supporting Putin is he ?

If you think or believe that, then you've been taken in by the usual anti Farage MSM channels who never waste an opportunity to discredit him.
They haven't forgiven him for Brexit, so they'll rarely report anything positive about him, but they will squeal when they can.

Regarding his comments.
Farage stated that by expanding eastward, the EU and NATO had given Putin the perfect opportunity to tell his suppressed people that Russia was being threatened by the west.
This was his green light to unleash his plan that had been simmering in Putin ever since the breakup of the USSR.
Putin holds a deep grudge about the breakup of the USSR. Putin saw that as a humiliation for Russia.
So this is the moment he's waited a long time for and wants to flex Russia's muscles and restore the Motherland to ' greatness'
Farage basically said that the EU and NATO have played into Putin's hands.

Farage has already said that he doesn't like Putin as a person.
On the war itself Farage said...

' Putin was to blame for the war and that it's immoral, outrageous and indefensible '

So I'm not sure where it can be viewed as Farage supporting Putin.
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Headlines that appeal to someone's prejudice, will always be consumed with more enjoyment than the truth.
Apparently, the Tory PM is also in agreement with Harwichfox.
RocknRoll. 👍
 
Brauny said:
Except he's not actually supporting Putin is he ?

If you think or believe that, then you've been taken in by the usual anti Farage MSM channels who never waste an opportunity to discredit him.
They haven't forgiven him for Brexit, so they'll rarely report anything positive about him, but they will squeal when they can.

Regarding his comments.
Farage stated that by expanding eastward, the EU and NATO had given Putin the perfect opportunity to tell his suppressed people that Russia was being threatened by the west.
This was his green light to unleash his plan that had been simmering in Putin ever since the breakup of the USSR.
Putin holds a deep grudge about the breakup of the USSR. Putin saw that as a humiliation for Russia.
So this is the moment he's waited a long time for and wants to flex Russia's muscles and restore the Motherland to ' greatness'
Farage basically said that the EU and NATO have played into Putin's hands.

Farage has already said that he doesn't like Putin as a person.
On the war itself Farage said...

' Putin was to blame for the war and that it's immoral, outrageous and indefensible '

So I'm not sure where it can be viewed as Farage supporting Putin.
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Blames EVERYTHING on immigration.

Shades of the past.
 
Brauny said:
Except he's not actually supporting Putin is he ?

If you think or believe that, then you've been taken in by the usual anti Farage MSM channels who never waste an opportunity to discredit him.
They haven't forgiven him for Brexit, so they'll rarely report anything positive about him, but they will squeal when they can.

Regarding his comments.
Farage stated that by expanding eastward, the EU and NATO had given Putin the perfect opportunity to tell his suppressed people that Russia was being threatened by the west.
This was his green light to unleash his plan that had been simmering in Putin ever since the breakup of the USSR.
Putin holds a deep grudge about the breakup of the USSR. Putin saw that as a humiliation for Russia.
So this is the moment he's waited a long time for and wants to flex Russia's muscles and restore the Motherland to ' greatness'
Farage basically said that the EU and NATO have played into Putin's hands.

Farage has already said that he doesn't like Putin as a person.
On the war itself Farage said...

' Putin was to blame for the war and that it's immoral, outrageous and indefensible '

So I'm not sure where it can be viewed as Farage supporting Putin.
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NATO expansion is decided by sovereign nations CHOOSING to join the alliance. Farage built his entire schtick on nation's being sovereign and making their own choices (for example: to leave a trade alliance in 2016). He's not a coherent thinker.


I wouldn't feel safe with farage in charge of our armed forces (specially given his history of taking the RT rubles...or his previously stated admiration of putin)
Similar to how I'd have felt with Corbyn in charge of them.
 
Adumass said:
NATO expansion is decided by sovereign nations CHOOSING to join the alliance.
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That's a little naive, don't you think?
States east of NATO decide how, where and when the group expands?
You obviously know that current NATO members have a say in who joins. The US mainly driving it.
(I mean, it's widely stated that Russia, a sovereign nation, asked to join, but was rejected.).
 
Adumass said:
NATO expansion is decided by sovereign nations CHOOSING to join the alliance. Farage built his entire schtick on nation's being sovereign and making their own choices (for example: to leave a trade alliance in 2016). He's not a coherent thinker.


I wouldn't feel safe with farage in charge of our armed forces (specially given his history of taking the RT rubles...or his previously stated admiration of putin)
Similar to how I'd have felt with Corbyn in charge of them.
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Farage pointed out 10 years ago about this issue.

Nobody listened
 
He's up Putins arse like his mate Donny not heard him criticise the invasion yet or Putins assassins murdering that British woman wheres his patriotism now, even his teachers at his posh public school said he was fascist.
 
RegiRoka said:
That's a little naive, don't you think?
States east of NATO decide how, where and when the group expands?
You obviously know that current NATO members have a say in who joins. The US mainly driving it.
(I mean, it's widely stated that Russia, a sovereign nation, asked to join, but was rejected.)
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No I don't think my statement is naive. I'm not blind to the politics and implications.

Maybe I should have said "choose to apply to join" rather than "choose to join". They are absolutely free to choose, was my point.

Of course there are gatekeepers, that's how clubs work. You focused on why the gatekeepers didn't turn them down, I focused on why those applying felt the need for additional security.

But my main point, for this thread, was that farage had spent his entire political career saying Britain (actually, England) should be sovereign, but he's now saying other nations shouldn't. I find him incoherent.
I see the man as a danger to this country, not just on security, but more so on his lack of plans for ALL other facets of life. Education. Health. Housing. Economy. Etc etc. He couldn't even be arsed to write a manifesto cos his thinking extends to the back of his fag packet. and that is much more dangerous to us as a country than anything external.
 
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